[Jmol-users] Symmetry error when loading quartz.cif

2010-10-22 Thread Julian Mecklenburgh
Hi, I am fairly new to using Jmol and find it great tool for showing undergrad students 3D images of crystal structure. I have found that when I load a cif file of quartz using the following command: load /*file*/ quartz.cif {3 3 3}; I do not get the correct structure. Jmol seems to put

[Jmol-users] strange behaviour

2010-10-22 Thread Mio_libero
Hi people, i tried to use my page http://pinostriccoli.altervista.org/?page_id=873 with JME sending the code to JMOL. When drawing a simple cyclohexane, i have a planar ring with the C6H12 formula. When i put a substituent on the ring, it becomes as a cyclohexan should be in chair

Re: [Jmol-users] [Jmol-developers] Worrying news for Mac users!

2010-10-22 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Rzepa, Henry h.rz...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/21/apple_threatens_to_kill_java_on_the_mac/ As of the release of Java for Mac OS X 10.6 Update 3, the version of Java that is ported by Apple, and that ships with Mac OS X, is

Re: [Jmol-users] [Jmol-developers] Worrying news for Mac users!

2010-10-22 Thread Rzepa, Henry
At 11:24 +0100 22/10/10, Egon Willighagen wrote: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Rzepa, Henry h.rz...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/21/apple_threatens_to_kill_java_on_the_mac/ As of the release of Java for Mac OS X 10.6 Update 3, the version of Java that is

Re: [Jmol-users] [Jmol-developers] Worrying news for Mac users!

2010-10-22 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Rzepa, Henry h.rz...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: http://lists.apple.com/archives/Java-dev/2010/Oct/msg00248.html That expresses future aspirations, rather than testable reality.  There is nothing for OS X  at http://openjdk.java.net/ You can find instructions

Re: [Jmol-users] strange behaviour

2010-10-22 Thread Otis Rothenberger
Hi Pino, Your problem is the following: jmolLoadInlineScript( gid('editor').molFile()... If you change .molFile to .jmeFile() it should load properly: jmolLoadInlineScript( gid('editor').jmeFile()... The minimize function in Jmol is very useful, but sometimes is gets stuck in energy

Re: [Jmol-users] strange behaviour

2010-10-22 Thread Mio_libero
Thanks Otis, it works good now ... really thanks. Pino Il 22/10/2010 15.39, Otis Rothenberger ha scritto: Hi Pino, Your problem is the following: jmolLoadInlineScript( gid('editor').molFile()... If you change .molFile to .jmeFile() it should load properly: jmolLoadInlineScript(

Re: [Jmol-users] strange behaviour

2010-10-22 Thread Angel Herráez
This is interesting and intriguing... What is the reason why Jmol minimizes correctly the model coming from JME string but not the MOL string? As I said, I'm quite confident this is only a cyclohexane problem. -- Nokia

Re: [Jmol-users] strange behaviour

2010-10-22 Thread Angel Herráez
Ha, ha I think I remember that Bob implemented something to get preferentially the chair conformation when the JME string was loaded (and to automatically add hydrogens and run minimize). That is JME- input-specific, and so does not apply to MOLdata. But try and see what happens when you draw

Re: [Jmol-users] strange behaviour

2010-10-22 Thread Otis Rothenberger
Hi Angel and Pino, Bob can speak to this better than I can, but as we worked on the use of Jmol with JME, Bob made some specific 3D fixes - e.g. cyclohexane/substituted cyclohexanes/alkynes. One sure route to these fixes is the jme file load route. Although it's not in the documentation that

Re: [Jmol-users] strange behaviour

2010-10-22 Thread Angel Herráez
Thanks, Otis. You're right. There is some doc about the filters, particularly for JME strings, in http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/File_formats/Chemical_Structure#JME I don't think I collated this info for MOLfiles.

Re: [Jmol-users] strange behaviour

2010-10-22 Thread Giuseppe Stavole
That's right ... it works. I've just tried the Pino's page and the raw way from the jme example page. I didn't know was possible to load the .jme file directly in jmol, they are loaded immediately in 3D with all the sobstituent and with the right number of bond. I think it is quite amazing and

[Jmol-users] Jmol in Joomla

2010-10-22 Thread Mio_libero
Hi all, today i tried and installed Jmol in Joomla. It's work and i hope it will work in next days jmetojmol so i can use joomla for websites. It takes always a bit of time with java. The real problem, at least for me, is that in many templates php and html are written together ...

Re: [Jmol-users] Symmetry error when loading quartz.cif

2010-10-22 Thread Robert Hanson
Julian, it's a bug in the CIF reader. A fixed version is at http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-12/Jmol-12.zip Bob ps; The basic problem, for the record, was this: There are two CIF terms that introduce symmetry operators: _space_group_symop_operation_xyz, and