Re: Simpless way to prevent arbitary HLQ's

2008-10-07 Thread R.S.
Ed Gould wrote: [...] What we did way back when when we did not have RACF was to put a password for update on the master catalog. It worked effectively. We never told the operator the password so either the operator replied incorrectly or no reply and the job timed out on a 522. Ed, This is

Re: Mainframe education/training

2008-10-07 Thread Maarten Slegtenhorst
Gabe, I haven't answers to all questions, but I hope this helps: - What's new since the z/Journal article ran and what did the article miss? For me, nothing changed. - What's the good and bad news about today's mainframe education? Good news: In the Netherlands education/training is still

Re: REXX error

2008-10-07 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
when I run my exec REXX the error appears: 1 +++ ? IRX0013I Error running BRAS, line 1: Invalid character in program what is this?? An invalid character as the message says. The question mark suggests that it may be an unprintable character from REXX' point of view. -- Peter Hunkeler

XCFAS CPU usage

2008-10-07 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi We see a very high CPU usage by the XCFAS address space We have a z9 S07 with integrated CF, and currently only one z/OS 1.9 running in the SYSPLEX I have opened a PMR, and after a number of SMF, RMF, component trace etc, etc still nobody have any idea. As we have a test/development

Re: XCFAS CPU usage

2008-10-07 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi Thank you for your answer. The PMR list is very long with different traces dumps etc etc If you need I can send you . My primary question if it is a normal behavior or not. It can easily happen, I made some serious mistakes during the SYSPLEX setup , GRS definition or elsewhere. I have

Re: Mainframe education/training

2008-10-07 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock [ snip ] And it struck me, not for the first time, how training can be a relatively inexpensive way to say to an emloyee, we believe in you, we value you; we want you to stay happy and productive;

Re: IBM 3179

2008-10-07 Thread P S
OK, that wasn't entirely coherent. I meant, There are companies who buy them to resell, and every now and then, someone NEEDS one. On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:32 AM, P S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are folks who buy them. And every now and then, someone wants to buy one. So it's A Good Thing if

Re: VSAM I/O

2008-10-07 Thread Hal Merritt
Let me guess: you want to encrypt something and don't want to have to modify application programs. My question is how you would control who is authorized to use your hook? And, of course, how do you plan to manage the keys and the changing thereof. -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Mainframe education/training

2008-10-07 Thread Reda, John
Gabe, Based on customer demand we began offering basic SyncSort training earlier this year. The response has been overwhelming. We are struggling to keep up with demand which is a wonderful problem to have! Our experience is that people are enthusiastically embracing the training. They are

Re: The Obsolete mainframe?

2008-10-07 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
Yeah, mainframes are about as obsolete as telephones. And by far not as obsolete as buzzword journalism. -- Peter Hunkeler Credit Suisse -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

Re: XCFAS CPU usage

2008-10-07 Thread Barbara Nitz
Miklos, I have opened a PMR, and after a number of SMF, RMF, component trace etc, etc still nobody have any idea. What exactly did IBM ask for? What do the RMF reports show? How many requests to which structures, how many requests to which XCF groups? Buffer sizes of XCF groups? What's your

Dynamic PAV - which alias will be moved

2008-10-07 Thread Kevin Somers
Hi, first post! I've noticed an odd behavior in how WLM selects the aliases being moved from one UCB to another to decrease IOSQ time. A few months ago, we converted a number of base addresses to aliases while converting/migrating some storage-pools from model9 to model27. (we run on an STK

Re: RACF education/books/papers...

2008-10-07 Thread Robert S. Hansel (RSH)
Ron, You may find the information on our website useful, particularly the RACF newsletters, white papers, and presentations available via the RACF Center page. You'll also find information about various RACF Users Group which might be close by. Here is the url: http://www.rshconsulting.com

Re: The Obsolete mainframe?

2008-10-07 Thread Scott Ford
Amen Peter Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer [p] 678.266.3399 x304[m] 609-346-0399 identityforge.com This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the

Re: REXX error

2008-10-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 08:25:09 -0400, P S wrote: Or just replace the first line of the program with /**/ and you'll know it's good (less scientific, but easier!). Ummm. If the program was loaded from SYSPROC, this will cause it to be treated as a CLIST rather than an EXEC, and the OP is not likely

Re: HSM DASD Backup volumes

2008-10-07 Thread Bri P
Thanks Terry -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Traylor, Terry Sent: 06 October 2008 21:14 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HSM DASD Backup volumes We have a few small z/OS 1.9 images which have no tape access and use HSM

Re: REXX error

2008-10-07 Thread P S
Or just replace the first line of the program with /**/ and you'll know it's good (less scientific, but easier!). On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Under ISPF, edit your REXX using ISPF Picture Strings. Issue the command on the command line:F P'.'

Re: IBM 3179

2008-10-07 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
Troy Allen Cross wrote: Anyway, I have around 100 IBM 3179 terminals that I need to dispose. There are a number of users around there who still use them, although the 3279 was heavier, but had more features. Try posting a few on eBay, and put a notice in one or more Hercules groups

Re: REXX error

2008-10-07 Thread Lizette Koehler
Under ISPF, edit your REXX using ISPF Picture Strings. Issue the command on the command line:F P'.' If there is a hex character the upper Right Hand corner of your ISPF Edit session should tell you what the character is. The Cursor should be on the section of your code with the hex data in

Re: jes2

2008-10-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/25/2008 at 03:04 PM, Carroll, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I am not very versed in jes2. I can not seem to find any decent information on the subject. All of the jes2 lines Defined in the shop are half-duplex. What kind of lines? What protocol? If you're

Re: Linkage editor different ways to bind

2008-10-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/25/2008 at 09:39 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Haven't the archaic constraints on ordering of overriding DD statements been much relaxed in recent OS releases? Not relaxed, just changed in such a way as to break existing JCL. -- Shmuel (Seymour

Re: Article on z/OS on Intel, sort of.

2008-10-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/24/2008 at 08:12 PM, Lindy Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Two questions came to mind. I tried to think of another mainframe besides IBM's. Only Sperry and Unisys came to mind. I had to look in wikipedia to see if they still exist. I think so. Unisys is a

IBM 3179

2008-10-07 Thread Troy Allen Cross
IBM-MAIN list, It's been a long time since I posted to this list. I've been busy working with AIX and Oracle (SunGard Banner ERP) the last few years. Anyway, I have around 100 IBM 3179 terminals that I need to dispose. Do they have any value? Museum!?!? ;-) Or, should I just send them with

Re: NJE buffer size question

2008-10-07 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 08:59:48 -0400, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date:Mon, 6 Oct 2008 10:54:44 -0500 From:Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1) Where the devil do you set the buffer size for a NJE link in JES2? I can't find it anywhere. 2) What's the maximum buffer size

Subject: Doniparti Lakshminarasimha Rao/India/IBM is out of the office - 16th

2008-10-07 Thread Anton Britz
Out sourcing to India ? Lehman was part of this too and the executives yearly remuneration ? The chairman of the committee held up a chart suggesting that Fuld's personal remuneration totalled $480m (£276m) over eight years, including payouts of $91m in 2001 and $89m in 2005. Why do we not

Re: IBM 3179

2008-10-07 Thread P S
There are folks who buy them. And every now and then, someone wants to buy one. So it's A Good Thing if you can find someone to take 'em, even for pennies. On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On

Re: IBM 3179

2008-10-07 Thread William Donzelli
Do they have any value? Museum!?!? ;-) Every computer museum or retrocomputing group I know of either has a few, or does not want any. Or, should I just send them with our old PC scrap to an IT scrap recycler? Probably best to send the to the recycler. They will likely go to China to be

Re: REXX error

2008-10-07 Thread Hardee, Charles H
Can you post the first 5 or 6 lines in a fixed pitch font like Courier? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: The Obsolete mainframe or Newspapers

2008-10-07 Thread Cebell, David
Most of the Major Newspapers are experiencing declining readership. Their revenues are down. Belo spun off The Dallas Morning News as it continues to lose money. Perhaps the paper may be obsolete first. ( that is if the government doesn't come in and prop them up) -Original

Determining file attributes *before* OPEN

2008-10-07 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I have gone round and round with the manuals on this and I think I have the answer, but I just want to check my findings with others who have done similar things. These questions are for a normal z/OS LE/COBOL/Assembler non-authorized batch application environment not using Unix System Services

Re: Digital Certificate Implementation TN3270

2008-10-07 Thread Hal Merritt
An auditor said it, so it must be true :-)) Just kidding. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulrich Boche Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 10:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Digital Certificate Implementation TN3270

Re: Determining file attributes *before* OPEN

2008-10-07 Thread John McKown
Look at the OBTAIN macro for DASD resident datasets. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DGT2S341/1.3.2 You'll need to get the volser that the dataset is on. If you simply have a DD, the RDJFCB will get the DSN. You'd then need to do a catalog lookup to find the volser.

Re: Determining file attributes *before* OPEN

2008-10-07 Thread Richard Peurifoy
Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: So, besides actually issuing an OPEN, is there any non-authorized facility or service that would simply let me discover some basic file attributes for an allocated DD? You can use the OBTAIN macro (see DFSMSdfp Advanced Services) to read the DSCB. -- Richard

SMS managed storage volumes.

2008-10-07 Thread Richbourg, Claude
I have a pool of several SMS managed storage volumes that are out of, or soon will be, DSCB's. The ones that are 'USE ATTRIB of PRIV', I can move dsns and extend the VTOC in place via batch job. The ones that are 'USE ATTRIB of STOR', I cannot work with as I get this message, 'ICK31025I VOLUME NOT

Re: Determining file attributes *before* OPEN

2008-10-07 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: So, besides actually issuing an OPEN, is there any non-authorized facility or service that would simply let me discover some basic file attributes for an allocated DD? Unless they've been discontinued lately, try the LOCATE and CAMLST macros. Gerhard Postpischil

Re: Determining file attributes *before* OPEN

2008-10-07 Thread George Fogg
Look at the OBTAIN macro for DASD resident datasets. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DGT2S341/1.3.2 You'll need to get the volser that the dataset is on. If you simply have a DD, the RDJFCB will get the DSN. You'd then need to do a catalog lookup to find the

Re: Determining file attributes *before* OPEN

2008-10-07 Thread Rick Fochtman
You might want to check out the SVC-99 Information Request parameters. IIRC, you can point to a DD statement without opening the dataset. Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: I have gone round and round with the manuals on this and I think I have the answer, but I just want to check my findings with

Computer Outage Notification Policy?

2008-10-07 Thread Longnecker, Dennis
Anyone have a computer outage notification policy they might want to share with me? I'm looking for wording in regards about who to notify, and when, when various applications become unavailable (and I guess available too). Things like after x hours of unavailability, notify CIO. After x

Crypto help

2008-10-07 Thread Lucy Arnold
All, A big THANK-YOU! to everyone who responded...I have a better understanding now, but may have more questions as the project progresses! Again, I can't thank all who responded enough! Lucy Arnold Storage Manager U.C. Davis Medical Center 916-734-5498

Re: SMS managed storage volumes.

2008-10-07 Thread John McKown
Use attributes don't make any difference with an SMS managed volume. All of our SMS managed volumes are USE PRIVATE. Works well. If you want to stop SMS from allocating on a particular volume, you must mark the volume as DISNEW. This is done with an operator command similar to: V

Re: Determining file attributes *before* OPEN

2008-10-07 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks John. Somehow I missed OBTAIN when I was browsing that manual. RDJFCB with an X'13' EXLST entry will return the first few volume serial numbers assigned to the dataset, so RDJFCB and OBTAIN would seem to be the way to go. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Determining file attributes *before* OPEN

2008-10-07 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks, I think that's what I'll be using. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Peurifoy Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 12:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Determining file attributes *before* OPEN

Re: Determining file attributes *before* OPEN

2008-10-07 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks, but LOCATE/CAMLST only returns a volume list, not D(S)CB attributes. I can get the first few volumes from RDJFCB as well, along with the DSN, and that's enough info to use OBTAIN (which I missed the first time around) to get the DSCB. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Determining file attributes *before* OPEN

2008-10-07 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I called myself looking at those parameters, but perhaps I missed something. I will look again. Thanks. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 12:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU

JES2 Exit 52 Working Sample

2008-10-07 Thread Frank Martinez
I am trying to find a working JES2 exit 52 that adds a card to the current JOB card. I am not well-versed in JES2 exits and I have tried contacting some of the local shops. Unfortunately, they either don't use such an exit or it doesn't do the routine I require. Since I have joined this

Re: SMS managed storage volumes.

2008-10-07 Thread Linda Mooney
Hey Claude, All of our SMS volumes are mounted PRIVATE, including temporary storage. They work just fine. Linda Mooney -- Original message -- From: Richbourg, Claude [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a pool of several SMS managed storage volumes that are out of, or soon

PDS LOCk

2008-10-07 Thread Ram Balaji
HI all, Can anyone say how to lock a PDS. All the members of my PDS are sensitive can I lock them with password Please help me. Regards, Ram Balaji.S -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: JES2 Exit 52 Working Sample

2008-10-07 Thread Cebell, David
Look in your Sample JES Library. On Z/os 1.8 it is SYS1.SHASSAMP HASX52A -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Martinez Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 12:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: JES2 Exit 52 Working Sample I

Re: PDS Lock

2008-10-07 Thread Ram Balaji
Lindy Mayfield This is a curious question... -Original Message- From: Lindy Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:25 am Subject: Re: PDS Lock What utility is used to password protect a dataset? That's one thing I've never seen in over 20

Re: PDS Lock

2008-10-07 Thread John McKown
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 13:24:24 -0400, Ram Balaji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi David, Iam not aware security packages... Is it possible to do it with JCLs... I mean while creating the PDS itself can we we lock it...? Regards, Ram Balaji.S Basically, no. If you have a security package, then that is

Re: PDS Lock

2008-10-07 Thread John McKown
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 12:31:08 -0500, Cebell, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is difficult to imagine a shop without some type of security package. That said, You may want to look at the LABEL Parameter of the DD Statement. Probably won't work anymore. It requires that a special dataset, named

Re: PDS Lock

2008-10-07 Thread John McKown
Forgot to mention that my solution with the ADDSD only works on a RACF protected system. I don't know Top Secret or ACF2. -- John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PDS Lock

2008-10-07 Thread John McKown
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:25:10 +0200, Lindy Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What utility is used to password protect a dataset? That's one thing I've never seen in over 20 years. The TSO PROTECT command updates the PASSWORD dataset. It is so old that I doubt that any system actually uses it any

Re: NJE buffer size question

2008-10-07 Thread Jack Schudel
IBM treats CTC links as BSC, so you would set the NJE buffer size via TPDEFBELOWBUF=(SIZE=). For NJE over TCPIP JES2 just passes the data over to Comm Server, so you need to work with those folks (and probably your networking people, too.) You will probably get better answers if you

Re: Determining file attributes *before* OPEN

2008-10-07 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 10/7/2008 12:02:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks, but LOCATE/CAMLST only returns a volume list, not D(S)CB attributes. I can get the first few volumes from RDJFCB as well, along with the DSN, and that's enough info to use OBTAIN (which I

Re: PDS Lock

2008-10-07 Thread Mark Jacobs
Lindy Mayfield wrote: I would have never guessed passwords could still be used, but then I went over to an ISPF edit screen and the password field is still there. I've ignored it for so long I don't see it anymore. I seem to remember that passwords aren't even checked anymore for sms

Re: Determining file attributes *before* OPEN

2008-10-07 Thread David Kreiss
If you want all volume serial numbers use RDJFCB along with EXLST entry X'13' (EXARL in IHAEXLST) retrieve allocation information instead of entry X'07' (EXLRJFCB) and use IHAARL and IHAARA to map the ARL and ARA returned (the JFCB is in ARAJFCB). Dave Kreiss -Original Message- From: IBM

Emulators

2008-10-07 Thread Ram Balaji
Hi all, Is there any free?Mainframe(JCL,CICS) simulators available for desktop PC? They say NEXUS terminal is free nut I cant find a working host name/ Ip address for it... Regards, Ram Balaji.S. (Dying Hard to explore Mainframes)

Re: Determining file attributes *before* OPEN

2008-10-07 Thread Edward Jaffe
(IBM Mainframe Discussion List) wrote: Get the DSN from the RDJFCB. Then get the volsers from either the RDJFCB or the data returned via LOCATE. Plug each volser into the CAMLST that you use with OBTAIN, then do the OBTAIN to read the DSCB for each volume. Or use the volser from the

Re: OSA ICC Consoles

2008-10-07 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 06:55:27 +0200, Barbara Nitz wrote: Dave, a few questions: 1. Is your sysplex located fully on the box that was POR'd? Barbara, We're not a sysplex, so none of this applies. But that's an interesting situation for those that are. Do you IPL in a specific order in a

Re: PDS Lock

2008-10-07 Thread Scott Rowe
I make it a point NOT to have a PASSWORD dataset on my sysres. I consulted at a shiop a few years ago that had one, and it was a PITA, since they were securing some datasets with password, and others using RACF, believe it or not. Lindy Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/7/2008 1:58 PM I would

Re: PDS Lock

2008-10-07 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:25:10 +0200, Lindy Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What utility is used to password protect a dataset? That's one thing I've never seen in over 20 years. The TSO PROTECT command (TSO HELP PROTECT). It is ignored on RACF systems (and Top Secret) but still works on ACF2

Re: SMS managed storage volumes.

2008-10-07 Thread Richbourg, Claude
Thanks to all who responded. I mounted them PRIVATE and expanded the VTOC as much as I could. Life is now good/better. Regards, Claude Claude Richbourg Florida Department of Corrections z Systems Programmer 850-921-1383 -- For

Re: Emulators

2008-10-07 Thread John McKown
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:20:22 -0400, Ram Balaji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Is there any free?Mainframe(JCL,CICS) simulators available for desktop PC? They say NEXUS terminal is free nut I cant find a working host name/ Ip address for it... Regards, Ram Balaji.S. (Dying Hard to explore

Re: PDS Lock

2008-10-07 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:36:29 -0400, Scott Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I make it a point NOT to have a PASSWORD dataset on my sysres. I consulted at a shiop a few years ago that had one, and it was a PITA, since they were securing some datasets with password, and others using RACF, believe it or

Re: PDS Lock

2008-10-07 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 13:47:44 -0400, John Eells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip (There's more...but nobody rational uses password protection any more.) I know of 2 ACF2 shops that use them. I don't know about rational, but when I asked why the sysprog told me he liked the extra prompt before

Re: PDS Lock

2008-10-07 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 13:50:21 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:36:29 -0400, Scott Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I make it a point NOT to have a PASSWORD dataset on my sysres. I consulted at a shiop a few years ago that had one, and it was a PITA, since they were

Re: PDS Lock

2008-10-07 Thread Don Leahy
Another possibility is to write a program to encrypt the PDS so that no one else can make sense out of it. Of course, anyone who looks at the PDS may think it is corrupted, and delete it out from under you. :-) -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: OSA ICC Consoles

2008-10-07 Thread Hal Merritt
POR? Why? AFAIK, the last three remaining reasons for a POR are: loss of power, adding a new LPAR, and bringing up a box for the very first time. I thought I heard that some relief in adding an LPAR is in the pipeline. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: RACF education/books/papers...

2008-10-07 Thread Clark Kidd
IBM maintains a RACF home page at www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/racf/. There are lots of links to presentations and other introductory materials. Clark -Original Message- From: Schwarz, Barry A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 3:11 PM Subject: Re: RACF

Re: Determining file attributes *before* OPEN

2008-10-07 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:06:28 EDT, IBM Mainframe Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... The only difference is which source (LOCATE or RDJFCB) will give you the complete volser list, if either. A complete list may not matter. For DSORG, RECFM, LRECL and BLKSIZE, the first volume should be

Re: PDS Lock

2008-10-07 Thread Jack Kelly
snip ... how to protect my PDS ... unsnip If a SAF solution isn't available to the originator, I would suggest that the originator look into a SCLM methodology since (s)he seems to be more applications orientated. And if at 1.9, s(he) could use OMVS as the repository and use ACL and UNIX

Re: CHECKCLIENTCONN

2008-10-07 Thread Ron Wells
anyone using the parameter ? and suggestions on settings... experiences ? -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This

Re: PDS Lock

2008-10-07 Thread John McKown
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 15:32:16 -0400, Jack Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip ... how to protect my PDS ... unsnip If a SAF solution isn't available to the originator, I would suggest that the originator look into a SCLM methodology since (s)he seems to be more applications orientated. And if at

Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.

2008-10-07 Thread Howard Rifkind
Hello all, I'm trying to delete the following datasets: PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL *VSAM* PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA OPSPR2 PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX OPSPR2 For the first one a 'D'

Re: PDS Lock

2008-10-07 Thread Scott Rowe
I'm not sure that is completely true, I remember there being an issue, but I don't remember the details. Not all datasets were protected by RACF (there were no GROUPs or profiles for most HLQs), so that might have had something to do with it. Do you have a reference for PASSWORD protection

Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.

2008-10-07 Thread Hal Merritt
Try a DELETE NOSCRATCH on each component. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't

Re: PDS Lock

2008-10-07 Thread Scott Rowe
That makes sense, and matches the configuration I remember. Walt Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/7/2008 3:16 PM On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 13:50:21 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:36:29 -0400, Scott Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I make it a point NOT to have a PASSWORD

Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.

2008-10-07 Thread Jack Kelly
This has been talked about numerous times, try the archives. Easiest way is to recatalog the DSN and then delete it (hopefully no BCS name issue) if you don't have one of the catalog products. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office)

Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.

2008-10-07 Thread Howard Rifkind
Thanks but this didn't do itJCL below... //STEP01 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* DELETE - PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX - NOSCRATCH -

Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.

2008-10-07 Thread Staller, Allan
DEL 'cluster name' NSCR If that fails, DEL 'component name' VVR FILE(DD1) Where DD1 points to volume OPSPR2 HTH, snip I'm trying to delete the following datasets: PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL *VSAM* PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA

Re: PDS Lock

2008-10-07 Thread Cebell, David
And if your image has an OMVS segment, does that not Imply that a Security package is present. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PDS Lock

Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.

2008-10-07 Thread Linda Mooney
Could these datasets be catalogued/shared on another system? If so, and they are unallocated and unwanted, then delete NOSCRATCH them from each system. On the last system use the SCRATCH. DELETE - PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL - CLUSTER -

Re: The Obsolete mainframe?

2008-10-07 Thread Mike Baldwin
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:45:45 -0400, Scott Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they are dead, I must be working on ghost machines..lol PSI? Of Edward Jaffe From what I know, just the opposite is true. Mainframe revenues at large ISVs subsidize their entire business -- including massive

Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.

2008-10-07 Thread Howard Rifkind
Tried that also, No Go. Jack Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/7/2008 4:34 PM This has been talked about numerous times, try the archives. Easiest way is to recatalog the DSN and then delete it (hopefully no BCS name issue) if you don't have one of the catalog products. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390

Re: PDS Lock

2008-10-07 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 16:25:23 -0400, Scott Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have a reference for PASSWORD protection being ignored? Already posted by George Fogg. http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0810L=ibm-mainD=1amp;O=DF=S=P=39162 But that conflicts with what Walt wrote (sort of).

Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.

2008-10-07 Thread Hal Merritt
Try again, this time use only NOSCRATCH. And, as another poster pointed out, verify we are working in the catalog we think we are working in. If all that fails, let's take a look at the specific error message(s). -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Emulators

2008-10-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I think somebody's trying to get a 'free' education! First, the question about 'locking' a PDS, and not understanding the response regarding a security package. Now, this one. Look it up, research the problem, then ask! --Original Message-- From: Ram Balaji Sender: IBM Mainframe

Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.

2008-10-07 Thread Scott Rowe
I assume the list below was cut and pasted from ISPF 3.4, in which case I can not imagine how the first entry could not be cataloged, how else could it have been displayed? Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/7/2008 4:22 PM Hello all, I'm trying to delete the following datasets:

Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.

2008-10-07 Thread Howard Rifkind
Yes it was. Here is the listing from a LISTCAT. CLUSTER --- PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL DATA --- PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA INDEX -- PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX NONVSAM --- SCRIPT.R40.ADCFASM

Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.

2008-10-07 Thread Jason Gately
If you do a TSO DELETE 'PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL'what R eturn Reason Codes do you get back from IDCAMS. Might provide some clue as to what's going on. Cheers.Jason. Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU

Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.

2008-10-07 Thread Howard Rifkind
There is an entry there but that's all. Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/7/2008 5:57 PM Yes it was. Here is the listing from a LISTCAT. CLUSTER --- PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL DATA --- PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.DATA INDEX --

Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.

2008-10-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Thanks but this didn't do itJCL below... //STEP01 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* DELETE - PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL.INDEX - NOSCRATCH -

Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.

2008-10-07 Thread Howard Rifkind
IDC3012I ENTRY PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL NOT FOUND+ IDC0551I ** ENTRY PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL NOT DELETED IDC0014I LASTCC=8 IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 8 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLEG-42 ***

Re: REXX error

2008-10-07 Thread Claudio Marcio
post of the initial lines ** * Top of Data ** ==MSG -Warning- The UNDO command is not available until you change ==MSG your edit profile using the command RECOVERY ON. 000710 /* REXX para mostrar o dia da semana que cai o

Re: Help with deleting datasets which are not cataloged or don't exist.

2008-10-07 Thread Jim Phoenix
Perhaps it is in the wrong catalog? Howard Rifkind wrote: IDC3012I ENTRY PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL NOT FOUND+ IDC0551I ** ENTRY PDB.SYSPROG.TMON.LMCICS.V22.VTCECNTL NOT DELETED IDC0014I LASTCC=8 IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE

Re: REXX error

2008-10-07 Thread P S
Ummm. If the program was loaded from SYSPROC, this will cause it to be treated as a CLIST rather than an EXEC, and the OP is not likely to know it's good. Ah. That would be a TSO requirement -- that the first line have REXX in it? If so, then my apologies. I use Rexx on other platforms.

Re: STC JCL Question

2008-10-07 Thread Roger Bolan
You're right. I had jumped back and taken only a quick glance at the original post in the thread, and I was fooled by the wrapping. The //* comment line was the only line in my email copy that had anything out to the right, but that was not the line to which the OP was referring. The

Re: REXX EXEC

2008-10-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/24/2008 at 11:22 PM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: More to the point, century year that is not a mod 400 year is not a leap year. Not quite, but the adjustment won't be in my lifetime. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position;

Re: PDS LOCk

2008-10-07 Thread Anton Britz
Hi Ram, Do not get confused with all these technical discussions that you received but lets start at the very beginning : a) Are you a User , a Systems programmer or just a programmer b) If you say sensitive data .. what do you mean by that c) Who should be able to see this data ? ex. Only

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