Hi Daniel,
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor
d...@fifthhorseman.net wrote:
On 07/23/2011 07:04 PM, Marcio B. Jr. wrote:
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Robert J. Hansen r...@sixdemonbag.org
wrote:
So far, OTR adoption seems unjustifiable, really. I mean, it uses the
On 7/26/11 2:44 PM, Marcio B. Jr. wrote:
Are you aware that the purpose of OTR is to allow two parties to
communicate confidentially?
Right now, I'm trying to study OTR within some US Fifth Amendment
contexts. So I'll answer that in a later time.
It seems to be a straightforward yes or no
Hello Robert.
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Robert J. Hansen r...@sixdemonbag.org wrote:
So far, OTR adoption seems unjustifiable, really. I mean, it uses the
Diffie-Hellman key exchange method with block ciphers.
Why is this a problem?
You know, secrets are shared. 100% increase (at
On 7/23/11 1:04 PM, Marcio B. Jr. wrote:
You know, secrets are shared. 100% increase (at least) in exposing
risks.
I need to see a citation for this. What you're claiming is at odds with
everything I've ever learned about how DHKEA operates.
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Hi Aron,
you are somewhat arrogant.
Please read what I wrote till completion.
Regards,
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 07:56:42PM -0300, Marcio B. Jr. wrote:
Hello Daniel,
sorry for such a delay; this has been a wild
On 07/23/2011 07:04 PM, Marcio B. Jr. wrote:
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Robert J. Hansen r...@sixdemonbag.org wrote:
So far, OTR adoption seems unjustifiable, really. I mean, it uses the
Diffie-Hellman key exchange method with block ciphers.
Why is this a problem?
You know, secrets
Hi Robert.
Secrecy sharing constitutes sort of a symmetric fact when more than
one instance is involved and you ask me for a citation?
I resumed this thread in order to clarify whether Kopete's OpenPGP
plugin was really superior, compared to the OTR one, and all people
say is OTR and its
On 7/23/11 2:36 PM, Marcio B. Jr. wrote:
Secrecy sharing constitutes sort of a symmetric fact when more than
one instance is involved and you ask me for a citation?
Yes. I am quite certain that if, say, Daniel Gillmor were to assert
the Earth is round and I were to ask him for a citation, he
Hello Daniel,
sorry for such a delay; this has been a wild JULY.
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor
d...@fifthhorseman.net wrote:
On 07/06/2011 01:28 PM, Marcio B. Jr. wrote:
So far, OTR adoption seems unjustifiable, really. I mean, it uses the
Diffie-Hellman key exchange
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Hi
On Thursday 7 July 2011 at 12:52:42 AM, in
mid:20110706235242.ga24...@helcaraxe.net, Milo wrote:
I think that informative and didactic value of such
response is negligible.
Even if that were true, there would still be the entertainment
Hello,
resuming this thread because I'm studying encryption options for KDE's
Kopete IM client.
So far, OTR adoption seems unjustifiable, really. I mean, it uses the
Diffie-Hellman key exchange method with block ciphers.
As of what I got from your (Robert) explanation plus some preliminary
On 07/06/2011 01:28 PM, Marcio B. Jr. wrote:
resuming this thread because I'm studying encryption options for KDE's
Kopete IM client.
Hmm, i'm not sure this is the best place for this discussion, so i've
marked the subject line OT for off-topic -- if you think there might
be a better discussion
On 07/06/2011 10:28, Marcio B. Jr. wrote:
Hello,
resuming this thread because I'm studying encryption options for KDE's
Kopete IM client.
So far, OTR adoption seems unjustifiable, really. I mean, it uses the
Diffie-Hellman key exchange method with block ciphers.
As of what I got from your
Dear Doug,
I don't know what IDOYTM is supposed to mean, and am afraid I'm
not enough-of-a-teenager to get really concerned with that.
If the existence of big fans justifies quality, Amy Winehouse would be
Teresa of Calcutta.
My question, which, I must emphasize for you, is a question — not an
On 07/06/2011 13:39, Marcio B. Jr. wrote:
Dear Doug,
I don't know what IDOYTM is supposed to mean,
It depends on your threat model. You haven't defined what you're
guarding against, so it's impossible to judge how potential solutions
may or may not help.
and am afraid I'm
not
On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 01:49:52PM -0700, Robert J. Hansen wrote:
(...)
-- it's just not something I can answer. Coherency and security are
matters of personal taste and policy.
Are you sure about that? then find a person who will tell you that (you like
thought experiments, don't you?)
On 7/6/2011 7:52 PM, Milo wrote:
Are you sure about that? then find a person who will tell you that (you like
thought experiments, don't you?) during obvious live threat situation
feels secure. You can imaging what will be a common anwser, right?
You must not know many United States Marines.
Simon Ward schrieb:
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 09:05:35PM +0200, B wrote:
By the way: Using OpenPGP with enigmail in Thunderbird, I miss a feature:
Usually the recipient rules work but if they fail (perhaps due to
background update of Thunderbird and not working plugin), I would like
to have a
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:34 AM, B brud...@cation.de wrote:
Simon Ward schrieb:
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 09:05:35PM +0200, B wrote:
By the way: Using OpenPGP with enigmail in Thunderbird, I miss a feature:
Usually the recipient rules work but if they fail (perhaps due to
background update of
Jeffrey Walton schrieb:
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:34 AM, B brud...@cation.de wrote:
Simon Ward schrieb:
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 09:05:35PM +0200, B wrote:
By the way: Using OpenPGP with enigmail in Thunderbird, I miss a feature:
Usually the recipient rules work but if they fail (perhaps due
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 11:34:47AM +0200, B wrote:
But I'm lacking phantasy of how to use this for preventing me of sending
unencrypted in case that Enigmail does not work properly
So, if it does not work, the confirmation request will not appear and
mail goes out unencrypted, doesn't
Sounds very much like Off-the-Record messaging for every kind of
communication. Or is there a difference I have missed?
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On 4/28/11 11:05 AM, Michel Messerschmidt wrote:
Sounds very much like Off-the-Record messaging for every kind of
communication. Or is there a difference I have missed?
The barrier to usage is still high with OTR: users still have to
authenticate, and you can get horrible sync issues. Plus,
Am 28.04.2011 17:05, schrieb Michel Messerschmidt:
Sounds very much like Off-the-Record messaging for every kind of
communication. Or is there a difference I have missed?
Hej list members,
whatever you ar talking about with this topic: I like using OpenPGP VERY
MUCH and find it VERY
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 09:05:35PM +0200, B wrote:
By the way: Using OpenPGP with enigmail in Thunderbird, I miss a feature:
Usually the recipient rules work but if they fail (perhaps due to
background update of Thunderbird and not working plugin), I would like
to have a chance to see that the
(The subject line may be provocative, but please don't think I'm arguing that
it's not useful. I don't know. I just had an idea a couple of days ago, and I
figure it might be worth some discussion.)
OpenPGP takes its origins from ClassicPGP, which in turn comes out of a
military threat
Some thoughts:
o Agreed: OpenPGP is difficult.
o Media-hopping: each segment can be treated separately. The users
know there is a thread of conversation but the technologies do
not. So, is this point relevant?
o Who is the attacker? A government with sufficient motivation and
Robert J. Hansen wrote the following on 4/27/11 9:48 AM:
(The subject line may be provocative, but please don't think I'm arguing
that it's not useful. I don't know. I just had an idea a couple of
days ago, and I figure it might be worth some discussion.)
OpenPGP takes its origins from
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:09:00 -0400, Mark H. Wood mw...@iupui.edu
wrote:
o Media-hopping: each segment can be treated separately. The users
know there is a thread of conversation but the technologies do
not. So, is this point relevant?
Yes. E.g., OpenPGP messages cannot be reduced to
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 10:11:51 -0400, Charly Avital shavi...@mac.com
wrote:
I'm buying.
May I cross-post and quote, with attribution (CC3 maybe)?
Sure. Consider it CC BY-ND. Repost how you like, commercial use OK. :)
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