Re: Using other compression algos with GnuPG

2006-01-23 Thread Werner Koch
Hi! just a short note: The reason why we have compresion algorithms in OpenPGP are mainly out of tradition. On a Unix system the use of specialized tools is the way to go; e.g. gpg for encryption and bzip2 for compressing. If you want to compress your data with a different algorithm you may

Re: Using other compression algos with GnuPG

2006-01-22 Thread Johan Wevers
Ryan Malayter wrote: In any case, though, such slow-but-compact algorithms are really only useful for archival purposes. If speed isn't an issue, why would anyone prefer rar over bzip2? Bzip2 compresses much better than rar anyway, although it's slow. -- ir. J.C.A. Wevers // Physics

Re: Using other compression algos with GnuPG

2006-01-22 Thread Ryan Malayter
On 1/21/06, Johan Wevers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If speed isn't an issue, why would anyone prefer rar over bzip2? Bzip2 compresses much better than rar anyway, although it's slow. Bzip2 does not compress better than RAR or LZMA, at least with my test corpus. See

Re: Using other compression algos with GnuPG

2006-01-21 Thread Roscoe
LZMA seems to be notably[1] faster/better than BZIP2, which has made it into the standard so I wouldn't immediately rule out its suitability for OpenPGP. That said I don't much think it should be included. It could *replace* BZIP2 but replacing BZIP2 with LZMA would break backwards compatibility

Re: Using other compression algos with GnuPG

2006-01-21 Thread Alphax
Roscoe wrote: On 1/21/06, Ryan Malayter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The RAR compression algorithm proprietary and closed source, so it is not likely to make it into any standards. RARlabs has refused for years to allow anyone else to make RAR encoders (although they exist in violation of the

Re: Using other compression algos with GnuPG

2006-01-21 Thread David Shaw
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 04:49:11PM -0600, Ryan Malayter wrote: On 1/20/06, David Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's always possible for someone to add a nonstandard algorithm, but if you really want a particular algorithm, it's healthier to get the OpenPGP working group to add it

Re: Using other compression algos with GnuPG

2006-01-21 Thread David Shaw
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 11:30:15PM +1030, Alphax wrote: LZMA seems to be notably[1] faster/better than BZIP2, which has made it into the standard so I wouldn't immediately rule out its suitability for OpenPGP. How well was LZMA known when BZIP2 made it in? Why was BZIP2 included when

Re: Using other compression algos with GnuPG

2006-01-21 Thread Kurt Fitzner
David Shaw wrote: In fact, BZIP2 was added pretty much for archival purposes: http://www.imc.org/ietf-openpgp/mail-archive/msg04624.html I wouldn't be against LZMA if it was significantly better than BZIP2. My understanding of the reason behind compression in OpenPGP is that it was less to

Re: Using other compression algos with GnuPG

2006-01-21 Thread David Shaw
On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 09:22:36AM -0700, Kurt Fitzner wrote: David Shaw wrote: In fact, BZIP2 was added pretty much for archival purposes: http://www.imc.org/ietf-openpgp/mail-archive/msg04624.html I wouldn't be against LZMA if it was significantly better than BZIP2. My

Re: Using other compression algos with GnuPG

2006-01-20 Thread David Shaw
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 10:05:26PM +0530, Nicky wrote: The current version of GnuPG I have supports only three compression algorithms viz: ZIP, ZLIB and BZIP2 Is there a way to direct GnuPG to use some other algorithm besides these? for example RAR (http://rarlabs.com/)... No. GPG supports