On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 11:17:45 -0500, Salva Carrasco wrote:
>Not yet: DML was expanded to 8 char.
>
More context, please. Which statement in which earlier ply are you discussing?
And what's a "DML"?
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> > I wish JCL had nev
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> I wish JCL had never provided
>//SYSIN DD * Generated Statement
&
of
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 20:57:19 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>No. IBM provided DD * to terminate DD *, back w
On Oct 14, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Paul Gilmartin
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> I wish JCL had never provided
>//SYSIN DD * Generated Statement
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Isn’t it JES2 that does that?
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No. IBM provided DD * to terminate DD *, back when there was a street drug
called Primary Control Program. Later IBM made /* optional for DD * in MFT and
MVT, but by then people were used to providing it and in some ca
On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 20:57:19 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>No. IBM provided DD * to terminate DD *, back when there was a street drug
>called Primary Control Program. Later IBM made /* optional for DD * in MFT and
>MVT, but by then people were used to providing it and in some cases didn't
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>Do You the reason why the default for
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Do You the reason why the default for SYSSYM is DISALLOW?
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This is a nice illustration of some general rule that probably deserves a
psychological study.
First, there was JCL.
Then, SYSIN data, which (naturally) was terminated by the next JCL card
(which always start with //).
Then, some wanted a way to put JCL in SYSIN data. So, DD DATA was invented.
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Do You the reason why the default for SYSSYM is DISALLOW?
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 19:50:04 +, Lars Höglund wrote:
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>Do You the reason why the default for SYSSYM is DISALLOW?
>
Obsession with compatibility. It's possible that someone, somewhere, has
a "dusty old deck" containing a string matching the name of a system
symbol which would break with
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I think System Symbols are only
On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 12:15:07 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote:
>> (I would have used IEBGENER. "New Hammer" phenomenon.)
>
> Old habit :)
>
And you couldn't resist doing it twice!
What does the "$$" after the "/*" do?
>
>It is terminating the >//SORTIN DD DATA,DLM=$$
>Since I am building the
Terminates input processing matching the DLM=$$
What does the "$$" after the "/*" do?
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> (I would have used IEBGENER. "New Hammer" phenomenon.)
Old habit :)
>>> What does the "$$" after the "/*" do?
It is terminating the >//SORTIN DD DATA,DLM=$$
Since I am building the JCL in-line, I had to use the DLM
Thanks,
Kolusu
On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 11:01:38 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote:
>> I've used an IKJEFT TSO ISPF step or SDSF screen scraping to extract
>> a job's own JobID. Is there a simpler way?
>
>How about using system symbols and ? Something like
>this?
>
Thanks. I had been looking at some old JCL, perhaps
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> I've used an IKJEFT TSO ISPF step or SDSF screen scraping to extract a
> job's own JobID. Is there a simpler way?
Gil,
How about using system symbols and ? Something like
this?
//STEP0100 EX
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Refer to "Assembler Services Guide" "Obtaining a
it.
At what point in processing is the submitted JobID available?:
o INTRDR OPEN?
o INTRDR CLOSE?
o somewhere in between?
I'm wondering whether when dynamically generating JCL the job's own
JobID is available for embedding in SYSIN or PARM for a later step.
I've used an IKJEFT TSO ISPF step or SDSF
> I've used an IKJEFT TSO ISPF step or SDSF screen scraping to extract
> a job's own JobID. Is there a simpler way?
Gil,
How about using system symbols and ? Something like
this?
//STEP0100 EXEC PGM=SORT
//SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=*
//SORTOUT DD SYSOUT=(*,INTRDR)
//SYSINDD *
OPTION COPY
12:37:01 -0500 Paul Gilmartin
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:>I see that the UNIX SUBMIT command shows the JobID of the submitted job.
:>What interface makes this available. I suspect it's in JES or Assembler
Services,
:>but I don't know how to find it.
:>At
I see that the UNIX SUBMIT command shows the JobID of the submitted job.
What interface makes this available. I suspect it's in JES or Assembler
Services,
but I don't know how to find it.
At what point in processing is the submitted JobID available?:
o INTRDR OPEN?
o INTRDR CLOSE?
o somewhere
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