Re: [IMail Forum] Should IMail have its own server?

2001-04-03 Thread Christopher Ulrich

We run it with just IMail on it.  Web server applications (IIS) may or may not
use a lot of resources depending on the traffic and the content (streaming
video vs. static HTML).  If you can , try to use a separate machine.

While 512MB of memory is good, I don't think that is the solution to
spam against open relays on your server.  The solution is to close the open
relays.  I'm not the best person to comment on how to do this, but I'm
sure you will receive some feedback on it.  You should also look through
older threads for that topic.



At 11:07 AM 4/3/2001, you wrote:
We are running IMail on a server with a handful of other programs.  We're
running IIS and hosting web pages as well as running web trends software.
The server is a PIII 650.  It used to have 256K mem, but we increased it to
512K because people were spamming from our servers and all the smtp
processes would use up remaining memory and crash the server.  Some of our
clients use large email lists and we expect more clients to request this
service.  In general, should IMail have its own dedicated server, with
minimal other processes running on it?

Thanks-
Shane


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RE: [IMail Forum] Should IMail have its own server?

2001-04-03 Thread Shane Greer

Forgot to mention...we turned off relay for all.  It will only relay for our
servers IP address, which stopped the spammers.

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We run it with just IMail on it.  Web server applications (IIS) may or may
not
use a lot of resources depending on the traffic and the content (streaming
video vs. static HTML).  If you can , try to use a separate machine.

While 512MB of memory is good, I don't think that is the solution to
spam against open relays on your server.  The solution is to close the open
relays.  I'm not the best person to comment on how to do this, but I'm
sure you will receive some feedback on it.  You should also look through
older threads for that topic.



At 11:07 AM 4/3/2001, you wrote:
We are running IMail on a server with a handful of other programs.  We're
running IIS and hosting web pages as well as running web trends software.
The server is a PIII 650.  It used to have 256K mem, but we increased it to
512K because people were spamming from our servers and all the smtp
processes would use up remaining memory and crash the server.  Some of our
clients use large email lists and we expect more clients to request this
service.  In general, should IMail have its own dedicated server, with
minimal other processes running on it?

Thanks-
Shane


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Re: [IMail Forum] Should IMail have its own server?

2001-04-03 Thread bobf

Yes, without a doubt, give Imail it's own server...

 service.  In general, should IMail have its own dedicated server, with
 minimal other processes running on it?
 
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RE: [IMail Forum] Should IMail have its own server?

2001-04-03 Thread C. Lee Smith

Assuming you have only one primary server, the best reason for having it on
a separate machine is if that primary server goes down, your users can still
email to alert you. This point may be moot if you subscribe to a server
monitoring service, however.

We had a similar issue with spammers using open relays during the Christmas
holiday. More info on mail replay options can be found at:
http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-19980116-JB02.htm

Lee


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Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Should IMail have its own server?


We run it with just IMail on it.  Web server applications (IIS) may or may
not
use a lot of resources depending on the traffic and the content (streaming
video vs. static HTML).  If you can , try to use a separate machine.

While 512MB of memory is good, I don't think that is the solution to
spam against open relays on your server.  The solution is to close the open
relays.  I'm not the best person to comment on how to do this, but I'm
sure you will receive some feedback on it.  You should also look through
older threads for that topic.



At 11:07 AM 4/3/2001, you wrote:
We are running IMail on a server with a handful of other programs.  We're
running IIS and hosting web pages as well as running web trends software.
The server is a PIII 650.  It used to have 256K mem, but we increased it to
512K because people were spamming from our servers and all the smtp
processes would use up remaining memory and crash the server.  Some of our
clients use large email lists and we expect more clients to request this
service.  In general, should IMail have its own dedicated server, with
minimal other processes running on it?

Thanks-
Shane


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Re: [IMail Forum] Should IMail have its own server?

2001-04-03 Thread Peter Salvage

 Yes, without a doubt, give Imail it's own server...

  service.  In general, should IMail have its own dedicated server, with
  minimal other processes running on it?

Depends...if the msg load isn't too heavy, you can always run Primary DNS
service on the mail box as well. I wouldn't run anything else, but it can
actually shorten DNS resolution times if DNS is run on the same box.
Nameservers don't have much of a "footprint" anyway.

/wiZZ


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Re: [IMail Forum] Should IMail have its own server?

2001-04-03 Thread Scott Perry

 The server is a PIII 650.  It used to have 256K mem, but we
 increased it to 512K because people were spamming from our servers
 and all the smtp processes would use up remaining memory and crash
 the server.

Wow!  A lot of people offer free E-mail service to spammers, while charging their good 
customers (they run an open relay).  But it's unusual to find a company willing to buy 
new hardware for their free spammer clients.

I'd suggest that you use the IMail "Relay for Addresses" option, along with SMTP AUTH 
for anyone that won't come from a known safe IP address.

 In general, should IMail have its own dedicated server, with
 minimal other processes running on it?

I would strongly recommend it, especially if you are going to have a number of mailing 
lists.  Although technically there shouldn't be a problem running many programs on one 
machine, in reality the chances of problems increase for every extra program running 
on the server.


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RE: [IMail Forum] Should IMail have its own server?

2001-04-03 Thread Andrew P. Kaplan

 The server is a PIII 650.  It used to have 256K mem, but we
 increased it to 512K because people were spamming from our servers
 and all the smtp processes would use up remaining memory and crash
 the server.

Setup IMGate and ofload all your outgoing mail to this box. For the price of
2 128 meg sticks you could probably buy a second-hand pentium/64megs of
memory. Plus you would get better protection against the spammers.

Andrew P. Kaplan, CNE, MCSE+Internet, MCT, CCNA, CCDA
CyberShore, Inc. -- Premium Internet Services -- http://www.cshore.com

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been sufficient reason to remain ashore  Intrepid spirits seek victory
over those things that seem impossible...to meet the shadowy future without
fear and conquer the unknown.
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 Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Should IMail have its own server?


  The server is a PIII 650.  It used to have 256K mem, but we
  increased it to 512K because people were spamming from our servers
  and all the smtp processes would use up remaining memory and crash
  the server.

 Wow!  A lot of people offer free E-mail service to spammers,
 while charging their good customers (they run an open relay).
 But it's unusual to find a company willing to buy new hardware
 for their free spammer clients.

 I'd suggest that you use the IMail "Relay for Addresses" option,
 along with SMTP AUTH for anyone that won't come from a known safe
 IP address.

  In general, should IMail have its own dedicated server, with
  minimal other processes running on it?

 I would strongly recommend it, especially if you are going to
 have a number of mailing lists.  Although technically there
 shouldn't be a problem running many programs on one machine, in
 reality the chances of problems increase for every extra program
 running on the server.


 --
   -Scott

 Declude: Anti-virus and Anti-spam solutions for IMail.
http://www.declude.com
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