Re: [IMail Forum] Queue Listen Pipes

2004-08-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
I had kept my Queue Listen Pipes at the default of 4 for many years, But ever since aggressively using the anti-spam filters I have seen that the amount of time it takes to process an email (check it against 8 spam databases) is taking an long time - sometimes is will be as long as ten

RE: [IMail Forum] Loop back problem

2004-08-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
I have a user that is experiencing what some call a loop back issue. The user receives email with out a problem and then one day he gets the same email over and over again. Anywhere between 20 to 100's of the same email delivered at the same time of day. The first thing to do is check the

Re[4]: [IMail Forum] new reverse DNS not working?

2004-08-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
So I can't understand why DNSStuff can not see it? Learn to use and trust basic tools, not some 3rd-party GUI. Even broken nslookup as a query tool is more trustable than a huge web application. dig is the best DNS query tool. Len, enough with the digs at me (no pun intended G). While it is

RE: [IMail Forum] Outbound Rules Tab Gone

2004-08-21 Thread Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango
In april 28, 2004, I asked why Ipswitch removed the outbound rules tab. I tried to look for the link to the answer in the archives, so you can see first hand the entire thread. But it seems that the files for that date are gone in the archive. Any way, here is the answer given by

Re[5]: [IMail Forum] new reverse DNS not working?

2004-08-21 Thread Sanford Whiteman
There's no such thing as propagation delay in DNS, no matter how many times unknowing, misleading people repeat the phrase DNS propagation. I seem to recall your involvement with these unknowing, misleading people: http://www.menandmice.com/2000/2330_enterprise_bind.html. As

Re: [IMail Forum] new reverse DNS not working?

2004-08-21 Thread Rod Dorman
On Saturday, August 21, 2004, 15:48:22, Sanford Whiteman wrote: ... Vis-a-vis authoritative servers, it refers to the pull replication of zones, taking up to one refresh interval to take effect in toto (barring use of NOTIFY). Vis-a-vis the public Internet, it refers to the pull

Re[2]: [IMail Forum] new reverse DNS not working?

2004-08-21 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Being a pessimist I usually plan for a worst case scenario of refresh interval *plus* TTL even though my current providers secondaries do pay attention to NOTIFYs. I agree. I was just using the assumption here that the official T-time of non-authoritative replication

Re: [IMail Forum] new reverse DNS not working?

2004-08-21 Thread Len Conrad
Being a pessimist I usually plan for a worst case scenario of refresh interval *plus* TTL even though my current providers secondaries do pay attention to NOTIFYs. The NOTIFY RFC goes back several years and has been the predominant mode of zone refresh for as long, in all the major DNS

Re[5]: [IMail Forum] new reverse DNS not working?

2004-08-21 Thread Len Conrad
I seem to recall your involvement with these unknowing, misleading people: http://www.menandmice.com/2000/2330_enterprise_bind.html. As apparent via Google search, DNS propagation has widely understood meaningsinbothpublic (non-authoritative) and private (authoritative)

Re[4]: [IMail Forum] new reverse DNS not working?

2004-08-21 Thread Len Conrad
While it is indeed good to use and trust basic tools, it is very poor manners to badmouth things without any evidence of a problem. There was no bad mouthing, and no reference in my post to anything about you. My recommendation was about not trusting complex (remote) GUI tools, when simple

Re[6]: [IMail Forum] new reverse DNS not working?

2004-08-21 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Whatever MM does has nothing to do with my post about propagation. Your world-renowned, subject-matter-expert employer uses the term you decry as the choice of unknowing, misleading people. If you can't stop them from using it, you obviously can't expect less expert people to

Re: [IMail Forum] new reverse DNS not working?

2004-08-21 Thread Rod Dorman
On Saturday, August 21, 2004, 16:58:18, Len Conrad wrote: Being a pessimist I usually plan for a worst case scenario of refresh interval *plus* TTL even though my current providers secondaries do pay attention to NOTIFYs. The NOTIFY RFC goes back several years and has been the predominant

Re[4]: [IMail Forum] new reverse DNS not working?

2004-08-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
While it is indeed good to use and trust basic tools, it is very poor manners to badmouth things without any evidence of a problem. There was no bad mouthing, and no reference in my post to anything about you. My recommendation was about not trusting complex (remote) GUI tools, when simple

Re: [IMail Forum] new reverse DNS not working?

2004-08-21 Thread x
R. Scott Perry wrote: So if you think nslookup is broken, let us know why. If you think www.dnsstuff.com -- probably the most trusted DNS site on the Internet -- is not completely trustable, say why. And before you say it, the DNS report portion misleads people into thinking small problems

Re: [IMail Forum] new reverse DNS not working?

2004-08-21 Thread x
Sanford Whiteman wrote: Your presentation of how propagation is used in common parlance is incomplete. It is widely used to describe replication delays for both zone transfers and cached records. We hear it used equally in reference to A, MX, and NS records. You can verify this

Re[2]: [IMail Forum] new reverse DNS not working?

2004-08-21 Thread Sanford Whiteman
The word is used liberaly all over the place. Make a DNS change and listen to your registrar and/or your ISP tell you that the changes may take 24-72 hours for propagation to take place. I don't think you meant to address this reply to me, didja? Yours are my points as well: that the

Re: [IMail Forum] new reverse DNS not working?

2004-08-21 Thread x
Sanford Whiteman wrote: The word is used liberaly all over the place. Make a DNS change and listen to your registrar and/or your ISP tell you that the changes may take 24-72 hours for propagation to take place. I don't think you meant to address this reply to me, didja? Yours are my points

Re: [IMail Forum] new reverse DNS not working?

2004-08-21 Thread Rod Dorman
On Saturday, August 21, 2004, 21:03:04, Sanford Whiteman wrote: ... Len's point to the contrary is that, if (mis)taken at its dictionary, non-IT meaning, propagation is a myth--since it would then imply an outgoing, push broadcast from the domain/record owner--and so using the term

Re: [IMail Forum] new reverse DNS not working?

2004-08-21 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: Rod Dorman IMHO propagation is the wrong term altogether irregardless of what definition one attributes to it. The real question is When will all the incorrect cached values die off? Okay, just to poke a little fun at this whole thread (from American

Re: [IMail Forum] new reverse DNS not working?

2004-08-21 Thread Brian P. Mann
On Saturday 21 August 2004 10:35 pm, Bill Landry wrote: Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead. I ain't gonna! Now, excuse me while I go unthaw some chicken. *grin* Brian To Unsubscribe:

Re[4]: [IMail Forum] new reverse DNS not working?

2004-08-21 Thread Len Conrad
I'm still not sure why you recommend not trusting complex (remote) GUI tools. simpler is always better. Simpler and LOCAL to my machine is best. Complex (remote) GUI tools (what most people just call web tools) have one significant advantage over simple (local) tools -- they avoid local

Re[2]: [IMail Forum] new reverse DNS not working?

2004-08-21 Thread Pete McNeil
On Saturday, August 21, 2004, 10:35:51 PM, Bill wrote: snip/ BL Okay, just to poke a little fun at this whole thread (from American Heritage BL www.bartleby.com www.dictionary.com): BL Usage Note: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be BL correct usage in formal style, when