W dniu 2011-09-13 23:37, Carlos Bodra - Pessoal pisze:
Hello List Gurus.
We are in process of migrate from an ancient IBM 2105-F20 with 1TB of
legacy mainframe data to a IBM 1750-522 (DS6800). Both subsystems has
volumes defined as 3390-3 and no software features (flashcopy, pprc
etc..) used in
hi Lim,
my advise would be to add some TEMP datasets within the JCL... you can
hardcode the Volser with a disp of Delete, Delete.
this util allocates space from TEMP as defined in SMS and remove after the
success..
thanks,
Amit
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Lim Ming Liang limm...@unifi.my
Something is wrong with Ed's email that causes single quote (or apostrophes) to
show as #39,
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
Mingee, David
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:51 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re:
I tried that with SYSUT1 ddname, but GIMUNZIP still dynamically allocate it.
Regards Lim ML
On 14/09/11 3:43 PM, amit wrote:
hi Lim,
my advise would be to add some TEMP datasets within the JCL... you can
hardcode the Volser with a disp of Delete, Delete.
this util allocates space from TEMP as
can you try directing it to tape instead of DASD, specifically mention ur
TAPE psuedos...it wd take a lot of IO, but end of the day it would help you
achieve success.
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Lim Ming Liang limm...@unifi.my wrote:
I tried that with SYSUT1 ddname, but GIMUNZIP still
BTW, what is #39,t mean? I see it frequently, is it encrypted cursing?
Hahaha
No, it's an attempt by smart mail user agents to insert a fancy apostrophe
character instead of using the single quote. The 39 is the hex character code
for the apostrophe.
I guess my first thought / question would be to identify where the bottleneck
for the backups is; disk I/O, tape I/O, or CPU?
Presumably disk I/O didn't change a whole lot for reading the data or you would
have seen impacts elsewhere too. My guess would be similar for the CPU.
However, if
Hi Mike
You might have already checked but I thought it maybe usefull to mention:
I have used IOCP books when I had to do troubleshooting in standalone IOCP,it
was on 9672 machines, but I have found it usefull on that time.These are latest
version on ibm resourcelink website.
* For
On 9/13/2011 5:38 PM, Carlos Bodra - Pessoal wrote:
Hello List Gurus.
We are in process of migrate from an ancient IBM 2105-F20 with 1TB of
legacy mainframe data to a IBM 1750-522 (DS6800). Both subsystems has
volumes defined as 3390-3 and no software features (flashcopy, pprc
etc..) used in
added volume parameter in the ARCHDEF, resolved the issue.
I think I can close this thread.
Thank you all.
Regards Lim ML
On 14/09/11 5:47 PM, amit wrote:
add volume parameter in
the
ARCHDEF.
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Thanks for your opinion.
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Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 2:50 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Question for SMP/E gurus with DB2 knowledge
In
advise would be to add some TEMP datasets within the JCL... you can hardcode
the Volser with a disp of Delete, Delete. this util allocates space from TEMP
as defined in SMS and remove after the success..
If you're in an SMS world, why hard code a volser?
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Ted MacNEIL
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1) I would increase bufnum before bufsize
2) Compress the output...
HTH,
snip
This is a weird question, but I've been directed to ask it. We are
converting some VSAM datasets which currently use BMC's Data Accelerator
compression to use SMS compression instead. This is a financial
decision.
Meral:
Thanks. Yes, I have been reading the manuals. I have not found an
example that shows what I want to do and no explanation in them that
what I am trying to do is not legit.
Mike
On 09/14/2011 07:43 AM, Meral Temel (Garanti Teknoloji) wrote:
Hi Mike
You might have already checked
Thanks. Yes, I see those entries. Messing around with the CISIZE is a bit
iffy because I am not the primary responsibly person for these files. I
cannot change them without permission. But I'm tasking with converting the in
sitsu because programming just doesn't have the time necessary to be
Given that the most obvious difference is that what used to take 3 output tapes
is now going to 12 output tapes, the slow down is due to the number of bytes
being written to tape. The bytes read from disk seem be about the same because
the number of cylinders taken by the VSAM dataset is the
From 3 output tapes to 12? What kind of tape drives are you using?
Rex
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McKown, John
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:18 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: SMS compressed VSAM
You could point SDSNEXIT to a library you don't use for anything. SMP
would still assemble and link DSNZPARM, but you wouldn't use the output
module.
In our case, I always delete the SMP step from DSNTIJUZ.
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They are virtual 3490s in a 3494 VTS from IBM. To anticipate some likely
questions. They are SMS managed. The DATACLAS assigned to all virtual 3490s has
COMPACTION=YES specified in it. The messages indicate that they are compressed.
Eg:
IEC705I TAPE ON
Yes, on my new DB2 installs, I simply omit the step from DSNTIJUZ, but once
it's run, the damage is done.
You pin-pointed my problem on older systems, the APPLY CHECK works fine, but
when you actually run the APPLY, it can fail because of a reference to an
obsolete SDSNEXIT library. Your
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:24:04 +0300, A.Watthey a.watt...@gmail.com wrote:
Sebastian,
You should subscribe to the proper netview list where there is far more
expertise than here (netv...@yahoogroups.com).
However, what you need to do is check out the DEFAULTS SLOGCMDR value. You
need either NO or
Caveat: Moved on to other products, so it's been a few years since I was a db2
sysprog so I may just being dense.
It isn't clear what damage you're trying to reverse, or perhaps I don't
understand what obsolete means in this context.
Why would the SMP/E defined SDNSEXIT dsn be classified
In case you do want more information, searching the complete z/OS V1.12 library
for sys1.imagelib finds hits in 27 documents.
In 1315958086.61838.yahoomailmob...@web161421.mail.bf1.yahoo.com, on
09/13/2011
at 04:54 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com said:
The 3800 printers essentially obsoleted all printers.
No.
1. It was too expensive.
2. Some sites required impact printers for multi-part forms.
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In 0de6a9840123e547b061ac5b6765c02610f...@exmb-05.ad.wsu.edu, on
09/14/2011
at 08:06 AM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu said:
Something is wrong with Ed's email that causes single quote (or
apostrophes) to show as #39,
Code points 96, 131, 145 and 146 are also single quotes.
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In
20b9d8db9552d44981f6ebb3d26f579524a...@lm-hsexmsg-p06p.lm.lmig.com,
on 09/14/2011
at 02:51 AM, Mingee, David david.min...@libertymutual.com said:
Ed, Not that I know of. BTW, what is #39,t mean?
It's a character entity, and should only be used in HTML, SGML and
XML. The decimal number
In 4e6fc2e1.9080...@neo.tamu.edu, on 09/13/2011
at 03:53 PM, Richard L Peurifoy r-peuri...@neo.tamu.edu said:
This was supposed to go to the ISPF-L list.
Why? The issue is far from limited to ISPF. In fact, your reply listed
some of the other areas. IMHO this list is the proper venue.
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In 20110913223925.DXFKW.7837.root@hrndva-web03-z01, on 09/13/2011
at 10:39 PM, Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com said:
I suspect there aren't a lot of the printers such as 1403 and 3203
printers left anymore either.
I'd be surprised to see many of those running, but there are probably
We also use Faver and it is a handy tool to have especially for reorgs and
point in time backups. Most of our backups go to a TMM disk pool so we bypass
tape initially but eventually, some of the backups end up on tape during
migration. I have occasionally wondered if using HSM functionality
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[mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:41 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets
In
Sebastian,
One item that you may want to consider. Display commands might be fine for
something like this, but consider commands that do something like z rod or
confit etc. These commands IMO should be logged so you can have accountability.
Auditors should be asking about items like this.
Ed
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:18:12 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
Given that the most obvious difference is that what used to take 3 output
tapes is now going to 12 output tapes, the slow down is due to the number of
bytes being written to tape. The bytes read from disk seem be about the same
because
On 9/14/2011 11:41 AM, Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote:
In4e6fc2e1.9080...@neo.tamu.edu, on 09/13/2011
at 03:53 PM, Richard L Peurifoyr-peuri...@neo.tamu.edu said:
This was supposed to go to the ISPF-L list.
Why? The issue is far from limited to ISPF. In fact, your reply listed
some of
Thanks. My boss is working with CA support right now with this new release. We
just got it in this morning.
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IT
Administrative Services Group
HealthMarkets(r)
9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010
(817) 255-3225 phone *
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00afc0ed...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom,
on 09/14/2011
at 08:08 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:
And chaning from Faver to ADRDSSU is no go because that is a change
which would require going through change control for each and every
file.
I take
Yes there were follow on printers. I suspect there are very few real need
for carbon copies anymore. I suppose, but I suspect that the number has
decreased because with electronic copies the need is mute except for cash
register and the odd type are needed.
Ed
I have no idea what the issue is. The email you sent back to me does not
contain the characters you indicated.
A friend suggested it#39;s a ISP issue. I will try using m other client and
see if the issue follows.
Ed
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In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00afc0ed...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom,
on 09/14/2011
at 11:45 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:
Well, according to our LAN people, Windows is the only true standard.
Which windoze? M$ introduces incompatabilities with every release.
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We aren't dropping Faver. We are dropping Data Accelerator. It did go through
change control. But nobody knew the effect it would have. I made sure that the
converted datasets were still fully and compatibly accessible. They are. But
apparently nobody monitored the effect on test or Model
You will let us know if it works, right? :-)
Rex
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McKown, John
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:59 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: SMS compressed VSAM datasets
Thanks. My
Yes, I'll update the list one way or another.
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Systems Engineer IV
IT
Administrative Services Group
HealthMarkets(r)
9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010
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The Register has another mainframe related article which points out the rising
importance of the mainframe and its growth in recent years.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/13/bmc_mainframe_survey/
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re: The Register has another mainframe related article which points out the
rising importance of the mainframe and its growth in recent years.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/13/bmc_mainframe_survey/;
No, this can't be right, obviously whoever wrote this article is not reading
enough
I notice they claim only 4,000 Mainframe shops in the world. I thought
the number was closer to 10,000.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Bobbie Justice
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:43 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Hi Ed, you are saying you see no 39 in either this subject line and in the
quoted note below. Then your client is doubly broken :)
Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
On 14 September 2011 14:49, Ken Porowski ken.porow...@cit.com wrote:
I notice they claim only 4,000 Mainframe shops in the world. I thought
the number was closer to 10,000.
I have no idea, but I still have my VM Soars with 20,000 licenses
poster from IBM. That was from the 1990s, IIRC.
Tony
Mr Timothy Prickett Morgan is not and never has been a great fan of mainframes.
If you have ever read his comments, he always comes across as being anti-M/F
and to some extent anti-IBM. As to the number of M/F sites in the world today?
Where did he get this number from? As Bobbie Justice said,
It is not just Ed's mail client that doesn't show the HTML numeric character
reference (NCR) that others see. If I look at your message using the web
interface (whose address is at the end of all messages), the NCR appears in the
subject in the list of messages for September, but when I look at
I sent my previous message using the Listserv web interface, and I see it
replaced the NCR in the subject with an apostrophe. I didn't tell it to do that
- it did it automatically.
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:40:10 -0500, Bill Godfrey yak36...@yahoo.com wrote:
It is not just Ed's mail client that
I am working on apparently my issue with either my client or ISP issue with
sending text.
Could you let me know (via private email) how your client sees the following
characters.
1. Double quotes ()
2. Single quotes (')
3. ampersand ()
4. at symbol (@)
5. Percent (%)
I think I have an ISP
I heard about 7200 that was 10 yrs ago ...
Scott J Ford
Software Engineer
http://www.identityforge.com
From: Aled Hughes aledlhug...@aol.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: Mainframe article
Mr Timothy Prickett Morgan is not and never has
It's is coming through on my end.
The : (colon) is coming through fine.
I am confused.
Ed
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From: Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:59 PM
Subject: it's
Hi Ed, you are saying you see no 39 in either this
I know of at least one 1403-N1 still in regular service, maintained by
cannabalized parts from two other units as needed.
Rick
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Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In
You haven't dealt with the government regulatory agencies lately, have
you, Ed? Some will not accept electronic copies but instead DEMAND
carbon copies. At Clearing, we went round and round with Commerce Dept.
types who INSISTED that we had to produce carbons, so we had to rent
time on a
Maybe he found something more ineresting. Like Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse
or Bugs Bunny, mayge?
Rick
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Bobbie Justice wrote:
re: The Register has another mainframe related article which points out the
rising importance of the mainframe and its growth in
Another alligator pundit? All mouth and no brains? :-)
Rick
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Aled Hughes wrote:
Mr Timothy Prickett Morgan is not and never has been a great fan of mainframes. If you have ever read his comments, he always comes across as being
Rick,
As a former Disney employee and resident of Central Florida, you should not
associate Mickey or Donald with this 'author'!! :)
Glenn
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To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Wed Sep 14
While I was composing the test email I noticed that there is a switch to rich
text option that shows up on my one client and not the other.
Sigh.. I am guessing that somehow if I use the IPAD that somehow the ISP is not
telling my client to present that option and assumes that I always want
Rick,
Well when I worked at Options there wasn't such a need as we got rid of out
impact printers and that was in 1990's
Ed
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From: Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: SYS1.IMAGELIB
SHARE button from Anaheim JES2 may be Mickey Mouse, but JES3 is goofy!
In a message dated 9/14/2011 3:23:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
rfocht...@ync.net writes:
Like Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse
or Bugs Bunny, maybe?
I have a DASD volume with very high activity and will be running a CCW
trace to gather diagnostic info. I have all the info I need to run the
trace.
Does anyone have (or can you point me to) the CCW trace reduction
program.
This was a program (basically PROC FREQ) that reduced the target
address
The newest release of Faver from CA was just tested. It reduced our backup time
from 58 minutes to 10 minutes and from 11 tapes to 6 tapes. Unfortunately, it
is not totally transparent in that it requires a new DD statement, DSSMSGDD. It
is invoking ADRDSSU to do the actual dump of the data.
Tony Harminc wrote, re the number of mainframes in the world:
I have no idea, but I still have my VM Soars with 20,000 licenses
poster from IBM. That was from the 1990s, IIRC.
Yeah, alas, that 20,000 apparently included every VM license ever sold at
that point, including ones never installed, or
John,
I remember doing something like this with a utility which name escapes me (PDS
UTILITY)but it was a company from Farmington Michigan and I had to call their
help desk to figure it out. This was 20 years ago. But I remember it was not
exactly straight forward how to do.
Ed
All,
Isnt it odd no one seems to know number of z/OS,VSE,VM shops in the World or in
the USA.
I worked for a well known vendor on the z/OS,VE and VM team we had 2500
customers.
We pretty much could tell you what they had or what we had in their customer
account record.
Scott J Ford
Scott,
There might be an issues between legal and let#39;s say less than legal. A
former company that I used to work for had 4 systems and paid IBM for two. The
IBM rep knew they were supposedly only for DR hmmm, not really but I digress.
IBM rep had full knowledge of the deal. One time I was
In 1316031374.5682.yahoomail...@web161424.mail.bf1.yahoo.com, on
09/14/2011
at 01:16 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com said:
It's is coming through on my end.
Does your e-mail client have an option to view the raw message text?
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ISO
I realize it's a grave insult to Mickey and Donald to make a direct
comparison. Forgive me for a moment of weakness mixed with disgust at
the temerity of this so-called author.
Rick
-
Schneck.Glenn wrote:
Rick,
As a former Disney
I'd kill for those buttons; economics keep me at home. :-(
Rick
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Ed Finnell wrote:
SHARE button from Anaheim JES2 may be Mickey Mouse, but JES3 is goofy!
In a message dated 9/14/2011 3:23:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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