Re: very short plaintexts symmetrically encrypted

2010-01-12 Thread Werner Koch
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 13:06:03 -0500, lists.gnupg-us...@mephisto.fastmail.net wrote: Forgive me, but how is a MitM attack possible against a symmetric cypher using a shared, secret key? For example by swapping messages. Two messages are sent on two out-of-band events one which says Yes and the

Re: very short plaintexts symmetrically encrypted

2010-01-11 Thread lists . gnupg-users
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 14:02 +0100, Werner Koch w...@gnupg.org wrote: On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:44:35 -0500, ved...@hush.com wrote: symmetrical encryption is a simple way to avoid signing, while still maintaining relative reliability of knowledge as to who sent the message That is not

Re: very short plaintexts symmetrically encrypted

2010-01-10 Thread vedaal
On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:03:53 -0500 Benjamin Donnachie benja...@py- soft.co.uk wrote: 2010/1/8 ved...@hush.com: At any rate, it seems disturbingly easy to distinguish between symmetrically encrypted messages having only the word 'yes' or 'no' just by 'looking' at the ciphertext. i. Don't

Re: very short plaintexts symmetrically encrypted

2010-01-10 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 January 10th 2010 in gnupg-users@gnupg.org thread very short plaintexts symmetrically encrypted then there should be some sort of alert or advisory that the plaintext should be a minimum length (whatever that minimum length or alert/advisory should

very short plaintexts symmetrically encrypted

2010-01-08 Thread vedaal
have been playing around with symmetrical encryption, and noticed something potentially concerning. Here are 6 symmetrically encrypted short plaintexts: -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: passphrase sss

Re: very short plaintexts symmetrically encrypted

2010-01-08 Thread Benjamin Donnachie
2010/1/8 ved...@hush.com: At any rate, it seems disturbingly easy to distinguish between symmetrically encrypted messages having only the word 'yes' or 'no' just by 'looking' at the ciphertext. i. Don't send such short messages ii. Don't use symmetric encryption. Ben