Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-22 Thread vedaal
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:44:26 -0500 From: John Clizbe j...@enigmail.net To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org Subject: Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted Message-ID: 4e7aaf1a.1040...@enigmail.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 ved

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-22 Thread John Clizbe
ved...@nym.hush.com wrote: Thanks, I knew about the MSYS method, but not about the others, but my point was about running gnupg from a flash drive. I was under the impression that there is no portable way to do that on a flashdrive that doesn't have these systems installed on the host

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-22 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 9/22/2011 12:38 PM, John Clizbe wrote: probably be good to include msvcrt.dll as MinGW targets it. Also so that you're not depending on the host machine's MSVCRT.DLL. That .DLL is often targeted by malware: it makes such a perfect place to drop hook functions. (Putting that .DLL on the stick

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-22 Thread vedaal
John Clizbe John at enigmail.net wrote on Thu Sep 22 18:38:06 CEST 2011 : It can be done, but it's nontrivial. I think it's more like Sisyphean IMHO :-(. OK, thought so, ;-) You cannot secure everything necessary to securely run gpg (or any other program) from a USB stick. Please don't

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-22 Thread John Clizbe
ved...@nym.hush.com wrote: So, if , for example, in a case where I don't have my laptop with me, (but I do have a usb with gpg and keyrings, and a miniDVD with ubuntu), then, assuming there is no keylogger on the borrowed laptop, what is the problem with booting from the ubuntu miniDVD, and

windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-22 Thread vedaal
John Clizbe John at enigmail.net wrote on Thu Sep 22 21:20:16 CEST 2011 : You're also assuming no BIOS or UEFI rootkits :-) Whether that is or isn't a problem is up to you Can these rootkits work when there is no mbr access? I'm booting from a dvd ubuntu install disk. No root information is

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-22 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 9/22/2011 3:59 PM, ved...@nym.hush.com wrote: Can these rootkits work when there is no mbr access? Yes. In fact, EFI/UEFI is more or less a replacement for MBRs. EFI/UEFI is almost the first thing through the CPU's brain upon booting. There's probably some on-chip microcode that executes

windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-22 Thread vedaal
Robert J. Hansen rjh at sixdemonbag.org wrote on Thu Sep 22 22:07:07 CEST 2011 : The EFI/UEFI designers went to some lengths to harden the system against malware -- unfortunately they could only harden it, not immunize it. I know only very limited stuff about this, but I thought that this was

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-22 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 9/22/2011 4:51 PM, ved...@nym.hush.com wrote: I know only very limited stuff about this, but I thought that this was mainly to check that copies of windows were 'non-pirated', and has come under some criticism that they might be able to exclude some from running linux OS's ... That's

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-21 Thread Werner Koch
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:48, r...@sixdemonbag.org said: If I determine that my work PC and my home PC are both trusted systems, and I have a single USB stick containing my GnuPG installation and keyrings that I want to use on both, then I don't see the risk so long as that USB stick is never

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-21 Thread John Clizbe
ved...@nym.hush.com wrote: BTW, There is a unique advantage to running gnupg from cygwin on windows, as it's the only way to make use of unix-like commands, (cat, grep, printf, etc.) and pipe them to and from gnupg. ONLY? How much effort did you expend looking? The MinGW compiler folks

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-21 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 9/21/2011 11:44 PM, John Clizbe wrote: ONLY? How much effort did you expend looking? In addition to John's offerings, don't forget http://gnuwin32.sf.net. Most of the GNU tools exist in native Win32 builds. Some of them are a bit old (e.g., their flex is 2.5.4a, current is 2.5.34, their gawk

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-20 Thread Werner Koch
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 23:28, jpcli...@tx.rr.com said: Many tools such as autoconf have to be installed from the Interix community site. To build gnupg you don't need autoconf. A bare bones development system is always sufficient. autoconf is only used to create the configure script which is

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-20 Thread Avi
ABAA 0D62 B019 F80E 29F9 From: Werner Koch w...@gnupg.org To: Johan Wevers joh...@vulcan.xs4all.nl Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 12:06:49 +0200 Subject: Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 21:42, joh...@vulcan.xs4all.nl said: If they don't

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-20 Thread Werner Koch
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:28, avi.w...@gmail.com said: What about us windows users who do not have GPG installed on our desktops, but our secure USB sticks. 1.4.11 works very nicely as a stand-alone (or in my case, with GPGShell). I'm afraid that 2.+ would not work properly when installed to an

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-20 Thread Ingo Klöcker
On Friday 16 September 2011, Robert J. Hansen wrote: On 9/16/2011 2:49 PM, ved...@nym.hush.com wrote: Because then who is to say that it wasn't tampered with? Who's to say the one on ftp.gnupg.org wasn't tampered with? It would be fairly easy to make a version of GnuPG that always reported

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-20 Thread Robert J. Hansen
On 9/20/2011 3:23 PM, Werner Koch wrote: There is no such thing as a secure USB stick to run programs from. If I determine that my work PC and my home PC are both trusted systems, and I have a single USB stick containing my GnuPG installation and keyrings that I want to use on both, then I don't

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-20 Thread Avi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Fair enough, I was not precise, my apologies. I run GnuPG off a Truecrypt encrypted partition on a USB stick, so I can access it places where I do not wish to load my keyring, and cannot install a card reader. I find that version 1.4.11 with

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-20 Thread vedaal
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:28:34 -0400 From: Avi avi.w...@gmail.com To: gnupg-users@gnupg.org What about us windows users who do not have GPG installed on our desktops, but our secure USB sticks. 1.4.11 works very nicely as a stand-alone (or in my case, with GPGShell). However, I am

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-19 Thread Werner Koch
Hi, there is a thing for Windows called System Services for Unix (SFU). It is a modern POSIX implementation on top of the NT kernel but very different to the old we-need-to-be-compliant-to-gov-ITBs Posix subsystem. Did anyone ever tried to build a GnuPG on it? AFAICS this would use MSC but on

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-19 Thread John Clizbe
Werner Koch wrote: Hi, there is a thing for Windows called System Services for Unix (SFU). It is a modern POSIX implementation on top of the NT kernel but very different to the old we-need-to-be-compliant-to-gov-ITBs Posix subsystem. Did anyone ever tried to build a GnuPG on it? AFAICS

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-18 Thread John Clizbe
Johan Wevers wrote: On 16-09-2011 21:30, Simone Cianfriglia wrote: To achieve your desired result, it's required to run the exactly same compiler, including the version, with the same options targeting the correct architecture. Also a minor tweak in architecture settings could change the

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-17 Thread Werner Koch
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 21:42, joh...@vulcan.xs4all.nl said: OK, then what about a direct link to the version of the installer still present on ftp.gnupg.org? It was removed on purpose. We - and this includes Enigmail developers - want users to use the modern version. Those how have a valid

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-16 Thread vedaal
Compiling your own windows binary on windows (for people who never used a compiler): Reviewed the instructions, and tested them on windows 64 bit systems, and no modifications are necessary. Posted the 'How To' on Maxine Brandt's restored site, here:

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-16 Thread Johan Wevers
On 16-09-2011 17:17, ved...@nym.hush.com wrote: Posted the 'How To' on Maxine Brandt's restored site, here: http://www.angelfire.com/mb2/mbgpg2go/cyowb.html Why not also host a copy of the existing binary? -- Met vriendelijke groet, Johan Wevers

re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-16 Thread vedaal
Johan Wevers johanw at vulcan.xs4all.nl Fri Sep 16 20:28:52 CEST 2011 wrote: Why not also host a copy of the existing binary? Because then who is to say that it wasn't tampered with? The whole point is to start with gnupg.org signed and verified material, and then let the user take it from

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-16 Thread Johan Wevers
On 16-09-2011 20:49, ved...@nym.hush.com wrote: Why not also host a copy of the existing binary? Because then who is to say that it wasn't tampered with? OK, then what about a direct link to the version of the installer still present on ftp.gnupg.org? Although, [and am over my head here,

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-16 Thread Simone Cianfriglia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello veidaal and gnupg-users list. My understanding, (which may be outdated), is that there are too many variations in individual user systems, so that the compiled files would never have 'exactly' the same hash independent of where they are

re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-16 Thread vedaal
Thanks, Simone, Johan and Robert, well, there goes that idea ... (but it's nice to know, that it's *possible* if there ever were some extreme need for it) ;-) Johan, as per your excellent suggestion, the link to the ftp is hosted: http://www.angelfire.com/mb2/mbgpg2go/download.html (I'm

Re: windows binary for gnupg 1.4.11 // compilation instructions posted

2011-09-16 Thread Johan Wevers
On 16-09-2011 21:30, Simone Cianfriglia wrote: To achieve your desired result, it's required to run the exactly same compiler, including the version, with the same options targeting the correct architecture. Also a minor tweak in architecture settings could change the result, see for example