Dear Jose,
Let me first thank you for your scintillating presentation on writing and
its inspiration(s) at the workshop on fiction for advanced writers
end-April.
Somehow when I read this poem, I could almost imagine you reading it out to
us in your measured pace.
Can we feature this poem
Regarding Jose Lourenco's question:
My Brother:
Not all who left were Great Goans or Great Intellectuals. Some of us little
Goans just left because the spirit so moved usand there is no guarantee we
will not return either because childhood memories of sweet mangoes and
Who exiled the Goan Intellectual?
by Jose Lourenco
You left, O great Goan
To walk with kings and poets
And to shine like a martyred star
With glowing angst and exile-chic
But They, unmindful, toil on.
Folks,
This cry is
Who exiled the Goan Intellectual?
by Jose Lourenco
joselourenco1...@gmail.com
Did the gauddis and kunnbis toiling
In yonder fields throw you out?
Or did the kharvis on sandy shore
Weigh you with fish scales
And find you wanting?
Did the escrivao frown
Over horn rimmed glasses?
Did the posorkar
Jagdish writes:
There is a relatively simple solution to the so called immigrants
problem. Make Konkani a required language in schools and for
all civil service jobs.
Excellent points. Konkani is it! A movement to put konkani in front
--- irrespective of script --- can by default solve the
Vivian Wrote:
The issue of migrants derogatorily referred to as Ghattis is also raised
from time to time.
But I dare say that the economy of Goa would suffer immeasurably without the
laborers
from beyond the Ghats. There are hardly any ganv-bhav willing to do the
backbreaking work
performed
There is a relatively simple solution to the so called immigrants
problem. Make Konkani a required language in schools and for
all civil service jobs. Use konkani in all government announcements,
street signs and instructions. Print all government forms only in
Konkani, but make available English
:-))
- Original Message -
From: manuel tavares duk...@bell.net
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:27 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Goanet] Who is a Goan
I personally feel that if I can motivate Tony and others like him to take up
the challenge and organize grass
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:57:11 -0500
From: manuel tavares duk...@bell.net
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Subject: [Goanet] Goanet] Who is a Goan
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I detest the attitude of Tony De Sa when he
You are missing the point, Tony! For some of our expat Goa friends,
underlining how inferior Goa is today only helps to justify their
decision to move away from the place they claim their heart bleeds
for!
To justify this inexplicable decision, all kinds of excuses are invented too!
It is a
Also, note how fickle-minded some expat Goans can be. When there is a
whole lot of hype in the British media (tabloids included) about how
great a paradise destination Goa is, they would also join in the
chorus to sing paens of praise.
This is precisely what i call boot-licking!
You have
For once I agree with Frederick and Tony about Goans esconsced in their comfort
zones abroad giving sermaos about what Goans should do in Goa. As I have
said before, those
remarks are meant more for themselves to assuage their consciences for having
abandoned Goa.
One must actually
Dear Ms. Miranda,
You say:
Well, please don?t generalise Mr Sa. It is precisely because it seems to us
goans abroad, that our bothers and sisters in Goa are fighting a loosing
battle trying to stop Goa from going down the drain, that some of us with
the best of intentions and good will are
I detest the attitude of Tony De Sa when he considers NRG's pontificating from
comfort zones which reeks of Jealousy. Does he mean to say that NRG's do not
have the interest of Goa at heart or is he one of those who condones the status
quo and does not advocate for change in routing out
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Hi Oster :-)
Are you referring to the legal, political, moral or Constitutional
definition of who is a Goan?
I think there are diverse viewpoints on this. A.K.Priolkar has an
essay of his own on Who is a Goan too.
As a member of an expat community which has roamed the world and
benefitted from
Mr. Noronha,
Do elaborate on what moral definition you are alluding to, and for whom?
Can the foreign residents presently in Goa claim Goaness?
I. Nunes
--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Frederick Noronha fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Oster :-)
Are you referring to the legal, political, moral or
Ricoh says:
I am unwilling to
accept exclusivist what-is-good-for-me-is-not-good-for-you
So, if this is the case what right has Frederick to label people communal and
secular. If this is the argument then everyone has the right to think the way
he wants and there can be different angles to
...@gmail.com
To: soter so...@bsnl.in; Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!
goanet@lists.goanet.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Who is a Goan?
Hi Oster :-)
Are you referring to the legal, political, moral or Constitutional
definition of who is a Goan?
I
*Who is a Goan?*
*Tue Dec 15 10:01:27 PST 2009*
Joao asks: Maybe, a better question is: Who am I?
Mr. Noronha,Do elaborate on what moral definition you are alluding to, and
for whom?Can the foreign residents presently in Goa claim Goaness?I.
Nunes--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Frederick Noronha
A narrow or rather elite definition could be as follows:
The most important aspect of the definition of a Goan is his imported
or Iberian surname. Therefore any person with an Iberian surname who
was born in Goa and resides either in Goa or elsewhere is naturally
a Goan.
As for non-resident
Ave Cleto Alphonso's recently published book defines who is Goan. Does
Frederick Noronha now understand why a Bihari or a Delhiwala and a Gujarati
cannot become a Goan in the ture sense?
oster
I read with bated breath a thread (which is now quietly dying down) on [Goanet]
entitled CHRISTIANs WITH HINDU NAMES ARE COWARDS.
http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/183528.html
One Jorge Dias in ringing tones thundered, Those Christians in India who
are operating
, 2008 2:04 AM
Subject: [Goanet] Who is Anti-Goan?
During the Anti-SEZ movement, Mr. Mathany Saldanha called for Tourists to
leave Goa by a certain date. I have my views on the latter, with respect
to
the critics:
(A) Criticism from some sections of the Public:
While I do agree that Tourism
To Goanet -
Floriano Lobo wrote:
I see myself as a throughbred Goan. I am not bothered if the rest of India
goes up in flames due to misplaced priorities of a few to reap rich benefits
for
themselves. But if that affects my Goa, then I
don't want anything to do with the rest of India (Migrant
During the Anti-SEZ movement, Mr. Mathany Saldanha called for Tourists to
leave Goa by a certain date. I have my views on the latter, with respect to
the critics:
(A) Criticism from some sections of the Public:
While I do agree that Tourism is a major contributor to Goa's Economy, DO WE
KILL THE
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