Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]

2015-06-18 Thread Maximilian Doerr
Any ETA when I can SSH back in and restore my bots? Cyberpower678 English Wikipedia Account Creation Team Mailing List Moderator On Jun 18, 2015, at 09:48, Steinsplitter Wiki steinsplitter-w...@live.com wrote: the foundation isn't able to provide a service that works in real life.

Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]

2015-06-18 Thread Steinsplitter Wiki
Toolslabs will be back soon? When approximately? Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 23:09:11 -0400 From: m...@uberbox.org To: abog...@wikimedia.org; labs-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE] On 15-06-17 09:29 PM, Andrew Bogott wrote: Coren is rebooting and

Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]

2015-06-18 Thread Maximilian Doerr
Ich kann weder einloggen oder meine Bot Seiten aufrufen. Hat was hier los ist damit was zum tun? ACC funktioniert auch nicht. Cyberpower678 English Wikipedia Account Creation Team Mailing List Moderator On Jun 18, 2015, at 09:40, Steinsplitter Wiki steinsplitter-w...@live.com wrote:

Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]

2015-06-18 Thread Steinsplitter Wiki
the foundation isn't able to provide a service that works in real life. From: maximilian.do...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 09:47:07 -0400 To: labs-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE] Mist. Ich bekomme wieder beschwerte dass meine Bots schon wieder

Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]

2015-06-18 Thread Martin Domdey
Hey Steini, soll noch mehrere Stunden dauern laut den Technikern ... Gesendet:Donnerstag, 18. Juni 2015 um 14:55 Uhr Von:Steinsplitter Wiki steinsplitter-w...@live.com An:Wikimedia Labs labs-l@lists.wikimedia.org Betreff:Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE] Toolslabs will be back

Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]

2015-06-18 Thread Steinsplitter Wiki
Hat was hier los ist damit was zum tun? ja :( From: maximilian.do...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 09:41:53 -0400 To: labs-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE] Ich kann weder einloggen oder meine Bot Seiten aufrufen. Hat was hier los ist damit was

Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]

2015-06-18 Thread Petr Bena
Kdyz tady bude kazdy mluvit svym jazykem tak si moc nepokecame... To be fair, labs do work - most of the time, and afaik it doesn't have so big budget, so blaming the foundation is not very nice. It was always meant for development. Ops are actually working hard on it to be as much stable as

Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]

2015-06-18 Thread Steinsplitter Wiki
Coren To make things clear; the filesystem backing NFS has suffered from a catastrophic failure. We are currently hard at work restoring a backup that dates from June 9 around 16h UTC. We may be able to provide part of the data at the time of the crash, but it is not certain at this time. -

Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]

2015-06-18 Thread Petr Bena
That is actually not that easy to decide on. The biggest community are wikipedia readers. They don't really care about labs at all. Second biggest community are editors, they don't care so much about labs either. Developer community is not that big and most of money comes from readers. If there

Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]

2015-06-18 Thread Martin Domdey
Isnt it possible, to install a redundant nfs system? Regards, Martin -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail gesendet. Bene* benestar.wikime...@gmail.comschrieb: I think thats exactly the point where WMF is to blame. Labs is apowerful place on which

Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]

2015-06-18 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 18/06/2015 16:03, Bene* a écrit : I think that's exactly the point where WMF is to blame. Labs is a powerful place on which lots of communities rely. We need our bots and tools do work efficiently, otherwise it is hard to do cool things on wikis. So the point is, if it doesn't have so big

Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]

2015-06-18 Thread Bene*
I think that's exactly the point where WMF is to blame. Labs is a powerful place on which lots of communities rely. We need our bots and tools do work efficiently, otherwise it is hard to do cool things on wikis. So the point is, if it doesn't have so big budget this is a big mistake and the

Re: [Labs-l] Possible instance-creation issues in the next couple of hours (long since finished)

2015-06-18 Thread Andrew Bogott
On 6/17/15 10:17 AM, Andrew Bogott wrote: We're about to roll out a few patches that change the instance creation and deletion logic. If all goes well no one will notice the difference, but if there are unexpected bugs then instance creation may fail in the meantime. An update on this

Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]

2015-06-18 Thread Maximilian Doerr
Like people complaining about xTools for example. :p Cyberpower678 English Wikipedia Account Creation Team Mailing List Moderator On Jun 18, 2015, at 10:03, Bene* benestar.wikime...@gmail.com wrote: I think that's exactly the point where WMF is to blame. Labs is a powerful place on which

Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]

2015-06-18 Thread Petr Bena
These are of course just my thoughts. No references to back this :) On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: That is actually not that easy to decide on. The biggest community are wikipedia readers. They don't really care about labs at all. Second biggest community

Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]

2015-06-18 Thread Maximilian Doerr
That means I need to restore my bots. Fortunately, I always keep a local copy. Cyberpower678 English Wikipedia Account Creation Team Mailing List Moderator On Jun 18, 2015, at 10:39, Steinsplitter Wiki steinsplitter-w...@live.com wrote: Coren To make things clear; the filesystem backing

Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]

2015-06-18 Thread Steinsplitter Wiki
Secondbiggest community are editors, they don't care so much about labseither. Of course they care, see complains on dewiki for example. WMF has payed staffers (not volunteers!) and therefore it should be ensured that this highly used service is up. It is down now for hours, complains

Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]

2015-06-18 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 18/06/2015 15:48, Steinsplitter Wiki a écrit : the foundation isn't able to provide a service that works in real life. The labs host most of the continuous integration systems and the whole integration platform. Surely labs has outages from time to time. Most systems in IT do, specially when

Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]

2015-06-18 Thread Maximilian Doerr
Unlikely. Why? Cyberpower678 English Wikipedia Account Creation Team Mailing List Moderator On Jun 18, 2015, at 11:58, Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl wrote: Hi Marc, Marc A. Pelletier schreef op 18-6-2015 om 5:09: Either way, we have a fairly recent (8-9 days) backup of the

Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]

2015-06-18 Thread Maarten Dammers
Hi Marc, Marc A. Pelletier schreef op 18-6-2015 om 5:09: Either way, we have a fairly recent (8-9 days) backup of the entire filesystem so we may be able to recover lost or corrupted files if any turn up. You do daily incremental backups of homedirs on toollabs, right? Please tell me that you

Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]

2015-06-18 Thread Petr Bena
Every bot looks like most useful thing on wikipedia to its creator :P On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Le 18/06/2015 16:03, Bene* a écrit : I think that's exactly the point where WMF is to blame. Labs is a powerful place on which lots of communities

Re: [Labs-l] NFS outage in progress [UPDATE]

2015-06-18 Thread Maarten Dammers
Petr Bena schreef op 18-6-2015 om 17:53: Every bot looks like most useful thing on wikipedia to its creator :P Petr, stop the trolling, not the right time. Maarten ___ Labs-l mailing list Labs-l@lists.wikimedia.org