Robert J. Hansen (20.08.2008 09:12):
Bhushan Jain wrote:
I wanted to know how could the file be deleted securely using PGP?
Assuming you meant GnuPG, the answer is 'no'.
Assuming you meant PGP, the answer is 'maybe'. PGP provides a secure
deletion tool, but as far as I know there has
Vlad SATtva Miller wrote:
It employs Gutmann's methodology on secure file erasure, so there
*is* a study of its effectiveness.
No one in the private sector has ever claimed to be able to recover data
overwritten even once.
Think about it this way. The next two people you see today, one of
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Do anyone have any suggestions on how to proceed?
Check out whether scdaemon is working, example:
$ gpg-connect-agent
scd serialno
S SERIALNO D27600012401010100010347 0
OK
Youy probably get an error here. To further
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
However, as you are asking this question of the GnuPG list, I suspect
you mean to ask about GnuPG. GnuPG does not have a secure delete
feature.
Let me add that one reason for not providing a secure deletetion feature
is that gpg is Unix tool
Hi,
Unable to install gnupg-1.4.9 ..
Making install in zlib
make-3.79.1-p3a[1]: Entering directory `/users/ruday/gnupg-1.4.9/zlib'
make-3.79.1-p3a[2]: Entering directory `/users/ruday/gnupg-1.4.9/zlib'
make-3.79.1-p3a[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
make-3.79.1-p3a[2]: Nothing to
1. You are not root enough (no problem is /usr/local/bin writable by you)
Ooops!
I mean no problem if /usr/local/bin is writable by you
Gabor
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On Aug 20, 2008, at 3:04 AM, Vlad SATtva Miller wrote:
Robert J. Hansen (20.08.2008 09:12):
Bhushan Jain wrote:
I wanted to know how could the file be deleted securely using PGP?
Assuming you meant GnuPG, the answer is 'no'.
Assuming you meant PGP, the answer is 'maybe'. PGP provides a
On Aug 20, 2008, at 4:08 AM, Werner Koch wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
However, as you are asking this question of the GnuPG list, I suspect
you mean to ask about GnuPG. GnuPG does not have a secure delete
feature.
Let me add that one reason for not providing a
http://www.fileshredder.org/
File Shredder works perfectly great for this purpose.
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Bhushan Jain wrote:
I wanted to know how could the file be deleted securely using PGP?
To check the effectiveness, according to DoD anything that is not wiped with
algorithm DoD 5220.22M has potential to be recovered.
File shredder works well with DoD algorithm and higher. Also it is free.
If you are looking to wipe a disk,you can use DiskNuke. Both are
sourceforge.net projects.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 09:11:16AM -0500, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
If anyone on the list is an EE or a physics geek looking for a good
paper, it might be interesting to explore using the Curie Point as a
data erasure technique. For a lot of the exotic magnetic materials used
in modern hard
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
If you are looking to wipe a disk,you can use DiskNuke. Both are
sourceforge.net projects.
You cannot clear a modern drive using external software! It doesn't
matter what validated software algorithm you use. Drives may reorder
sectors on
Werner Koch wrote:
You cannot clear a modern drive using external software! It doesn't
matter what validated software algorithm you use. Drives may reorder
sectors on the fly, they use read and write caches and do all kind of
tricks to squeeze out more performance. There are even solid
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Hash: SHA512
Chris Walters wrote:
Werner Koch wrote:
That won't be an easy puzzle to solve.
I hate to tell you this, but the F.B.I. Computer Forensics Laboratory has
successfully recovered data from a drive, where the platters were shot
multiple
times
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Hash: SHA512
John W. Moore III wrote:
Chris Walters wrote:
Werner Koch wrote:
That won't be an easy puzzle to solve.
I hate to tell you this, but the F.B.I. Computer Forensics Laboratory has
successfully recovered data from a drive, where the platters
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 04:21:04PM -0400, John W. Moore III wrote:
I believe that We are all agreed that physical destruction of the HD is
the only truly effective means of ensuring Data cannot be recovered.
There is also the possibility to use encryption for *all* data on a
harddisk. If the
Mark H. Wood wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 04:00:19PM -0400, Chris Walters wrote:
I hate to tell you this, but the F.B.I. Computer Forensics Laboratory has
successfully recovered data from a drive, where the platters were shot
multiple
times with a shotgun.
The only sure way to make sure
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 04:00:19PM -0400, Chris Walters wrote:
I hate to tell you this, but the F.B.I. Computer Forensics Laboratory has
successfully recovered data from a drive, where the platters were shot
multiple
times with a shotgun.
The only sure way to make sure no one can recover
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Chris Walters wrote:
I hate to tell you this, but the F.B.I. Computer Forensics Laboratory
has successfully recovered data from a drive, where the platters were
shot multiple times with a shotgun.
==
that wouldn't surprise me, but is there a reference for it?
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Michel Messerschmidt wrote:
There is also the possibility to use encryption for *all* data on a
harddisk. If the key is stored somewhere else (e.g. in your mind or on
another disk), this may prevent data recovery on a similar level.
===
encrypted disks, and
Mark H. Wood wrote:
Hmmm. You'd have to ensure that every point within the coating on
every platter reaches the critical temperature (perhaps for a minimum
amount of time?). That sounds too uncertain when certain destruction
is required.
The idea is that if, say, the CP of the
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Hash: SHA256
Werner Koch escribió:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
If you are looking to wipe a disk,you can use DiskNuke. Both are
sourceforge.net projects.
You cannot clear a modern drive using external software! It doesn't
Chris Walters wrote:
I hate to tell you this, but the F.B.I. Computer Forensics Laboratory has
successfully recovered data from a drive, where the platters were shot
multiple
times with a shotgun.
I have a friend who works in Interesting Places who tells me they once
successfully put
Faramir wrote:
lets say I just want to avoid recovery software like get data back
being able to recover a file. Is there a reliable way to do it
without going to extreme solutions?
No.
I have seen advices about using ccleaner, fileshredder, erase57, and
other tools like those
For the most
Michel Messerschmidt wrote:
There is also the possibility to use encryption for *all* data on a
harddisk. If the key is stored somewhere else (e.g. in your mind or on
another disk), this may prevent data recovery on a similar level.
Let's not confuse a *key* and a *passphrase*. This
Robert J. Hansen wrote:
Faramir wrote:
lets say I just want to avoid recovery software like get data back
being able to recover a file. Is there a reliable way to do it
without going to extreme solutions?
No.
I have seen advices about using ccleaner, fileshredder, erase57, and
other
Kunal Shah wrote:
I wouldn't argue about methods discussed here to destroy the disk.
However one consideration is, what data we are talking about. In my
CISSP course, I was not taught to *destroy* data or protect it. I was
just taught to make it so difficult for hacker to access it so that
Hi!
Am Mittwoch, den 20.08.2008, 21:09 -0400 schrieb Faramir:
The idea is
to make deleted files (not whole drives) unrecoverable to commercial
recovery software.
The german IT-magazine c't did such a test quite some time ago (in 2003,
IIRC) and found that a data recovery firm was unable to
Robert J. Hansen wrote:
I can only speak for myself here, but I strongly suspect Werner, David,
Mark and everyone else who's been chiming in will agree -- we are not
talking about total destruction of hard drives as something you should
want to do.
We're talking about total destruction of
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