This is getting annoying and I believe, criminal!
Yeah, this list seems to be infected with bozos. Time for a moderator.
Bob Foster
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the orionserver site has some impressive (almost unbelievable) benchmark
comparisons(http://www.orionserver.com/benchmarks/benchmark.html) against
ServletExec
Haven't seen them, but it wouldn't take much to beat current JSP
implementations.
I suspect that they're achieving such a large
Known bug. They're working on an update, I hear.
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FAQs on JSP can be found at:
Michael Hu wrote:
Connection attributes don't belong in the query tag, definitely. I would
argue connections (and query select statements) also don't belong in JSP
pages. Sorta orthogonal.
Then how do you propose to implement commit and rollback in JSP pages?
Bob Foster
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David Navas [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I'm pretty sure this time) wrote:
That said, I think commit and rollback don't belong in JSP pages.
Wherever they belong, the issue is ensuring that all database actions
involved in a commit use the same connection reference.
Bob Foster
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Java Live! chat on Aug 24th with [JSP authors] at 11am PDT
Not exactly prime time for developers!
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Are there any implementations of JSP that don't require the webserver to
be restarted every time a change is made to an external bean or class?
This is a _major_ problem...
WebSphere.
Bob Foster
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I will generate revenue through my site, by way of ads...is having a
banner on my site make me a comercial organization?
Not if you offer free ads.
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...Was trying to make a comparison of how...JSP implementations
differ in the way [output] HTML is [buffered]...
This issue was resolved in JSP 1.0, which allows you to explicitly specify
how buffering is done. See the spec.
(If you're shipping today - other than with JRun, which supports 1.0 -
If anyone else thinks it is a good idea [FAQ at end of each message]...
I assume you mean the URL of the FAQ, not the text. Great idea!
Really, this list has gotten to be too much "I just tried JSP for the first
time and (this doesn't work/how do you do x)". No problem with helping
newcomers,
I was wondering if I could run JSP on PWS. Does anyone know?
I'm doing it with WebSphere. I believe JRun works with PWS, as well.
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I'm interested in the custom tag possibilities...
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/techinfo.html
This is the first draft of the JSP 1.1 spec.
Bob Foster
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In JSP 1.0/1.1, neither setProperty nor getProperty have any provision
for indexed properties.
Hans Bergsten wrote:
I don't agree. In the JSP 1.0 spec, indexed properties are mentioned
explicitly for setProperty. The description could be clearer, but I know the
intention was to support
public void setFoo(int index, String value)
or even something like:
public void setFoo(String[] values)
..and expect jsp:setProperty to "do the right thing" and supply me with
getParameterValues("foo").
In JSP 1.0/1.1, neither setProperty nor getProperty have any provision for
indexed
There is nothing open about ASP. But there are a couple of companies with
ASP implementations that will run outside windows.
"ASP For Unix Available from 2 Vendors
Halclyon and Chilisoft provide ASP for UNIX"
From http://www.activeserverpages.com/aspmagazine/issue8aspforunix.asp.
Bob Foster
The original "problem" was that the user set a quantity and did a POST. The
user-visible result of the POST was evidently to redisplay the same page.
Then the user changed a quantity and instead of hitting the submit button
again, hit the back button. After going through the awkward but
I haven't done this, but I'm guessing the amount of work to convert depends a
whole lot on whether the app is written like JSP pages (pretty easy) or like
servlets (can be very hard). The ASP apps I've seen, and MS's examples, are more
like servlets and seem like they would be easier to rewrite
so how come it doesn't work?
Other readers say it does, at least with the 1.0 reference implementation.
Haven't tried it myself.
is there a newer [JSP spec]?
The paragraph is in the final spec, downloadable from
http://java.sun.com/jsp.
Personally, I wouldn't use the beanName syntax, but
Which is the code to be added to the JSP file for a *.dtd file calling?
At first glance, this looks like an XML question, not a JSP question. An
example from the XML standard:
?xml version="1.0"?
!DOCTYPE greeting SYSTEM "hello.dtd"
greetingHello, world!/greeting
Where "hello.dtd" is the URI
The current situation is that JSP 1.0 engines are _not_ required to support
the XML syntax. Even if they do support it, they are not required to
support XML syntax like jsp:scriptlet anywhere but in documents that are
entirely XML-format.
The leading JSP webserver vendors can speak for
That URL worked fine for me using IE 5.0. I have lots of other problems
with IE 5 but none that seem to be JSP-specific.
Bob Foster
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Subject: JSP's failure with
I don't believe there is. At least, a quick search on "version" in the
public draft 1 didn't find one.
Your question/comment should probably be seen by jsp-comments, so I've
copied them on this reply.
Bob Foster
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Maybe we should add a third list:
3) Frustration with other two lists, complaining about lack of digests,
wading through useless garbage.
;-}
Seriously, a digest would be nice.
Bob Foster
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] behavior
from the browser not JSP engine.
From: Foster Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Use of out.println () for %=
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 16:10:08 -0700
The reference implementation uses out.println() for JSP expressions, e.g.,
test e
The FAQ is actually at http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.html.
The below cited URL is a slow-loading home page.
Otherwise, FAQ is interesting and helpful! Many thanks Richard!
How can people contribute?
Bob Foster
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Whether to retain the tags is your decision, but moving them to the jsp
namespace is questionable. Unless you have advance knowledge these tags
will appear in a future version of JSP, you should put them in your own
namespace and allow developers to include a taglib directive specifying
your
Why have a taglib directive if there is no standard for tag extensions?
Obviously it's there because some JSP implementors were planning to
introduce their own non-standard tags (heck, they already have) and/or
wanted to jump the gun on extendable tag libraries.
This is a tricky situation,
The reference implementation uses out.println() for JSP expressions, e.g.,
test expr [%=abc"%]
translates to something like:
out.write("test expr [");
out.println("abc");
out.write("]\r\n");
This appears in a browser as:
test expr [abc ]
Note space
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Subject: Use of out.println () for %=
The reference implementation uses out.println() for JSP expressions, e.g.,
t
Since we haven't seen any details on tag extensions, I guess I'll have to
take your word that they're powerful.
But I think without any further details I can take issue with the notion
that extending the "tag language" with application-specific verbs is an
improvement over calling reusable
the whole
job. That can't be that sacreligious. For example:
jsp:useBean id='customers' class='com.bobfoster.Customers'
ol
% for (int row = 1; row customers.size(); row++) { %
li
% out.println(custName.getCustName(row)); } %
/ol
or something along those lines.
Dan
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Yes, I like it, too.
Bob
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Subject: Re: The JSP 1.0 Specification is now in Public Review!
Author: Nic Wise [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Internet
Date:
Seems to me what you are doing wrong is allowing unguarded access to a page
you think should be accessible only after login. Suppose the user gets to
http://server/path/to/ProtectedPage.html by accident? Or by hacking around?
I don't think depending on paths being "secret" is much security.
I'm hoping they are more ambitious than that.
Bob
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Subject: Re: UptoDate Info on JSP Needed
Author: Gabriel Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Internet
Date:
Interesting. I hope when JSP 1.0 comes out, ESP will not be just
"reminiscent of JSP" but conformant to JSP. :)
Bob Foster
Symantec Internet Tools
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