Re: Dan Brown - Digital Fortress book

2009-01-18 Thread John W. Moore III
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Faramir wrote: Charly Avital escribió: Hi, may I suggest, with all due respect, that this thread be closed? Why don't we move this thread to pgp-basics...@yahoogroups.com ? I Second both of the above Motions. JOHN 8-) Timestamp: Sunday

Re: Dan Brown - Digital Fortress book

2009-01-17 Thread Simon Ward
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:15:47AM -0500, Charly Avital wrote: Some excerpts from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Fortress. I believe the following list of Mr. Brown's errors (or delusions) is not exclusive, to say the least. … * Characters who are supposedly experts in cryptography

Re: Dan Brown - Digital Fortress book

2009-01-17 Thread Charly Avital
Hi, may I suggest, with all due respect, that this thread be closed? Thanks, Charly ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users

Re: Dan Brown - Digital Fortress book

2009-01-16 Thread Mark H. Wood
[Freon decomposition products include phosgene] Well, it's a tangled mess. There are many different chemicals which have been sold under the Freon name. Mr. Brown may have confused any of these with Halon, another large family of fluorocarbons which *have* been used for fire suppression,

Re: Dan Brown - Digital Fortress book

2009-01-16 Thread Robert J. Hansen
Mark H. Wood wrote: Well, it's a tangled mess. There are many different chemicals which have been sold under the Freon name. Mr. Brown may have confused any of these with Halon, another large family of fluorocarbons which *have* been used for fire suppression, including data centers. Right.

Re: Dan Brown - Digital Fortress book

2009-01-16 Thread Julian Stacey
Hi gnupg-users@, Speculting what Dan Brown, novelist to the masses, might have meant re. Freon is outside list remit. Better discussed tonight at the Friday bars of your choice :-) Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSDUnixLinux C Prog Admin SysEng Consult Munich www.berklix.com Mail plain ASCII

Re: Dan Brown - Digital Fortress book

2009-01-15 Thread markus reichelt
* Robert J. Hansen r...@sixdemonbag.org wrote: When Freon catches fire it decomposes into phosgene, a nerve gas, which makes it kind of hard to fight the fire. In the book, a fire ravages the datacenter and yet somehow people in it aren't dead from phosgene exposure. Phosgene is not a nerve

Re: Dan Brown - Digital Fortress book

2009-01-15 Thread Robert J. Hansen
markus reichelt wrote: Not all Freon would be converted into Phosgene and I'd guess the firefighters wore gas masks thus limiting the exposure (they know about the Freon?) First responders -- the people in the office who rush to the fire armed with fire extinguishers -- don't wear respiratory

Re: Dan Brown - Digital Fortress book

2009-01-15 Thread David Shaw
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 09:52:00AM -0500, Robert J. Hansen wrote: markus reichelt wrote: Not all Freon would be converted into Phosgene and I'd guess the firefighters wore gas masks thus limiting the exposure (they know about the Freon?) First responders -- the people in the office who

Re: Dan Brown - Digital Fortress book

2009-01-15 Thread Robert J. Hansen
David Shaw wrote: Possibly Dan Brown used freon where he should have used halon. Possibly: it wouldn't be the first time he used terminology glibly to the point of gross error. That said, the last time I looked into Halon fire systems they were advertised as not producing thermal shock, which

Re: Dan Brown - Digital Fortress book

2009-01-15 Thread vedaal
Message: 1 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:47:58 -0500 From: Robert J. Hansen r...@sixdemonbag.org Subject: Re: Dan Brown - Digital Fortress book The TRANSLATR machine does not work and cannot work, not under the laws of physics as we know them to be. ok, granted, as well as the inaccurate crypto

Re: Dan Brown - Digital Fortress book

2009-01-15 Thread Robert J. Hansen
ved...@hush.com wrote: assuming a brute force attack is feasible in real time, how could one design a cipher that is invulnerable to brute force attack (other than an OTP )? You don't. (1) [as explained in the Digital Fortress book] what if the decryption program didn't know when it had

Re: Dan Brown - Digital Fortress book

2009-01-14 Thread Robert J. Hansen
Andre Amorim wrote: Anyone knows what's is fact (real) and what is fiction in Dan Brown novel, Digital Fortress ? The book is almost wholly fiction with the occasional bit of name-dropping thrown in to make it sound authentic. The idea of a cipher that shifts over time and thus making it

Re: Dan Brown - Digital Fortress book

2009-01-14 Thread Andre Amorim
Guys, I'm in the midle of this book rigth now, so let me try to finish it LOL... by the way... is there any other book, for a guy like me that find pleasant read about neuromancer, crypto, computers and fiction ... ??? 2009/1/14 David Shaw ds...@jabberwocky.com: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at

Re: Dan Brown - Digital Fortress book

2009-01-14 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
2009/1/14 Andre Amorim dec...@gmail.com: I'm in the midle of this book rigth now, so let me try to finish it LOL... by the way... is there any other book, for a guy like me that find pleasant read about neuromancer, crypto, computers and fiction ... I really enjoyed Cryptonomicon and Snow

Re: Dan Brown - Digital Fortress book

2009-01-14 Thread Robert J. Hansen
Andre Amorim wrote: I'm in the midle of this book rigth now, so let me try to finish it LOL... by the way... is there any other book, for a guy like me that find pleasant read about neuromancer, crypto, computers and fiction ... Off-topic, but hey, we all need to unwind and relax sometime,