Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-03-01 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/01/2013 12:07 AM, Doug Barton wrote: On 02/28/2013 09:33 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: | for a service that specifically targets the OpenPGP community, I | consider using the OpenPGP WoT more appropriate than any CA | Corporation.

Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-03-01 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/01/2013 06:06 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: On 03/01/2013 12:07 AM, Doug Barton wrote: .. I hope you'll reconsider your decision. I certainly continuously consider constructive feedback on the setup, so will give it some more

Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-03-01 Thread Faramir
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 El 25-02-2013 19:54, Peter Loshin escribió: ... 2. On keeping an encrypted backup of my secret key material, what method is recommended for doing that? (Presumably something like gpg --export-secret-keys | gpg --output secretkeymatter.gpg

Re: [Sks-devel] pool.sks-keyservers.net issues (was: Questions about OpenPGP best practices)

2013-02-28 Thread Phil Pennock
On 2013-02-27 at 10:57 +0100, Niels Laukens wrote: Apologies for cross-posting to both mailing lists, but since I got replies via both ways I feel this is the easiest way to sync them. Current status: Kristian and I have debugged and he found the core issue. If I load down my server, we can

Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-02-28 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Mark, A belated answer to this email, as I'm reading through the backlog of emails. On 02/26/2013 03:43 PM, Mark H. Wood wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 05:54:34PM -0500, Peter Loshin wrote: 3. On using a keyserver with HKPS support: when I

Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-02-28 Thread Doug Barton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/28/2013 09:33 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: | for a service that specifically targets the OpenPGP community, I | consider using the OpenPGP WoT more appropriate than any CA | Corporation. Kristian, I certainly understand that

Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-02-26 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 02/25/2013 11:52 PM, Niels Laukens wrote: I find *.sks-keyservers.net unusable (unfortunately). More often than not, I get this: gpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 7: couldn't connect: End of file tcpdump shows me that the server just closes the connection without an answer. It does work from

Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-02-26 Thread Werner Koch
On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 08:52, ni...@dest-unreach.be said: It does work from time to time, so when doing a manual --recv-key, I usually get the key within a few tries. But when using e.g. caff (which The problem is that this is a pool of servers and you don't know which one you are currently

Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-02-26 Thread Niels Laukens
On 2013-02-26 09:14, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: On 02/25/2013 11:52 PM, Niels Laukens wrote: I find *.sks-keyservers.net unusable (unfortunately). More often than not, I get this: gpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 7: couldn't connect: End of file tcpdump shows me that the server just closes the

Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-02-26 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 26/02/13 07:43, Doug Barton wrote: That worked for me, although I was a bit disappointed that placing the cert at /etc/ssl/certs/ca.hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net.cert didn't work like all the docs said it should. Please realise that if it would have worked, you would have installed that

Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-02-26 Thread kristian . fiskerstrand
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Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-02-26 Thread Werner Koch
On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 11:19, pe...@digitalbrains.com said: In other words, trusting a certificate authority is currently an all-or-nothing thing where you now trust them to certify any SSL-protected service you connec Right, they are all implicitly cross-signed. In reality there is no

Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-02-26 Thread Peter Lebbing
On 26/02/13 11:56, Werner Koch wrote: Thus, it won't harm you to add such a kind of Salvation Army CA. Okay, you made me laugh out loud, thanks :). It probably won't hurt to add the sks-keyservers CA, although I don't know how well they guard their private key. Probably fairly well, these are

Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-02-26 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 05:54:34PM -0500, Peter Loshin wrote: 3. On using a keyserver with HKPS support: when I attempt to connect (via Chrome) to https://sks-keyservers.net/, I get an error headlined The site's security certificate is not trusted!, stating the server presented a certificate

Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-02-26 Thread Doug Barton
On 02/26/2013 02:19 AM, Peter Lebbing wrote: On 26/02/13 07:43, Doug Barton wrote: That worked for me, although I was a bit disappointed that placing the cert at /etc/ssl/certs/ca.hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net.cert didn't work like all the docs said it should. Please realise that if it would

Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-02-26 Thread Doug Barton
I got a new error today: gpg: sending key 1A1ABC84 to hkp server pool.sks-keyservers.net gpgkeys: HTTP post error 22: The requested URL returned error: 417 Expectation Failed Never seen that one before. :) Overall the performance of the sks-keyservers pool has been great for me though.

Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-02-26 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 02/26/2013 06:43 AM, Mark H. Wood wrote: That service presents a self-signed certificate (I checked), which means that if you do not already have a copy of that cert. installed in your browser and marked trusted, then it cannot be verified. This is not correct. As noted on the web site

Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-02-25 Thread Peter Loshin
Many thanks to Daniel Kahn Gillmor for pointing to the best practices page (https://we.riseup.net/riseuplabs+paow/openpgp-best-practices); this information is very helpful. Some questions about the information on this page: 1. Don't use pgp.mit.edu. Which keyserver *should* be used? I assume

Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-02-25 Thread Grant Olson
On 2/25/13 5:54 PM, Peter Loshin wrote: 1. Don't use pgp.mit.edu. Which keyserver *should* be used? I assume that a pool is better than a particular server; is there one particular pool that is preferred? What about http://pool.sks-keyservers.net/? Yep, that's the one you want. 2. On

Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-02-25 Thread Doug Barton
On 02/25/2013 02:54 PM, Peter Loshin wrote: Many thanks to Daniel Kahn Gillmor for pointing to the best practices page (https://we.riseup.net/riseuplabs+paow/openpgp-best-practices); this information is very helpful. Some questions about the information on this page: 1. Don't use pgp.mit.edu.

Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-02-25 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 02/25/2013 02:54 PM, Peter Loshin wrote: 1. Don't use pgp.mit.edu. Which keyserver *should* be used? I assume that a pool is better than a particular server; is there one particular pool that is preferred? What about http://pool.sks-keyservers.net/? You should use hkp:// instead of

Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-02-25 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 02/25/2013 10:43 PM, Doug Barton wrote: The Best Practices page you posted above actually suggests: keyserver hkps://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net keyserver-options ca-cert-file=/path/to/CA/sks-keyservers.netCA.pem That worked for me, although I was a bit disappointed that placing

Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-02-25 Thread Doug Barton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/25/2013 11:10 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: | On 02/25/2013 10:43 PM, Doug Barton wrote: | The Best Practices page you posted above actually suggests: | |keyserver hkps://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net |keyserver-options

Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-02-25 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 02/25/2013 11:28 PM, Doug Barton wrote: lots, this one for example: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuTLS hmm, i don't use ubuntu myself, but i believe that documentation is wrong, particularly this section: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuTLS#Deploying_the_Certificates That

Re: Questions about OpenPGP best practices

2013-02-25 Thread Niels Laukens
On 2013-02-26 07:51, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: On 02/25/2013 02:54 PM, Peter Loshin wrote: 1. Don't use pgp.mit.edu. Which keyserver *should* be used? I assume that a pool is better than a particular server; is there one particular pool that is preferred? What about