Wednesday, December 20, 2006, 12:28:21 PM, Len Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Martin. That is on my list as well. In our case, we can have the
website go down for a while and people don't say much. But take away their
email and things get ugly... :o
LC [Snip]
LC Assuming the disk is
, December 20, 2006 2:48 PM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Backup Mail Server
Thanks for your comments. So does this mean that we would do away with
mail2.ourdomain.com?
is that your backup mailserver and backup MX? the backup mail server
shouldn't
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Doherty
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 6:13 PM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Backup Mail Server
Hi Todd-
The way you are set up, it seems you will accept all mail, including
Subject: AW: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Backup Mail Server
Hi,
We have also a warm backup server. Some scripts in combination with a small
piece of backup software are synchronizing both machines every 30 Minutes.
In case of emergency, i have to switch manually, e.g. Changing the NAT on
the firewall
I have my IMail server as my backup MX, I have IMGate as my primary MX ... I
just blocked port 25 at the firewall for the IMail server. If my IMGate
when down I could just unblock port 25 and the IMail would start to
receiving email as the DNS records are already in place. I know my IMail
@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: AW: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Backup Mail Server
Hi,
We have also a warm backup server. Some scripts in combination with a small
piece of backup software are synchronizing both machines every 30 Minutes.
In case of emergency, i have to switch manually, e.g. Changing the NAT
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 10:01 AM
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: AW: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Backup Mail Server
Hi Tood,
I'm not a really fan about using several MX'ses. Lucky we, our network is
always up, in 2006 we had a total downtime of 3 Minuten. So, my idea was
only
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Todd Richards
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Dezember 2006 17:43
An: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Betreff: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Backup Mail Server
Thanks Martin. That is on my list as well. In our
Martin Schaible wrote:
I will share these batch scripts with you guys, but i have to review
everthing and write a small readme. I hope, i will find the time to do this
in between the next fews weeks.
In fact, the scripts are using a bit of reg.exe, robocopy and two scheduled
tasks, so it isn't
Thanks Martin. That is on my list as well. In our case, we can have the
website go down for a while and people don't say much. But take away their
email and things get ugly... :o
I think there are two mail server tactics that will cover the vast
majority of business mail servers.
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Backup Mail Server
Thanks Martin. That is on my list as well. In our case, we can have
the website go down for a while and people don't say much. But take
away their email and things get ugly... :o
I think there are two mail server
Thanks for your comments. So does this mean that we would do away with
mail2.ourdomain.com?
is that your backup mailserver and backup MX? the backup mail server
shouldn't accepting mail until the primary goes down.
I understand all of the benefits that you mention
about a front line
- Original Message -
From: Todd Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Backup Mail Server
Hi Dave -
That is the feeling that I got, that our backup mail server was actually
being used, rather than
Hi Everyone -
We currently have a backup mail server in place. I have a new box that I
want to put in it's place, but before I duplicate it on the new one, I want
to be sure what we have is set up properly.
While looking through the archives, I found a post that said:
snip
A secondary mail
Todd,
I used to recommend backup MX servers in the past, too.
Today, I strongly advice *against* using backup MX servers because:
- Backup MX servers tend to be misconfigured over time
- Backup MX servers are usually more open to spamming (e.g. no recipient
verification, less checks)
- If you
Hi Todd-
The way you are set up, it seems you will accept all mail, including
dictionary attacks, for your domains. Then your backup MX tries to send out
NDRs when the primary rejects the addresses. That is very bad, as it
effectively doubles the volume of the original dictionary attack and
Today, I strongly advice *against* using backup MX servers
because...
I wonder what the general recommendation for backup MX is among the
list members.
My response is that there's a difference between having a warm
backup MX (published, plugged in, but not accepting
.:. SmarterTools
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Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Sanford Whiteman
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Dezember 2006 02:44
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Backup Mail Server
Today, I
: RE: [IMail Forum] Backup mail server when the primary is down
Bob,
I don't thing this is correct, if your secondary mx record box is
outside the firewall and your primary doesn't answer mail requests, the
sending smtp server will know it as nothing will answer the request.
That is unless your
] On Behalf Of Doug Mauer
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 8:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Backup mail server when the primary is down
Bob,
I don't thing this is correct, if your secondary mx record box is
outside the firewall and your primary doesn't answer mail requests, the
sending
Dave at onx dot cc
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Foulks
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Backup mail server when the primary is down
Correct I'm looking
I've been reading in the mail about how to setup a secondary mail server
for when the primary is down. I understand what its saying but was just
wondering something. The book says to setup the secondary as a gateway
and have it store and forward messages for when the primary is down. Is
it not
Greg,
I have been setting up the very same situation, however my mail server
is located behind a firewall which forwards the mail to imailserver. The
backup server is a linux sendmail box located in front of the firewall
because unfortunately my firewall can forward mail to only one server at
a
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Schmalzigan
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 4:03 PM
To: Imail Forum
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Backup mail server when the primary is down
Greg,
I have been setting up the very same situation, however my mail server
is located behind
I have my backup
server set up and ready to test.
The store
forward doc in the knowledgebase is confusing me.
My
primaryImail server has 25 virtual domains, each with the
secondary
mail server
specified in their mx records.
What do I need to do
to the backup server to make sure:
1. it
I have my backup server set up
which sofware?
What do I need to do to the backup server to make sure:
1. it will receive all mail for all domains
tell it to accept mail for those @recipient.domain and then where to relay
it that mail
2. it will poll primary server every x hours to see if it's
] On Behalf Of Len Conrad
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] backup mail server help needed
I have my backup server set up
which sofware?
What do I need to do to the backup server to make sure:
1. it will receive all mail for all domains
tell
What do I need to do to the backup server to make sure:
1. it will receive all mail for all domains
tell it to accept mail for those @recipient.domain and then where to relay
it that mail
IMail u/g explains very clearly how to set up store and forward
Len
See the KB on store and forward or
gateway
Eric S
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From:
info
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 1:03
AM
Subject: [IMail Forum] backup mail
server
How do I setup a second mail
server to collect mail when my
]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of E. Shanbrom
(Ipswitch)Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 9:46 AMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] backup mail
server
See the KB on store and forward or
gateway
Eric S
- Original Message -
From:
info
How do I setup a second mail server to collect mail when my
primary mail server is down and how do I make it deliver the mail that it
collects when the primary server comes back online. Also my primary mail server
have multiple domains.
Thank you,
Ok, I still have plenty of questions:
I'm still running IMail 6, is the setup the same?
The customer's mail server is on a dedicated connection - so the timer
setting doesn't apply?
If I'm running my own DNS, do I still need to make the entry in the hosts list?
If I don't enter a host in IMail
I'm still running IMail 6
then read the imail6 pdf
The customer's mail server is on a dedicated connection - so the timer
setting doesn't apply?
the ( period x retries ) timeout always applies. Imail will receive and
immiediately relay each message to the ip in the hosts file. No need
At 3/29/02 02:26 PM +0100, you wrote:
If I don't enter a host in IMail for the domain, why doesn't IMail reject
the mail?
Imail reads the hosts file to decide whether to accept recipientdomain
for relaying.
When I change the hosts file, do I need to reboot, or does the system read
the file
When I change the hosts file, do I need to reboot
no
, or does the system read the file each time?
I guess Imail reads this file into memory, because it needs the info for
every incoming msg.
How does it know it's not spam?
It doesn't.
That's why I need to setup the IP in the relay for
At 3/29/02 03:01 PM +0100, you wrote:
you have to add their ip to your address list if they are also going to
send their outbound through Imail
But since they have their own mail server/dedicated line, they do their own
sending. All that's necessary for us to provide backup services is the MX
But since they have their own mail server/dedicated line, they do their
own sending.
ok.
All that's necessary for us to provide backup services is the MX record
and a hosts entry? That's not bad.
no
Is hosts used for anything else?
yes, Imail, and most other tcp/ip apps, will use it to
Great! Thanks for helping me understand this better.
Oblio
At 3/29/02 03:34 PM +0100, you wrote:
But since they have their own mail server/dedicated line, they do their
own sending.
ok.
All that's necessary for us to provide backup services is the MX record
and a hosts entry? That's not
Great! Thanks for helping me understand this better.
now go make it work to see if you really understand it
Len
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Backup mail server?
Great! Thanks for helping me understand this better.
now go make it work to see if you really understand it
Len
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http
You never spoon feed your students but rather gently point them to the
solutions using the Socratic methods.
Gently? GENTLY??
LOLOL!
Luv ya Len! :)
Sharyn
We are the worldwide producer and marketer of the award winning Cruzan
Single Barrel Rum, judged Best in the World
Confucious say: She who drink much rum, scribble many question marks! :-)
Todd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sharyn Schmidt
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 10:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Backup mail server
Confucious say: She who drink much rum, scribble many question marks!
:-)
Todd
grin
Cheers!
And Happy Easter to all my Imail Buds :)
Sharyn
We are the worldwide producer and marketer of the award winning Cruzan
Single Barrel Rum, judged Best in the World at the annual
San Francisco Wine
I know this has been asked and answered, but I don't feel like I understand
it. So, I was hoping someone could write a more complete and comprehensive
answer.
How do I configure my mail server to [also] act as a backup to someone
else's? I have accounts setup here, and it acts as a primary
How do I configure my mail server to [also] act as a backup to someone
else's? I have accounts setup here, and it acts as a primary server for
those accounts. How do I *also* provide redundancy for other people's
servers so it responds correctly to their ETRN commands? The key is, I
want
In your 2nd Imail server, SMTP security, relay for ip addresses, add .200
do I need to add the actual IP of the IMAIL1 server or do I need to add each
IP address for each domain 1 through 30?
If there are 30 different ip addresses, then you have to enter each
one, or enter the subnet(s),
I have a quick question? I have about 30 domains on my current server setup
like this:
mx preference = 10 mail.whatever.com xxx.xxx.x.200
mx preference = 20 mail2.whatever.comxxx.xxx.x.80
All the domains mx preference 20 all point to the same IP. I am ready to
setup
turn the mirroring off and backup from the
failover machine). I use it for MS SQL and it works great.
Regards,
Steve
- Original Message -
From: Cal Frye [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 10:58:41 AM
Subject: [IMail Forum] Backup mail
System Administrator
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"When you love what you do...you're alive!"
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cal Frye
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 9:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail For
ove what you do...you're alive!"
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cal Frye
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 9:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Backup mail server
Magdy--
There is no easy or cheap way to do this. T
Hi everybody,
I sent this mail before now. I didnot receive practical solution for my problem.
the case was:
I am an ISP System Administrator, I used Imail v. 6.0 on our Primary mail server which
serve more than 7500 users. Now I need to make a backup mail server for the primary
server to
Magdy--
There is no easy or cheap way to do this. This problem has been
discussed from time to time on the list, but it really is not an IMail
problem :-) IMail does not do peering in this sense of the word. You
have two choices: (1) be prepared to restore system, registry, and
mailboxes from a
I sent this mail before now. I didnot receive
practical solution for my problem.
the case was:
I am an ISP System Administrator, I used Imail v. 6.0 on our Primary mail
server which serve more than 7500 users. Now I need to make a backup mail
server for the primary server to avoid the problems if
rver fails.
-Original Message-
From: Cal Frye [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 8:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Backup mail server
That was not my understanding of what he wanted. I thought he meant a
mirrored system (identical users o
de 2000 06:11
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: Re: [IMail Forum] backup mail server
I have one server running Imail 5.08 and one other running 5.08
so far, I'm following, I think! vbg
my main server one and the other two for discussion purposes. Well this is
what I would like to do, I would
Very interesting your answer. The most clear I ever saw regarding how to
make a safe system.
I have 2 question, regarding of this:
1. Should have S2 all the same like S1 ? I mean, accounts, lists, etc. or
just the service ?
no, emphatically. The s2 machine is only a SMTP relay machine for the
At 06:38 AM 2/29/00 , you wrote:
[SNIP]
For security and performance reasons, I recommend you switch to BIND 8 for
NT. The NT binary is here: ftp://ns4.netpacq.net.
Regards,
Len
What is the URL for the Bind 8 for NT web site?
--
Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
the ftp URL is as it was on my msg and below on this one.
Len
==
At 06:38 AM 2/29/00 , you wrote:
[SNIP]
For security and performance reasons, I recommend you switch to BIND 8
for NT. The NT binary is here: ftp://ns4.netpacq.net.
Regards,
Len
What is the URL for the Bind 8 for
oops, they took that anon site down. If any body is serious/immediate
about BIND for NT, email me privately
Len
=
the ftp URL is as it was on my msg and below on this one.
Len
==
At 06:38 AM 2/29/00 , you wrote:
[SNIP]
For security and performance reasons, I
Forum] backup mail server
the ftp URL is as it was on my msg and below on this one.
Len
==
At 06:38 AM 2/29/00 , you wrote:
[SNIP]
For security and performance reasons, I recommend you switch to BIND 8
for NT. The NT binary is here: ftp://ns4.netpacq.net.
Regards,
Len
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Len Conrad
Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 9:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] backup mail server
Those are commercial sources for BIND. BIND 8.2.2 p5 binary for NT is
free, in public domain, from ISC.org, as has been BIND for Unix. ISC just
doesn't have a binary for NT on their site.
If you have a c compiler on NT, you can compile the BIND source from the
.tgz file, in the contrib
I have one server running Imail 5.08 and one other running 5.08
so far, I'm following, I think! vbg
my main server one and the other two for discussion purposes. Well this is
what I would like to do, I would like to make server two a backup mail
server in the event that I have to reboot #
]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] backup mail server
I have one server running Imail 5.08 and one other running 5.08
so far, I'm following, I think! vbg
my main server one and the other two for discussion purposes. Well this is
what I would like to do, I would like to make server two a backup mail
I have one server running Imail 5.08 and one other running 5.08 I'll call
my main server one and the other two for discussion purposes. Well this is
what I would like to do, I would like to make server two a backup mail
server in the event that I have to reboot # one of if it were to go down
Yes... I would like to know the same thing... I think that I asked this some
time ago and never got an answer...
Please help!!
Jim
- Original Message -
From: "Craig A. Isdahl" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 7:01 PM
Subject: [IMail For
6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] backup mail server
Yes... I would like to know the same thing... I think that I asked this
some
time ago and never got an answer...
Please help!!
Jim
- Original Message -
From: "Craig A. Isdahl" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTEC
Hello Everyone,
I'm interested in knowing what everyone uses as a backup mail
server. Do you get a second copy of iMail or use a
cheaper/shareware/freeware package.
I would appreciate any suggestions on accomplishing the
following...
- provide a backup mail server if the primary iMail
How would I configure IMail to be a backup mail server?
By backup mail server, i mean, the one that is pointed to with a higher
preference number in an MX record.
Thnks,
Jim
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-Original Message-
From: Jim Jones, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 2:26 PM
Subject: [IMail Forum] backup mail server?
How would I configure IMail
:44 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] backup mail server?
Jim,
I assume your first (main) Imail server has the preference number of 0,
right? Then all you need to do is to add another MX record into the DNS
server with the pref. no. of 10 and the name of the server is the backup
Imail server
, 1999 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] backup mail server?
Don't I have to configure something to make it work... If not, I guess that
anyone could use anyone else's email server as a backup... I would think
that would be undesirable.
Jim
- Original Message -
From: Dan Nguyen [EMAIL
.. I would think
that would be undesirable.
Jim
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From: Dan Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 09, 1999 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] backup mail server?
Jim,
I assume your first (main) Imail server has the preference n
Ooops... should not talk on the phone and type at the
same time..
- Original Message -
From: ## Dusty Carden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 09, 1999 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] backup mail server?
primarydomain.com. IN MX IN MX 10
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