Re: [Kicad-developers] Survey: what is the oldest PC machine that you currently use to work/develop?

2015-10-14 Thread Bernhard Stegmaier
If that is a "quite painful experience"... I am still using KiCad on some old D510 Atom board (only with integrated grahpics, 4GB RAM, Debian) on my bench. You won't probably do real development with it, but it is more than enough to view PCBs while soldering/debugging/etc... Regards,

Re: [Kicad-developers] Survey: what is the oldest PC machine that you currently use to work/develop?

2015-10-14 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 08:54:42AM +, Mário Luzeiro wrote: > 10y old laptop: core2duo, 1.6GHz, Intel GM945, 1200x800 [quite painful > experience] Hey, like my panasonic! Except it's 1024x768 and they still make them (more or less, the 'mark' on a model often is *very* different in chip

Re: [Kicad-developers] suggested resolution (and other specs)

2015-10-14 Thread Andy Peters
> On Oct 13, 2015, at 11:53 PM, Marco Ciampa wrote: > > Apart from reporting problems on this or that combination of graphic > libraries and/or platforms and/or OS, I think that is missing a page with > the minimum requirements, like this: > >

Re: [Kicad-developers] Survey: what is the oldest PC machine that you currently use to work/develop?

2015-10-14 Thread Andy Peters
> On Oct 14, 2015, at 1:54 AM, Mário Luzeiro wrote: > > Hello all, > since you are all talking about specs to run kicad... > Just let you know some time ago I made a small survey [1] in two electronic > forum asking what are the oldest PC machine that people are still using in

[Kicad-developers] Survey: what is the oldest PC machine that you currently use to work/develop?

2015-10-14 Thread Mário Luzeiro
Hello all, since you are all talking about specs to run kicad... Just let you know some time ago I made a small survey [1] in two electronic forum asking what are the oldest PC machine that people are still using in their projects. Here is a list of that old machines: 10y old laptop: core2duo,

Re: [Kicad-developers] suggested resolution (and other specs)

2015-10-14 Thread David Godfrey
While we are talking about graphics Has any testing been done within Virtual Machines? I believe we should support win/lin/mac hosts running VirtualBox, VMware, Parallels and at least linux as a guest. Also Xen should be supported. In my specific case, I am moving (all be it slowly) to

Re: [Kicad-developers] suggested resolution (and other specs)

2015-10-14 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 04:30:42PM +0800, David Godfrey wrote: > Has any testing been done within Virtual Machines? > I believe we should support win/lin/mac hosts running VirtualBox, VMware, > Parallels and at least linux as a guest. > Also Xen should be supported. Good luck having OpenGL

Re: [Kicad-developers] [kicad-website] Licensing addition - need agreement (#78)

2015-10-14 Thread Thor-Arne
I approve From: Marek Roszko Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 9:03 PM To: KiCad/kicad-website Cc: Thor-Arne Subject: [kicad-website] Licensing addition - need agreement (#78) We need to license the website to match the kicad documentation. https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-doc This means it

Re: [Kicad-developers] suggested resolution (and other specs)

2015-10-14 Thread Marco Ciampa
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 08:53:32AM +0200, Marco Ciampa wrote: > Apart from reporting problems on this or that combination of graphic > libraries and/or platforms and/or OS, I think that is missing a page with > the minimum requirements, like this: > >

Re: [Kicad-developers] suggested resolution (and other specs)

2015-10-14 Thread Mark Roszko
I really think Pentium compatible is horrible terminology ever since Intel absolutely destroyed the name and now theres old generation I3s rebranded as Pentiums. Also a Pentium 3 probably can't be used with any of the required video cards. I personally would remove Windows XP. It is a dead and

Re: [Kicad-developers] suggested resolution (and other specs)

2015-10-14 Thread Ian Woloschin
I had been running KiCad nightlies in a VMWare Windows 7 Guest on top of OS X about a year ago. It worked pretty well, no major issues. I blamed the occasional slowness to VM wonkiness and didn't let it bother me too much. I eventually switched to OS X native KiCad after I was able to get it to

Re: [Kicad-developers] suggested resolution (and other specs)

2015-10-14 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 14.10.2015 um 08:53 schrieb Marco Ciampa: > Apart from reporting problems on this or that combination of graphic > libraries and/or platforms and/or OS, I think that is missing a page with > the minimum requirements The minimum required system is a computer running an operating system, isn't

Re: [Kicad-developers] Steps to migrate projects from BZR4022 to 4.0.0

2015-10-14 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
This is certainly more comprehensive than our migration guile but he left out the one step that trips up users with translated layer names. That is the one thing we do have documented in our migration guide. I'm not opposed to asking the person who wrote this if they would be OK with integrating

Re: [Kicad-developers] RC1 terminology on the website

2015-10-14 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 10/13/2015 3:49 PM, Adam Wolf wrote: > Hi folks, > > I ran into a user today who was calling RC1 the new stable and was glad > it had "finally come out". I was a little panicked! That's kind of scarey. Do people not understand what RC means? Unfortunately, I'm not sure there is much we can

Re: [Kicad-developers] suggested resolution (and other specs)

2015-10-14 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
This seems like something we should have on our website although I'm not really sure what the practical lower limits would be. I personally am not interested in trying to get KiCad to work on 800x600 displays. If you want to spend you time trying to achieve this, by all means have at it. I

Re: [Kicad-developers] suggested resolution (and other specs)

2015-10-14 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 10/14/2015 1:44 PM, Andy Peters wrote: > >> On Oct 13, 2015, at 11:53 PM, Marco Ciampa wrote: >> >> Apart from reporting problems on this or that combination of graphic >> libraries and/or platforms and/or OS, I think that is missing a page with >> the minimum requirements,

Re: [Kicad-developers] suggested resolution (and other specs)

2015-10-14 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 01:30:27PM +0200, Markus Hitter wrote: > Nah, I have a similar graphics (G33) and it works just fine. With > software-OpenGL even in OpenGL mode. Maybe some simple board, but some 0.1 mm track-to-track 4 side board will make you suffer... unless of course you feel it's ok

Re: [Kicad-developers] RC1 terminology on the website

2015-10-14 Thread Adam Wolf
Thanks Wayne! I prepared some changes for the website team to hopefully make the download page wording clearer. (By the way, the new website seems to be even more gorgeous than before... amazing work folks!) Adam Wolf Cofounder and Engineer W On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Wayne Stambaugh

Re: [Kicad-developers] suggested resolution (and other specs)

2015-10-14 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 08:47:06AM -0400, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > not interested in trying to get KiCad to work on 800x600 displays. If > you want to spend you time trying to achieve this, by all means have at > it. I would think 1024x768 is reasonable. It would be quite difficult and look