Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-27 Thread Horst Sinram
Sysevent REQLPDAT is z/OS only. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-27 Thread Horst Sinram
Sysevent REQLPDAT offers quite a bit more information than Sysevent QVS (https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.iead200/iead200821.htm) and could also be called unauthorized when that matters. Horst Sinram - STSM, z/OS Workload and Capacity Management

Re: BCPii (Was: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?)

2016-04-27 Thread Mike Shorkend
You might want to look at my SHARE presentation http://share.confex.com/data/handout/share/126/Session_18592_handout_9070_0.pdf I describe how BCPii is used to automate a daily DR test. The lack of support for zVM is indeed annoying. I spoke to Steve Warren(responsible for BCPII development at

Re: BCPii (Was: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?)

2016-04-27 Thread Martin Packer
That explains "A158" and "3090" (and "C580") :-) True dat. :-) In my new "How To Be A Better Performance Specialist (Than Martin Packer)" :-) presentation I reinforce the importance of having a view of an installation's history. I was talking last week to a customer's "NextGen z" people with

Re: BCPii (Was: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?)

2016-04-26 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I've known shops that let serial or model number creep into naming conventions. Like Mark, we control names across upgrades. Back in the Stone Age, IBM used to recommend embedding model number in SMF and JES names. And that required a cold start to change! Sort of nuts it seems to me. . . .

Re: BCPii (Was: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?)

2016-04-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 26 Apr 2016 13:25:45 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote: >On 4/26/2016 1:13 PM, Mark Zelden wrote: >> When my client replaces their CPCs the name is kept the same. For example >> CPCA, CPCB, CPCC, ... etc. The RACF profile is based on that name so >> nothing needs to

Re: BCPii (Was: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?)

2016-04-26 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 4/26/2016 1:13 PM, Mark Zelden wrote: When my client replaces their CPCs the name is kept the same. For example CPCA, CPCB, CPCC, ... etc. The RACF profile is based on that name so nothing needs to be changed in RACF. A RACF SEARCH command produces the following profiles beginning with

Re: BCPii (Was: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?)

2016-04-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 26 Apr 2016 07:58:23 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote: >Oh yeah, and I need to set up a >slew of HWI security profiles in RACF with our new CPC serial number. >Ugh. Another time... > When my client replaces their CPCs the name is kept the same. For example CPCA,

Re: BCPii (Was: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?)

2016-04-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 26 Apr 2016 07:58:23 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote: >On 4/25/2016 5:20 PM, Pinnacle wrote: >> :-P BCPii is fairly prevalent these days. >> It's enabled everywhere I've been. > >Now that we're talking about BCPii, despite it being a _totally, >completely and

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-26 Thread Tony Thigpen
Yep. I can get there. Getting in and out of supervisor state is common in my code. Tony Thigpen Greg Dyck wrote on 04/26/2016 01:13 PM: Tony, If you can get into supervisor state, use the STSI instruction. Under z/OS the CSRSI service uses STSI to provide the data that it returns to problem

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-26 Thread Greg Dyck
Tony, If you can get into supervisor state, use the STSI instruction. Under z/OS the CSRSI service uses STSI to provide the data that it returns to problem program state requestors. I don't know if VSE provides any equivalent service. Greg On 4/25/2016 10:55 AM, Tony Thigpen wrote: Is

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-26 Thread Bob Rutledge
On 4/26/2016 12:15 PM, Phil Smith III wrote: Assuming what you want to know is MSU counts (not clear to me from the discussion so far), here's a Rexx snippet to show you those for the CEC and the LPAR: /* REXX -- Looks at memory and displays MSU counts */ z =

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-26 Thread Phil Smith III
Charles Mills wrote: > VSE (as the OP wanted) or only z/OS? Oops. I didn't notice that. Never mind. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-26 Thread Charles Mills
VSE (as the OP wanted) or only z/OS? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 9:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: can a program determine the capacity setting

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-26 Thread Phil Smith III
Assuming what you want to know is MSU counts (not clear to me from the discussion so far), here's a Rexx snippet to show you those for the CEC and the LPAR: /* REXX -- Looks at memory and displays MSU counts */ z = c2d(storage(d2x(c2d(storage(d2x(c2d(storage(10,4))+604),4))+228),4)) say

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-26 Thread Neil Duffee
Caveat: the daily digestion causes response delays... I'm sure someone's already suggested this very same... Tony: I feel QVS is your route (if available on VSE) and matches, almost exactly, what you need. Even tho' it's listed in Auth'd Services, it has an un-auth'd access method.

Re: BCPii (Was: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?)

2016-04-26 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I have to agree that BCPii is an inappropriate answer to OP's question. We had to set it up years ago when we went to GDPS to manage our DR environment. We soon expanded its role to include all LPARs (except z/VM) on all CECs. I highly recommend BCPii , which is more powerful today than when we

Re: BCPii (Was: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?)

2016-04-26 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: > On 4/25/2016 5:20 PM, Pinnacle wrote: > >> :-P BCPii is fairly prevalent these days. It's >> enabled everywhere I've been. >> > > Now that we're talking about BCPii, despite it being a _totally, > completely and

BCPii (Was: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?)

2016-04-26 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 4/25/2016 5:20 PM, Pinnacle wrote: :-P BCPii is fairly prevalent these days. It's enabled everywhere I've been. Now that we're talking about BCPii, despite it being a _totally, completely and thoroughly_ inappropriate solution to the OP's original question, I gotta wonder how prevalent

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-26 Thread Tony Thigpen
We actually offer SCRT based pricing, but most of our older customers are licensed for "up to xxx MIPs" or "up to XXX MSUs". (MIPs or MSUs are based on total system size, not LPAR capping.) We also use CPUIDs in our product key. But, I recently had a customer greatly increase their MSUs by

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-26 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:00 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote: > I license my VSE software to customers based on their cpu capacity. In the > past, I have trusted my customers, but recently, I have had two customers > give 'inaccurate' information. I want to add code to my product

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-26 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 4/25/2016 10:00 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote: I license my VSE software to customers based on their cpu capacity. In the past, I have trusted my customers, but recently, I have had two customers give 'inaccurate' information. I want to add code to my product software key to validate either the

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-26 Thread Steve Austin
I used the C interface, IWMQVS, to SYSEVENT QVS on VSE. -- This e-mail message has been scanned and cleared by Google Message Security and the UNICOM Global security systems. This message is for the named person's use only. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and notify

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-26 Thread Martin Packer
Maybe Marna and I should record a podcast item on BCPii enablement and what it buys you. Trouble is I know LITTLE about it. :-) Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter /

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-25 Thread Mike Schwab
I saw a paper a couple of months ago (I can't find it right now). It related the experience of an insurance company migrating to a z13. The performance tables indicated it should handle the workload, but it was pegged at 100% and not meeting goals. They upgraded a little bit, and the relief from

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-25 Thread Tony Thigpen
I license my VSE software to customers based on their cpu capacity. In the past, I have trusted my customers, but recently, I have had two customers give 'inaccurate' information. I want to add code to my product software key to validate either the capacity setting or max MSUs. I asked for

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-25 Thread Edward Finnell
I thought there was a Rexx exec on Eric Loriaux's home page, but has gone AWOL. Maybe PLANET MVS, but it's expired. Not a fun adventure. Thought for sure we'd hashed this out before. In a message dated 4/25/2016 7:02:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, walt.farr...@gmail.com writes: I think

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-25 Thread Pinnacle
On 4/25/2016 3:37 PM, Mark Zelden wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 15:19:10 -0400, Pinnacle wrote: On 4/25/2016 2:13 PM, Mark Zelden wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 13:09:10 -0500, John McKown wrote: On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Tony

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-25 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 19:28:28 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote: >I want to know if the box is an A01, M04, etc. I think that others are hinting that may not be a meaningful question. Why do you want to know, and what use do you plan to make of the information? -- Walt

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-25 Thread Charles Mills
What is your programming environment? In what language are you querying? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 4:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: can a

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-25 Thread Tony Thigpen
I want to know if the box is an A01, M04, etc. Tony Thigpen Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote on 04/25/2016 07:20 PM: Sorry, but I thought that Tony was asking what the processor was configured as. For example our z114 is a S02 model, but configured down to a Q02. I guess the question is a little

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-25 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
Sorry, but I thought that Tony was asking what the processor was configured as. For example our z114 is a S02 model, but configured down to a Q02. I guess the question is a little ambiguous, I read it as, how is the hardware configured, regardless to any WLM settings. Al Nims Systems

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-25 Thread Steve Beaver
The command you are suggesting does NOT tell you the MIPS only the MODEL and it does not Tell you if the LPAR has been soft or hard capped Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Nims,Alva John (Al) Sent: Monday,

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-25 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
#1. MVS Command; D m=CPU CPC ND = 002818.M05.IBM.02.000CFD96 CPC SI = 2818.Q02.IBM.02.000CFD96 Model: M05 #2. Mark's MVS Utilities, IPLINFO program: http://mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Which can also be used as a function call in REXX x = IPLINFO(VAR,

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 15:19:10 -0400, Pinnacle wrote: >On 4/25/2016 2:13 PM, Mark Zelden wrote: >> On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 13:09:10 -0500, John McKown >> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote:

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-25 Thread Pinnacle
On 4/25/2016 2:13 PM, Mark Zelden wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 13:09:10 -0500, John McKown wrote: On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote: Is there a way for a program to check the capacity setting for a processor? For instance,

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-25 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 4/25/2016 11:09 AM, John McKown wrote: On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote: Is there a way for a program to check the capacity setting for a processor? For instance, are we running on a A01 or a w04, etc. processor? -- Tony Thigpen ​What OS? Hardware

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-25 Thread Charles Mills
CSRSI has this, right? https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieaa100/CSRSI_System_information_service.htm (@Tony, great meeting you in person!) Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 13:09:10 -0500, John McKown wrote: >On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote: > >> Is there a way for a program to check the capacity setting for a >> processor? For instance, are we running on a A01 or a w04, etc.

Re: can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-25 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote: > Is there a way for a program to check the capacity setting for a > processor? For instance, are we running on a A01 or a w04, etc. processor? > -- > Tony Thigpen > ​What OS? Hardware wise, there is STIDP. But it requires

can a program determine the capacity setting of a z-box?

2016-04-25 Thread Tony Thigpen
Is there a way for a program to check the capacity setting for a processor? For instance, are we running on a A01 or a w04, etc. processor? -- Tony Thigpen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send