Re: Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-11 Thread Todd Zullinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Atom Smasher wrote: pgp Key Signing Observations: Overlooked Social and Technical Considerations http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/121645/49/ there's a few sections in that article that might be of interest. Indeed, thank you Atom!

Re: Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-10 Thread Atom Smasher
On Thu, 6 Jul 2006, Todd Zullinger wrote: I was wondering if some folks here have detailed their challenge policies and procedures and if you'd mind sharing them if you have? Even handier would be some scripts to help in the automation of this task. ;) == pgp Key Signing

Re: Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-09 Thread Michael Kallas
Hi, Alphax schrieb: Suppose you send an email to Address W and encrypt an authentication token to Key X. You recieve a reply from Address Y, containing the authentication token, which has been signed with Key Z. This tells you that /someone/ with access to W has recieved a message;

Re: Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-09 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Sunday 09 July 2006 06:27, Alphax wrote: Michael Kallas wrote: David Shaw schrieb: I've been away on vacation and only picked up this thread now. This statement is not correct. Back in the PGP 2.x days, this might have been true, but with OpenPGP, there is no particular requirement

Re: Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-08 Thread Michael Kallas
David Shaw schrieb: I've been away on vacation and only picked up this thread now. This statement is not correct. Back in the PGP 2.x days, this might have been true, but with OpenPGP, there is no particular requirement that the ability to sign and the ability to decrypt are connected. You

Re: Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-08 Thread Alphax
Michael Kallas wrote: David Shaw schrieb: I've been away on vacation and only picked up this thread now. This statement is not correct. Back in the PGP 2.x days, this might have been true, but with OpenPGP, there is no particular requirement that the ability to sign and the ability to

Re: Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-07 Thread Ingo Klöcker
Am Freitag, 7. Juli 2006 06:31 schrieb Todd Zullinger: What I don't see in any of the links is more information about sending an email challenge before signing a key. (My apologies if I'm overlooking it on your page or any of the others.) It's been discussed here before but I've not found

Re: Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-07 Thread Marcus Frings
* Todd Zullinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I don't see in any of the links is more information about sending an email challenge before signing a key. (My apologies if I'm overlooking it on your page or any of the others.) Before I used a protocol to signing keys where I sent out random

Re: Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-07 Thread Todd Zullinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ingo Klöcker wrote: Try CA-Bot (http://cabot.alioth.debian.org/). Thanks Ingo. I haven't used it myself because I'm using a self-written script for creating challenges with KMail. Could you elaborate a little on the procedure you use to generate

Re: Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-07 Thread Todd Zullinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marcus Frings wrote: * Todd Zullinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I don't see in any of the links is more information about sending an email challenge before signing a key. (My apologies if I'm overlooking it on your page or any of the

Re: Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-07 Thread Mark Kirchner
On Friday, July 7, 2006, 11:19:47 AM, Marcus wrote: * Todd Zullinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I don't see in any of the links is more information about sending an email challenge before signing a key. (My apologies if I'm overlooking it on your page or any of the others.) Before I

Re: Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-07 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Friday 07 July 2006 16:56, Todd Zullinger wrote: Ingo Klöcker wrote: I haven't used it myself because I'm using a self-written script for creating challenges with KMail. Could you elaborate a little on the procedure you use to generate the challenges? I'd love to have some examples of

Re: Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-07 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Friday 07 July 2006 17:09, Todd Zullinger wrote: Marcus Frings wrote: * Todd Zullinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I don't see in any of the links is more information about sending an email challenge before signing a key. (My apologies if I'm overlooking it on your page or any of

Re: Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-07 Thread Todd Zullinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ingo Klöcker wrote: On Friday 07 July 2006 17:09, Todd Zullinger wrote: [...] But that does mean that you can't get a signed key to someone if the key you've signed doesn't have any encryption capabilities, correct? That's obviously correct. In

Re: Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-07 Thread David Shaw
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 11:19:47AM +0200, Marcus Frings wrote: * Todd Zullinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I don't see in any of the links is more information about sending an email challenge before signing a key. (My apologies if I'm overlooking it on your page or any of the others.)

Re: Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-07 Thread David Shaw
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 08:39:37PM +0200, Ingo Klöcker wrote: On Friday 07 July 2006 17:09, Todd Zullinger wrote: Marcus Frings wrote: * Todd Zullinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I don't see in any of the links is more information about sending an email challenge before signing a

Re: Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-07 Thread David Shaw
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 04:15:03PM -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: Ingo Klöcker wrote: On Friday 07 July 2006 17:09, Todd Zullinger wrote: [...] But that does mean that you can't get a signed key to someone if the key you've signed doesn't have any encryption capabilities, correct?

Re: Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-07 Thread Marcus Frings
* Ingo Klöcker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 07 July 2006 17:09, Todd Zullinger wrote: Have you found in practice that you don't run into many sign-only keys that you are asked to certify? Among a few hundreds keys I've signed so far only a handful were sign-only or certification-only

Re: Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-07 Thread David Shaw
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 07:22:40PM +0200, Mark Kirchner wrote: On Friday, July 7, 2006, 11:19:47 AM, Marcus wrote: * Todd Zullinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I don't see in any of the links is more information about sending an email challenge before signing a key. (My apologies if

Re: Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-07 Thread Todd Zullinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi David, David Shaw wrote: I've been away on vacation and only picked up this thread now. Hope it was relaxing. Welcome back seems like a negative thing to say. ;) This statement is not correct. Back in the PGP 2.x days, this might have been

Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-06 Thread Todd Zullinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm putting together a short talk for my local LUG as we're planning to have a keysigning party in the near future and some folks want to hear more details so they'll understand better. I was wondering if some folks here have detailed their

Re: Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-06 Thread Marcus Frings
* Todd Zullinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if some folks here have detailed their challenge policies and procedures and if you'd mind sharing them if you have? Even handier would be some scripts to help in the automation of this task. ;)

Re: Keysigning challenge policies/procedures

2006-07-06 Thread Todd Zullinger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marcus Frings wrote: * Todd Zullinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if some folks here have detailed their challenge policies and procedures and if you'd mind sharing them if you have? Even handier would be some scripts to help in the