Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs 2017 Budget

2017-02-25 Thread Sebastian Silva
Hello all, On 25/02/17 20:33, Tymon Radzik wrote: > Sugar Labs is by its statement *volunteer*-driven project. We are > volunteers. We work for the idea of the free and open software and not > for own financial profit. It is worth to reflect upon this point. Certainly the design and engineering

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs 2017 Budget

2017-02-25 Thread Samson Goddy
As Dave and Caryl mentioned earlier, i think the best thing is to redefine our missions, visions and goals. As Sameer said in the last video, "Sugar and Sugar Labs are both different". He also gave an example using how Drupal came up with theirs. So i think what should be our top priority to keep

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs 2017 Budget

2017-02-25 Thread Tymon Radzik
Sugar Labs is by its statement *volunteer*-driven project. We are volunteers. We work for the idea of the free and open software and not for own financial profit. I can't agree with the idea of monthly stipends (salaries) being paid to some members. Not only breaking something I considered to be

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs 2017 Budget

2017-02-25 Thread Chris Leonard
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Laura Vargas wrote: > > > 2017-02-24 13:51 GMT-05:00 Caryl Bigenho : >> >> Hello Again >> >> > > Hola Caryl, >> >> The "Badge" proposal is a totally inappropriate use of SL funds and could >> result in litigation

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Sugar Labs 2017 Budget

2017-02-25 Thread Lionel Laské
Hi all, +1 Caryl I can't imagine a budget without a project proposal. Money could be a way to solve issues. The issue could not be to spend money. And yes, the most important thing is feedbacks from the field. It's why it was super important to me to launch the first OLPC France Sugar deployment

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Sugar Labs 2017 Budget

2017-02-25 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Hi All, OK, it's time to get real. The problem with all of this talk is that most (but not all) of you haven't a clue how teachers and schools operate! Unless SugarLabs' products are targeted to perceived needs of teachers, parents, school boards, school owners, after school tutoring

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Sugar Labs 2017 Budget

2017-02-25 Thread Dave Crossland
On Feb 25, 2017 6:27 PM, "Walter Bender" wrote: On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 5:39 AM, Sam Parkinson wrote: > On Sat, 2017-02-25 at 08:36 +0530, Dave Crossland wrote: > > Actually I am not convinced of this; I do not believe that the latest > > releases of

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Sugar Labs 2017 Budget

2017-02-25 Thread Laura Vargas
2017-02-25 7:57 GMT-05:00 Walter Bender : > > > On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 5:39 AM, Sam Parkinson wrote: > >> On Sat, 2017-02-25 at 08:36 +0530, Dave Crossland wrote: >> > Actually I am not convinced of this; I do not believe that the latest >> > releases of

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Sugar Labs 2017 Budget

2017-02-25 Thread Walter Bender
On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 5:39 AM, Sam Parkinson wrote: > On Sat, 2017-02-25 at 08:36 +0530, Dave Crossland wrote: > > Actually I am not convinced of this; I do not believe that the latest > > releases of the Python codebase reach classrooms, and the js codebase > > only reaches

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs 2017 Budget

2017-02-25 Thread Sam Parkinson
On Sat, 2017-02-25 at 08:36 +0530, Dave Crossland wrote: > Actually I am not convinced of this; I do not believe that the latest > releases of the Python codebase reach classrooms, and the js codebase > only reaches one.  > > One of the projects listed is social help. It's a fine idea, but a >