On 2 February 2011 09:50, W. Kevin Kelley wkkel...@optonline.net wrote:
WTOs, WTORs and WTLs have always been restricted to a subset of code-
page 037 character set 697. Specifically, the following characters:
A through Z
0 through 9
characters + * / , . ( ) ' - = : % ? ; and blank
On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 07:25:23 -0800, Edward Jaffe
edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote:
This restriction must be for consoles only. I see those other characters in
the log.
+1+2+3+4+5+6+7-
---+
N 0001000 MVS602011032 08:00:40.32
On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:50:40 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-
m...@patriot.net wrote:
I believe that he is running into a restriction in console processing.
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Correct.
WTOs, WTORs and WTLs have always been restricted to a subset of code-
page 037 character set 697. Specifically,
On 2/2/2011 6:50 AM, W. Kevin Kelley wrote:
While we have eased the restriction on the use of lower-case a through z
characters in messages, we have not removed the restriction on the use of
other code-points, although we have had a proposal to do so. The proposal
died due to a lack of formal
On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 07:25:23 -0800, Edward Jaffe
edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote:
On 2/2/2011 6:50 AM, W. Kevin Kelley wrote:
While we have eased the restriction on the use of lower-case a through z
characters in messages, we have not removed the restriction on the use of
other code-points,
Juan Mautalen wrote:
as you may know, Ñ(X'69') is an important character in spanish languaje. We
have z/OS 1.9, and i have observed the following odd behaviour:
What I see in your post is a Capital N with a small reversed horisontal letter
S
on top of Capital N. Is that correct?
You can put Ñ
On 2/1/2011 7:12 AM, Juan Mautalen wrote:
You can put Ñ in datasets and browse/edit them without any problem (from ISPF).
You can even have Ñ in RACF database (for instance, in a userid NAME, or
INST-DATA).
However, when an Ñ happens to be written to SYSLOG, you see it as a blank. In
others
On 2/1/2011 9:03 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
Juan Mautalen wrote:
as you may know, Ñ(X'69') is an important character in spanish languaje. We
have z/OS 1.9, and i have observed the following odd behaviour:
What I see in your post is a Capital N with a small reversed horisontal letter S
on
Elardous:
What I see in your post is a Capital N with a small
reversed horisontal letter S
on top of Capital N. Is that correct?
Yes, that correct. Its pronounciation is very different from N. For instance,
ÑOM in spanish is pronounced as GNOM in english.
What are you using to see
Steve Comstock wrote:
No. It's a tilde. On my keyboard it's the shift character on the key left of
the '1' key.
Oh yes, you're right. I now saw that '~' on my little keyboard. Thanks for
educating me, I really appreciate it very much!
Perhaps switching to English? ;-D
Or Afrikaans?
Much
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Subject: Re: Ñ(X'69') character and SYSLOG display
Elardous:
What I see in your post is a Capital N with a small
reversed horisontal letter S
on top
On 1 February 2011 11:10, Juan Mautalen jgmauta...@yahoo.com.ar wrote:
Yes, that correct. Its pronounciation is very different from N. For instance,
ÑOM in spanish is pronounced as GNOM in english.
GN is a fairly unlikely English representation of Spanish Ñ or ñ. In
ordinary English
On 1 February 2011 11:19, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:
This might help:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/isf4cs91/2.15
I didn't see where it says what happens if you don't specify a code page or
TRTAB, but I suspect it defaults to CP 037 (US EBCDIC).
CP 037
The closest I can find on this is here:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2a690/21.6
It lists the code points which are acceptable to the WTO macro and are
displayed on consoles. I can't see anything that says that SYSLOG itself
has the same restriction. The x'69'
interesting to digest.
Colin Pearce
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Subject: Re: Ñ(X'69') character and SYSLOG display
On 1 February 2011 11
, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com escribió:
De: Chase, John jch...@ussco.com
Asunto: Re: Ñ(X'69') character and SYSLOG display
Para: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Fecha: martes, 1 de febrero de 2011, 14:19
This might help:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/isf4cs91/2.15
I didn't
I beleive that is the explanation, John. Thanks you, and also to the other
contributors of the thread.
Juan Mautalen
--- El mar 1-feb-11, John McKown joa...@swbell.net escribió:
De: John McKown joa...@swbell.net
Asunto: Re: Ñ(X'69') character and SYSLOG display
Para: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
for what was once properly spelled
Sennor.
Charles
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Subject: Re: Ñ(X'69') character and SYSLOG display
On 2/1
feliz año nuevo vs feliz ano nuevo
BIG difference g
Charles
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Subject: Re: Ñ(X'69') character and SYSLOG
On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:16:10 -0600, Elardus Engelbrecht
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:
Perhaps switching to English? ;-D
Or Afrikaans?
Much better! :-D
But that may have similar problems, nê?
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if you see SYSLOG with sdsf look his codepage
2011/2/1 Juan Mautalen jgmauta...@yahoo.com.ar
Hi,
as you may know, Ñ(X'69') is an important character in spanish languaje. We
have z/OS 1.9, and i have observed the following odd behaviour:
You can put Ñ in datasets and browse/edit them
On 1 February 2011 14:20, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:
feliz año nuevo vs feliz ano nuevo
BIG difference g
And in French, porc salé vs porc sale. It's interesting that
Google Translate correctly makes the difference between those two in
French, but translates both the accented and
My Google xlate gives both translations for ano.
Charles
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Subject: Re: Ñ(X'69') character and SYSLOG display
On 1 February 2011 16:17, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:
My Google xlate gives both translations for ano.
Well, I meant the entire phrase. I think feliz ano nuevo taken
exactly is just too improbable. Whereas both porc salé and porc
sale are quite reasonable, though with vastly different
Juan,
Are you saying the byte for the x'69' is actually being written into the
syslog as x'40', or just that it displays as a blank when you view it?
For SDSF, you might want to take a look at
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/topic/com.ibm.zos.r12.isfa500/isffr.htm#isffr
which
Sorry. I was viewing this in Gmail and didn't realize there were deleted
messages in the thread before I posted.
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Roger Bolan rogerbo...@gmail.com wrote:
Juan,
Are you saying the byte for the x'69' is actually being written into the
syslog as x'40', or just
In listserv%201102011003314607.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 02/01/2011
at 10:03 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
said:
What I see in your post is a Capital N with a small reversed
horisontal letter S on top of Capital N. Is that correct?
Yes, the Eña in an N with a Tilde, and
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