More than one key on openPGP card?

2009-02-10 Thread Malte Gell
Hello, can the openPGP card store more than one key? If yes, how many can be stored? Will the forthcoming cards version 2.0 differ from 1.1 in that aspect? Malte signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Gnupg-users

Release candidate for 1.1.4

2009-02-10 Thread Werner Koch
Hi! Due to problems with GnuPG 1.4.7 as included in Gpg4win 1.1.3 on Windows Vista we are about to do a new Gpg4win release 1.1.4. Because there has been no release for a long time I created a release candidate first. Please report all regressions against 1.1.3 to this mailing list or

Re: gpg: failed to create temporary file

2009-02-10 Thread lee_andre
I will create a shell script and see what happens. -- Original message from Joseph Oreste Bruni jbr...@me.com: -- One last test: Rather than having BPEL run "gpg" directly, perhaps you could have it run a shell script that in turn runs "gpg". You should then be able

gnupg on celeron and atom cpus

2009-02-10 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Hi. Does anyone of you have an idea whether it could make problems to use gnupg on Celeron or Atom CPUs? I mean could this have an effect on the PRNG, e.g. that the entropy is worse? Or something similar? Regards, Chris. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: gnupg on celeron and atom cpus

2009-02-10 Thread David Shaw
On Feb 10, 2009, at 9:07 AM, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: Hi. Does anyone of you have an idea whether it could make problems to use gnupg on Celeron or Atom CPUs? I mean could this have an effect on the PRNG, e.g. that the entropy is worse? Or something similar? The PRNG is generally a

Re: gnupg on celeron and atom cpus

2009-02-10 Thread B
Christoph Anton Mitterer schrieb: Hi. Does anyone of you have an idea whether it could make problems to use gnupg on Celeron or Atom CPUs? I mean could this have an effect on the PRNG, e.g. that the entropy is worse? Or something similar? Hej Chris, I cannot imagine why the kind

Re: gnupg on celeron and atom cpus

2009-02-10 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Thanks for your info :-) Best wishes, Chris. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users

Re: (SOLVED) Re: OpenPGP card not accessible

2009-02-10 Thread Malte Gell
Am Dienstag, 10. Februar 2009 11:34:03 schrieb Werner Koch: On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 08:34, malte.g...@gmx.de said: 1. killing running gpg-agent That is not necessarry. You can simply give it a HUP (pkill -HUP gpg-agent). This will reload most of the config options including --scdaemon-program.

Re: gpg: failed to create temporary file

2009-02-10 Thread Michel Messerschmidt
One last test: Rather than having BPEL run gpg directly, perhaps you could have it run a shell script that in turn runs gpg. You should then be able to set whatever variables you need prior to the call of gpg from within the shell script. You can also enable tracing (set -o xtrace) to help

Howto import more than one key from a keyserver at a time

2009-02-10 Thread Sidney Kenson
Hey list, was wondering if it was possible to import many keys at the same time from a keyserver. Had imported a key with a lot of sigs and most of them can't be checked as I don't have the keys the key was signed with. So my question is to import all the signing keys at once, perhaps even with

Re: paperkey // ? feature request

2009-02-10 Thread vedaal
David Shaw dshaw at jabberwocky.com wrote on Sun Feb 8 22:41:10 CET 2009 : In OpenPGP, a secret key is just a public key with some extra stuff (the secret numbers) tacked on to the end. That's how paperkey makes the keys so small - it can safely leave off all the public key information.

Re: paperkey // ? feature request

2009-02-10 Thread David Shaw
On Feb 10, 2009, at 10:49 AM, ved...@hush.com wrote: is there a way to get paperkey to reconstruct both the public and secret keys, given the secret key ? You don't need paperkey to do this. Just use GPG. If you import a secret key and you don't have the matching public key, GPG will

Re: Re: OpenPGP card not accessible

2009-02-10 Thread Malte Gell
Hello, Am Dienstag, 10. Februar 2009 11:34:03 schrieb Werner Koch: (...) Your problem is probably another version of gpg-agent or scdaemon somewhere in your PATH. Hm, I don't buy it.. I continued to try things, the strange behaviour continues, now my openPGP card is shown as empty:

Re: OpenPGP card not accessible

2009-02-10 Thread Werner Koch
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:38, malte.g...@gmx.de said: Hm, I don't buy it.. I continued to try things, the strange behaviour continues, now my openPGP card is shown as empty: I have noticed such a behaviour sporadically but I was not abale to reliable replicate it. Which reader are you using

Re: Howto import more than one key from a keyserver at a time

2009-02-10 Thread John Clizbe
Sidney Kenson wrote: Hey list, was wondering if it was possible to import many keys at the same time from a keyserver. Had imported a key with a lot of sigs and most of them can't be checked as I don't have the keys the key was signed with. So my question is to import all the signing keys at

Re: paperkey // ? feature request

2009-02-10 Thread vedaal
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:30:07 -0500 David Shaw ds...@jabberwocky.com wrote: You don't need paperkey to do this. Just use GPG. If you import a secret key and you don't have the matching public key, GPG will automatically create a public key from the secret key. but i need paperkey to

Re: paperkey // ? feature request

2009-02-10 Thread David Shaw
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:41:12PM -0500, ved...@hush.com wrote: On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:30:07 -0500 David Shaw ds...@jabberwocky.com wrote: You don't need paperkey to do this. Just use GPG. If you import a secret key and you don't have the matching public key, GPG will

Re: Howto import more than one key from a keyserver at a time

2009-02-10 Thread Sidney Kenson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Clizbe wrote: OK, You look to be on Windows. You'll need some sort of POSIX environment on Windows to pull this off, eg Cygwin, SFU, MSYS, UWin,... Or I just export my keyrings from my WinPT and import it in my gpg under Ubuntu and it'll

Re: paperkey // ? feature request

2009-02-10 Thread Robert J. Hansen
ved...@hush.com wrote: uses a public key generated for only this purpose, not put up on any keyserver, This seems to be a misapplication of asymmetric crypto. Asymmetric crypto is generally inappropriate for session keys. is there a way to get paperkey to reconstruct both the public and

Re: Re: paperkey // ? feature request

2009-02-10 Thread Sven Radde
Hi! David Shaw schrieb: If you can't remove the redundant parts, then you're basically storing a secret key, unchanged. Apart from the encoding and line-wise checksums which paperkey adds, that is... Maybe this posting from a thread when I asked to extend paperkey for use with revocation

Re: OpenPGP card not accessible

2009-02-10 Thread Malte Gell
Am Dienstag, 10. Februar 2009 18:09:58 schrieb Werner Koch: On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:38, malte.g...@gmx.de said: Hm, I don't buy it.. I continued to try things, the strange behaviour continues, now my openPGP card is shown as empty: I have noticed such a behaviour sporadically but I was

Re: Howto import more than one key from a keyserver at a time

2009-02-10 Thread John Clizbe
Sidney Kenson wrote: John Clizbe wrote: OK, You look to be on Windows. You'll need some sort of POSIX environment on Windows to pull this off, eg Cygwin, SFU, MSYS, UWin,... Or I just export my keyrings from my WinPT and import it in my gpg under Ubuntu and it'll work. Yes, That's the

Re: paperkey // ? feature request

2009-02-10 Thread vedaal
Robert J. Hansen rjh at sixdemonbag.org wrote on Tue Feb 10 19:18:22 CET 2009 : uses a public key generated for only this purpose, not put up on any keyserver, This seems to be a misapplication of asymmetric crypto. Asymmetric crypto is generally inappropriate for session keys. the situation

RE: paperkey // ? feature request

2009-02-10 Thread i...@ushills.co.uk
The hexidecimal approach works well for a whole secret key. I tried this with the OCRA font and appears to work very well and means that you do not need to get the public key from keyservers. Using this method my secret key printed comes to two sides of A4. Hex is easier to re-enter and this

Re: Paperkey question

2009-02-10 Thread Scott Lambdin
The black helicopters can read the paper copies in your house with microwaves. On 2/9/09, David Shaw ds...@jabberwocky.com wrote: You can't take a public key and just attach the blob to the end. A secret key is made up of secret key packets. You need to convert your individual public key

Re: paperkey // ? feature request

2009-02-10 Thread vedaal
Message: 8 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:44:01 -0500 From: Robert J. Hansen r...@sixdemonbag.org Subject: Re: paperkey // ? feature request [1] 'very-important-secret' encrypted in ascii armored form to unpublished public key using throw-keyid option So only someone with the private key can

Re: paperkey // ? feature request

2009-02-10 Thread Faramir
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Robert J. Hansen escribió: ... So only someone with the private key can decrypt it. Okay. How do you communicate the private key with your intended recipients? And how is communicating the private key with your intended recipients different

Re: paperkey // ? feature request

2009-02-10 Thread Robert J. Hansen
ved...@hush.com wrote: but unless you choose a sufficiently long and random passphrase, symmetric crypto with a passphrase string-2-key is much less protected than when the session key is encrypted to an unknown asymmetric key The moral of the story is to (a) use the right tool for the job,

Re: paperkey // ? feature request

2009-02-10 Thread Robert J. Hansen
Faramir wrote: IMHO, the difference is the recipients can send it's public to me by some way, and check the fingerprint by telephone... It's not a disposable session key if the recipients need to contact the sender afterwards. If you're assuming a high threat environment, you kind of need to

Re: paperkey // ? feature request

2009-02-10 Thread David Shaw
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 04:44:01PM -0500, Robert J. Hansen wrote: [2] above mentioned message posted anonymously to newsgroup like comp.security.pgp.test from internet cafe, (pre-paid in cash, using new usb drive with nothing else on it) USB tokens have GUIDs, Globally Unique

Re: paperkey // ? feature request

2009-02-10 Thread Moritz Schulte
the latter cannot be attacked without the keypair and the passphrase, Keep in mind that we are talking about a hybrid crypto system. Your hidden assumption seems to be that the session key which is generated during encryption to a public key is not worth attacking. Then, nothing prevents you

Hibernation and secret keys

2009-02-10 Thread David Shaw
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 06:57:33PM -0500, Robert J. Hansen wrote: Or consider a hibernation file. When your laptop goes into hibernation mode, your laptop copies its entire internal state to disk so that when you open your laptop again it can pick up right where it left off. That

Re: paperkey // ? feature request

2009-02-10 Thread Robert J. Hansen
David Shaw wrote: Not exactly: http://www.wpi.edu/News/Journal/Summer98/secured_opus.html Thank you for the link -- I was going by my recollection of journalistic coverage after the attack, but apparently either it or my memory was in error. ___

Re: paperkey // ? feature request

2009-02-10 Thread Robert J. Hansen
David Shaw wrote: I don't know if I'd go so far as to call it a GUID as it is only unique relative to the vendor and device type Must be my luck, then -- the ones I've looked at have all had per-device serial #s. There is also no guarantee that the host computer will log the device serial

Re: paperkey // ? feature request

2009-02-10 Thread David Shaw
On Feb 10, 2009, at 9:51 PM, Robert J. Hansen wrote: David Shaw wrote: I don't know if I'd go so far as to call it a GUID as it is only unique relative to the vendor and device type Must be my luck, then -- the ones I've looked at have all had per- device serial #s. I suspect the

Re: paperkey // ? feature request

2009-02-10 Thread Faramir
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Robert J. Hansen escribió: David Shaw wrote: I don't know if I'd go so far as to call it a GUID as it is only unique relative to the vendor and device type Must be my luck, then -- the ones I've looked at have all had per-device serial #s.

Re: paperkey // ? feature request

2009-02-10 Thread David Shaw
On Feb 10, 2009, at 11:21 PM, Faramir wrote: Robert J. Hansen escribió: David Shaw wrote: I don't know if I'd go so far as to call it a GUID as it is only unique relative to the vendor and device type Must be my luck, then -- the ones I've looked at have all had per- device serial #s.

Re: where to start?

2009-02-10 Thread Robert J. Hansen
Dr. Scott S. Jones wrote: I run both Win xp and ubuntu 8.10. My wife runs win xp on her laptop. We are at the point now where we both want to enable encrypted emailing AND we want to find a nice way of educating those we email to often, or with whom we exchange sensitive information, in how to

Re: paperkey // ? feature request

2009-02-10 Thread Faramir
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 David Shaw escribió: ... and capable. The Timothy McVeigh example from earlier is particularly good here: the US government really, really wanted to find him, and fast. That is certainly sufficiently motivated and capable. Right, but if I

Re: paperkey // ? feature request

2009-02-10 Thread Robert J. Hansen
Faramir wrote: Right, but if I understood it well, he had done more than 700 calls from a rechargeable prepaid card... that is not a disposable card. That wasn't his problem. That was, honestly, mostly irrelevant. This was his problem: when you're trying to cover your tracks, there are

where to start?

2009-02-10 Thread Dr. Scott S. Jones
I run both Win xp and ubuntu 8.10. My wife runs win xp on her laptop. We are at the point now where we both want to enable encrypted emailing AND we want to find a nice way of educating those we email to often, or with whom we exchange sensitive information, in how to use gnupg to encrypt email

Re: paperkey // ? feature request

2009-02-10 Thread Faramir
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Robert J. Hansen escribió: Faramir wrote: Right, but if I understood it well, he had done more than 700 calls from a rechargeable prepaid card... that is not a disposable card. That wasn't his problem. That was, honestly, mostly irrelevant.