Re: Arguments for inline PGP

2005-08-10 Thread Alphax
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Michael Daigle wrote: snip It's unfortunate, but it's prevalent - and that's why inlined PGP is a good thing. We can still retain message authentication despite the goof-ball between us and the recipient. Quite often, the goof-ball *is* the

Re: Arguments for inline PGP

2005-08-10 Thread Alphax
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Chris De Young wrote: Maybe there are a few who wonder enough what it is you're sending them to go figure it out; if so, that's a win, but I doubt it happens very often. :) Don't underestimate it. I saw Using Enigmail with Thunderbird and

Re: Arguments for inline PGP (was: Leave clearsigned content encoding alone, how?)

2005-08-09 Thread Chris De Young
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 01:45:02AM -, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: Just say no to inline PGP! Some reasons I use inline: * My email has a much better chance of reaching people whose systems bounce (or discard!) attachments. Are there really a lot of such systems? I've encountered

Re: Arguments for inline PGP

2005-08-09 Thread Thomas Kuehne
Chris De Young schrieb: On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 01:45:02AM -, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: Just say no to inline PGP! Some reasons I use inline: snip I see your points, but in my opinion they aren't worth giving up the benefits of MIME -- especially in what one hopes will be a

Re: Arguments for inline PGP

2005-08-09 Thread David Srbecky
Thomas Kuehne wrote: Alphax schrieb: Thomas Kuehne wrote: Points taken - Have you ever looked at an signed (using MIME) message in OutlookExpress? RRR . Sorry, I've never used Lookout. The attachment is a snapshoot of David Srbecky's recent MIME signed post Re: Extra

Re: Arguments for inline PGP

2005-08-09 Thread Werner Koch
On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 13:43:40 +0200, Thomas Kuehne said: OutlookExpress displays the message just like Mozilla or KMail without encryption plugins. Use a MIME compliant MUA and not such a spam/DoS/virus vector. Shalom-Salam, Werner ___

Re: Arguments for inline PGP (was: Leave clearsigned content encoding alone, how?)

2005-08-09 Thread Greg Sabino Mullane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * My email has a much better chance of reaching people whose systems bounce (or discard!) attachments. Are there really a lot of such systems? I've encountered very few that bounce messages with attachments, and if they discard attachments

Re: Arguments for inline PGP

2005-08-09 Thread Zeljko Vrba
Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: I should have said whose systems bounce (or discard!) emails with attachments. I can say that I've worked in such company. Oddly enough, the server seemed to strip only the application/pgp, or whatever the MIME type is, replacing it with some bogus MS-TNEF

Re: Arguments for inline PGP

2005-08-09 Thread Michael Daigle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 In reply to Greg Sabino Mullane's message sent 2005-08-09 11:26: * My email has a much better chance of reaching people whose systems bounce (or discard!) attachments. Are there really a lot of such systems? I've encountered very few

Re: Arguments for inline PGP

2005-08-09 Thread Thomas Kuehne
David Srbecky schrieb: Thomas Kuehne wrote: Alphax schrieb: Thomas Kuehne wrote: Points taken - Have you ever looked at an signed (using MIME) message in OutlookExpress? RRR . Sorry, I've never used Lookout. The attachment is a snapshoot of David Srbecky's recent

Re: Arguments for inline PGP

2005-08-09 Thread Johan Wevers
David Srbecky wrote: I do not use inline because I find the extra stuff annoying. However, MIME can look really nasty too. That's I would prefer to save the signature in the mail headers. That would be easy to do in a X-PGP-Signature header or something similar. The X- headers are free to use

Arguments for inline PGP (was: Leave clearsigned content encoding alone, how?)

2005-08-08 Thread Greg Sabino Mullane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just say no to inline PGP! Some reasons I use inline: * My email has a much better chance of reaching people whose systems bounce (or discard!) attachments. * It is easy to transfer my message to another format (such as a webpage) while keeping