Re: PKCS#11 support for gpg-agent

2005-09-05 Thread Werner Koch
On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 08:35:15 +0100 (BST), Nicholas Cole said: gpg-1.9, and the thinking behind adding support for s/mime. What is the roadmap (from the point of view of users) for gpg? * The most important task is to integrate gpg 1.4 code base into gpg 1.9. I did this a long time ago but

Re: PKCS#11 support for gpg-agent

2005-09-03 Thread Werner Koch
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 20:08:37 +0300, Alon Bar-Lev said: But it does not say that GPLed software cannot use PKCS#11 interface in order to access none GPLed tokens! Read the GPL again and you will see that this is not possible. I have... and did not find the place. Can you please refer me to

Re: PKCS#11 support for gpg-agent

2005-09-02 Thread Olaf Gellert
Alon Bar-Lev wrote: When PGP was invented there WAS NO standard to send and receive signed and encrypted messages, so PGP have implemented a proprietary method. Then, PGP tried to propose it as a standard... OpenPGP... But they have failed... It was not widely adopted... S/MIME was the

Re: PKCS#11 support for gpg-agent

2005-09-02 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
Hello, You are wrong in this regard: PGP is widely adpopted (and what is your definition of the world?). And it makes perfectly sense to have both worlds. I won't argue with that... But the trend is not in favor of PGP. OpenPGP offers a completely different trust model which suits the needs

Re: PKCS#11 support for gpg-agent

2005-09-02 Thread Werner Koch
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:30:29 +0300, Alon Bar-Lev said: Most pkcs#11 stuff is not GPL compatible. But it does not say that GPLed software cannot use PKCS#11 interface in order to access none GPLed tokens! Read the GPL again and you will see that this is not possible. I am sorry to read

Re: PKCS#11 support for gpg-agent

2005-09-02 Thread Werner Koch
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 18:21:06 +0300, Alon Bar-Lev said: Yes... But why? What was the reason to work so hard in adding S/MIME? The answer for my opinion is that IT IS A STANDARD!!! I am sorry to correct you. No mental sane hacker would voluntary implement X.509 stupidity. The reason why we

Re: PKCS#11 support for gpg-agent

2005-09-02 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
Thank you Olaf, I see your point regarding PKI, I am familiar with it. I want to focus the discussion for the smartcard support, this was my original issue and we then moved to a different discussion... I have a lot to say in that matter... but first I will study you documents to understand

Re: PKCS#11 support for gpg-agent

2005-08-29 Thread Werner Koch
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:01:04 +0300, Alon Bar-Lev said: The disclaimer at http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/node.asp?id=2133 states Its is not about the protocol but about the licenses incompatibility between Mozilla and GPL applications. AFAIK, not everything in Mozilla has the option to be