I do bobbin lace, and needlelace mainly these days, but I have, in the past,
done knitted lace, tatting, macramé, crochet, and Hairpin lace.
Included in the word Needlelace is also filet lace, and the embroidery on
net types (Carrickmacross, and Limerick) with Tambour Lace still on my To-Do
Oops - I forgot to mention my Knotted laces - I do the Eastern Mediterranean
laces, Oya and Bebilla, and have tried Puncetto.
I have done hardanger, too, but I count that more as an embroidery rather
than lace.
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.
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I think the Lace schools taught boys as well as girls, and I seem to
remember the stories (Possibly in Thomas writes book The romance of the Lace
Pillow) that the schools charges 3 pence for girls to be taught, and 6 pence
for boys!!
Also he tells the wonderful story of the boy in Elstow who ran
Vicky, your last message arrived in plain text and was Ok and easy to read.
The previous, repeated, one was more difficult to read!
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Robin, that is terrible. I had it happen once many years ago - and I did
not, in those days, pin down my bobbins! It took a couple of hours to
untangle them. Since then I Always slip them on to knitters stitch
holders!! I learned the hard way!!
Pity there is a broken thread. I hope you can
Julie, I found your article extremely interesting, - and I learned quite a
lot!!
Please keep posting with these Gems. Items like these get overlooked , - or
not looked into at all, and they are just so informative, and help us to
understand what we are looking at, or call by a different name.
Well said Jane. Though I wish some of the lurkers would add their bits to
the conversation occasionally. I am sure they have a lot to offer, and
would enjoy the list even more, perhaps, if they join in.
Ilske your English is excellent, so never let that stop you posting. I hope
you soon get
..who said the she didn't need more bobbins...
Shirley T should know, by now, the difference between Need and Want!! I am
still trying to teach my DH the difference. He refuses to learn - for some
strange reason!!! - especially when there are lace suppliers
anywhere around!!! :)
Now you have me wondering if I am replying correctly!
I get the Lace Digest and Lace Chat Digest and just click on Reply. I
change the address from the panix one to Arachne.com
Should I be clicking on Reply All instead?
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Irene, I will be there at the IOLI convention, so I hope I get to meet you.
When can we expect to hear what class we managed to get in to, and other
information? I am really looking forward to it, and meeting up with old
friends and making new ones. I am hoping to meet some Needlelace Talk
Many years ago, a lady at one of our Lace Days was complaining about there
being nothing in the magazine this time. I said it was probably because
no-one had sent anything in to be printed! Did she ever contribute?
Well!!! --- A very haughty reply of No, of course Not - obviously it was
Far below
Happy Birthdays to both Jean and Agnes.
I hope you both have a Happy Day - even, if it a big number with an 0 at the
end.!!
Mine, this year (May) will have a horrid double number (the one you are
avoiding mentioning, Jean!!)
Why can't we start subtracting numbers instead of adding them on?!!!
Clay that is an amazing piece - how long did it take you to do? Yes,
I know, - I should know better than to ask that question, but perhaps I
should ask when you started it!!
And I got into Flickr easily this time - thank goodness! :)
Alice I love your large circle of lace. That
I don't know how we ever survived without your Thread books, Brenda. It was
very hit or miss (as far as I was concerned!) before your threads books
came out. I thank you constantly for them, as it is always handy and I
usually need to substitute the suggested thread for a project to something I
Hooray! I got in today!
Clay the required name I needed was the 2nd one you mentioned - Youngest
daughter. That worked, and it let me in!!
I also Un-ticked the box for being permanently signed it. It automatically
had a tick in it, so I un-ticked, then answered the question, and Hey
Presto! It
I immediately thought of the Josephine Tey book, too. A great story, - I
must see if the library still has a copy, so I can re read it!
Brother Caedfel stories were Great too.
If the remains ere found near Leicester Cathedral, maybe they own the car
park, so can lay claim to the remains. I
I have changed back to Yahoo - for the moment, anyway,, and it still does
not recognise me! Gr!
I can get in to view the photos OK, but can't make comment or do anything!
It still wants verification.!!! I can copy the distorted letters numbers,
but I don't know what answers to give for
I went in to see Janice's Lester lace - which is wonderful, Janice. Well
done. You did the gimped veins beautifully. Wow!
But when I tried to post a comment (as above!) - of course it wanted me to
sign in. Previously I have had no problem, but today, it did not recognise
me, and gave a letter and
I put the French explanation into my Bing Translator and came up with :-
Old scissors needle holder lacemaker. Not found and unusual. Make of
that what you will!!
That translation seems to imply it was a scissor type of needle holder. The
points of the needles seem to pushed in to a piece
I had my travel Pillow with me when we went to Tasmania and crossed Bass
Straight by sea (so we had the car to drive around in when we got to the
other end!!)
It is a night crossing, but after dinner, I got out my pillow, and sat in
the lounge making lace for quite a while. Not a great deal of
Robin, - Yes -- Definitely go to the Arachne lunch!
I have been to a couple of them - and would not miss it for quids!!
You will enjoy putting faces to names - and finding they are Real people,
not just a typed word on your monitor!! Everyone is so please to meet
everyone else - you
Lorelei, many years ago, (1980s) Christine David Springett came to
Australia, and Christine gave a slide show of some of her lace collection.
I always remember that there was a Beds. Lace cap lappets, - and the
lappets were stitched to the cap. It was obvious (when she pointed it out!!)
that
Thank you, Diana, for the link.
I knew I had seen it somewhere. Glad I was not dreaming it up!!
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I have seen a couple of photos, (somewhere) of a building in Bedford (UK)
that had large Lace panels hanging from its exterior. It looked spectacular
Did anyone else see it?
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I was one of the lucky ones who was on the American History tour at the IOLI
convention last year.
The afternoon drooling over their lace collection was one of the highlights
of my USA trip!
So Karen - a Big thank you to the people who organized that viewing, and the
presentation plus the folders
Yes, I got one too, but had read the IOLI circular warning first. However,
I would Not have answered her ! If she could not talk to me on the Open
web site, - then she has nothing that I would want to hear!
I, too, am cautious!!
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.
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Adele, With needlelace, I know your problem about hiding ends. I too get
lumpy bits sometimes!
Try ending along the outline threads with just a few whips, and start the
new thread along the outline thread from the opposite direction. - this
spreads the load so to speak! If you end the thread
Reading all the different things people are working on - or have just
finished is quite amazing.
When you say lace to the general public, they think of the commercial stuff
you buy by the yard, - or special lace like the royal wedding dress.
If only they could read Arachne, and realize the
I have the mat with the trident edge that I was asking about, still half
done, and on the pillow, ready to be worked on!
I will take my little travel pillow on holidays with me, and that has a
Cluny Edge using only about 12 pairs, but it looks like an Early lace
design. Comes from the little
I happily received my UK Lace magazine last week, but sadly noted in the
list of obituaries that besides the passing of Pat Earnshaw, and various
other lacemakers, Mrs. Ruth Bean's name was there. That is sad, and I am
sure others will agree that she has given us all so much enjoyment, and
Glad to hear people checking in and letting us all know you are save and
well after Sandy did its worst.
I have heard from Devon, and she is Ok, but I have not heard from Holly. I
hope all is well with her, too. I don't know where anyone lives, so don't
know of others in the storm areas.
We are
Well, many thanks for all the instructions! I have managed to put 8 photos
into a set in our Flickr site.
However, they are still all in the stream below that runs across the page.
Is this correct?
It chose the mariners compass for the Set picture. I don't know why, but
that is what is there -
Arlene in NJ, - None of us would do anything else, I think, than sit and
make lace in times like you are going through. What a pity no-one else near
you understands. I wonder what they have been doing in their spare time!
I know I, too, would just sit and make lace - calming, and productive.
So
I hope everyone on the East coast is safe and well, after that Terrible
storm. We are getting a lot about it on TV and in our newspapers.
I am sure I speak for all Aussie lacemakers when I say our thoughts are with
you all, and we hope you are safe and well.
Best wishes from Down Under.
Thank you Lorelei, for those instructions on how to go about sorting our
photo albums.
Clay, - I had not done anything about it, yet, as I just did not feel
confident to fiddle...!!!
However, with Lorelei's instructions printed off, and sitting beside me, I
will give it a go. I am not
Well done, Sue. That looks terrific.
Gosh! You finished it so quickly, too.
Yes, please let us all see the lace within the clock, so we can see the
finished product.
Pat yourself on the back for a job very well done.
Regards from Liz in cold, damp, Melbourne, Oz
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We were lucky enough to see part of this enormous piece of lace when we had
the American History tour on the Wednesday of the IOLI convention week.
After doing our own thing during the morning, we gathered after lunch and
were taken down into the bowels of the building, and let loose in 3 rooms
Thank you, Sue T. for that video clip.
After learning about the green tint - (which none of the optometrists I
visited knew anything about!), I tried my yellow tint on my shooting glasses
- and found it helped quite a bit.
I will try blue, as I think it and/or pink are used to help dyslexic
I have just found out that there are some alterations available for
downloading and printing off for the Rosemary shepherd book An Early Lace
Workbook.
Go to http://www.lacedaisypress.com.au/publication1.html
And scroll down below the book, and you will find 6 PDF pages you can
print. Some
I have been asked about where I found the instructions for the trident.
IOLI Bulletin Volume 28 #1 Fall 2007 page 31, Vol 28 #2 winter 2007 page 21,
and Vol 28 #3, Spring 2008 page 15. the article is by Susan Lambiris, and is
about a figurative Reticella in bobbin lace. She has nice clear
I asked a few days ago about a Trident edge.
Well, yesterday I was looking through some IOLI Bulletins - looking for
something else, - and came a cross a series of articles on Figurative
Reticella bobbin lace by Susan Lambiris - and there, beautifully worked and
diagrammed was exactly what I was
Has anyone done a Trident edge on their plaited lace? I think it might
originally be from an Early lace.
Question, - is each little plait held in place with a pin between the
pairs, and then worked back and 3 windmill crossings at the same pinhole
between the 3 plaited bits?
One diagram I
My Great Grandmother was taught to read and write - probably at lace School.
However the family thought it was dreadful that her father paid to have her
taught to read and write - a total waste of hard earned money, and they
almost banned him from the family!!
She was the last of the family to
My UK Lace magazine arrive today, too. Wonderful!
Thank you, Lace Guild, for helping us overseas members to get our fix
quickly!!
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, - where it is Very very chilly - with
frost overnight!!!
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The scarf is beautiful Janice.
As to the collar - you are SO clever with design, and fantastic ideas. I
never thought my little hankie corner could look so spectacular!! Very well
done. I love the way you have used the double trail and rings in other
parts of the design, to link it all up.
Hi, Laurie S. I found that very interesting that green tinted glasses help
your tremor. I must try that! I have a shocking hand tremor when I go to
write - some days I can hardly sign my name, - but I can use a fine needle
without a problem for Needlelace, and I don't have too much trouble with
Sorry Lauren S.. I typed Laurie instead of your correct name. Grovelling
apologies!!
(Good thing you have met me twice, so you know what I am like :)
)
I had been chatting to a Laurie' a short while before I answered the
Arachne list --and it was just a mental slip! (another
David, I was taught Never to pick up the bobbins by their spangles as that
can wear and break the wire or thread - whatever - that holds the beads on.
That is what the shank is for - for picking them up! :)
As to stacking them up - I have seen people use the base of a plastic dish -
like an ice
On my 2 plastrons that are Mixed lace - bobbin lace outside and needlelace
inner section, I made 2 tiny needlework loops on the back, and I thread a
tiny gold safety pin through them from inside the garment, and through the
loop, and back into the garment. They don't show, and I am not damaging
Very sorry to hear of the passing of another lacemaker. Although I had not
heard of hr, I am still sad to think we have lost another person with our
love of lace. may she rest in peace.
Re Donna's fan - Very pretty, and how clever of you to fashion your own
fansticks. Well done. They look Great.
That is Very sad news about Betty Ann Rice. I am so sorry. Please pass o0n
my condolences to her family, Clay.
I met her in Denver IOLI convention, when I sat at her table - for the
Arachne lunch, I believe.
My husband came home from hospital yesterday, after open-heart surgery, so
reading of
Wow! That is the first gown I have seen that is All lace. Very well done.
It looks beautiful - and so does the dear little baby.
I hope she grows up to love lace, too, like her Grandma obviously does!!
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Well, the pesky little Borrowers have at last, brought back my clip-on
magnifiers in the little black pouch, that I have been searching for , for
quite some time.
The sneaky little gremlins put them back into the Portland , Oregon, IOLI
goodie bag, which I lifted out of the cupboard yesterday, to
I agree with you Jeri.
I am in 5 lace guilds and I consider the membership fees Very well spent. I
get so much pleasure from the magazines - Living so far away from most of
the Guilds it is the only contact I have with them, usually, but I find them
invaluable. I am also on 4 Internet lace chat
She's a tough bird (her own words), and we haven't heard the last from
her yet!!!..
That is good, as we need, and enjoy, her contributions to this list.
I am so glad she is recuperating well. Best wishes from 'Down Under' to
her.
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.
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Alex, I have one of those Hankies.
I was given is as a hankie!I have since been told it was to cover the
face of the dead. I don't know much about the tradition, but it sounds
about right.
However, I have given strict instructions that neither it, nor any other
lace is to be put in my
Congratulations to Sweden on the safe arrival of a Princess. Nice to hear
some good news for a change!
I see you mention Vadstena.. Look at the latest photos of Lace at the Lace
IOLI site that Lorelei mentioned and there are some photos of a book on the
lace, and the lace made from the
Being of English origin, - I have always pronounced it lass-iss - like Alex,
Brenda, and Jane, with the emphasis on the first syllable.
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Sandi, - Your new web site is Great. Congratulations.
Your lace is beautiful, and you have a wonderful eye for colour and design.
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.
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Gosh! Over here Down under, we can use the self-serve if we wish, but at
the 'normal checkouts, the shop assistant packs the bags as she scans the
items.
We take our own bags, and hand them to her, and she fills them. We ask for
meat to be put in a plastic bag rather than in our fabric bag, in
Oh dear! Another group to join!! :)
--- and I just have!!! :)
Anyone would think I was addicted to lace or something!! :)
Thanks Lorelei, for the pointer to the site. (How come I missed it?!!!)
Regards from Liz in Hoit, sunny Melbourne, Oz.
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I am with you all the way, Lorelei! The different meanings to terminology
makes life So hard, - So unnecessarily hard!
I always think of Tape lace as being of the Battenburg etc type - with a
machine made purchased tape, and Braid lace as being the bobbin lace, type -
some Russian , and Idjria,
Thank you all for your suggestions and help.
I have eventually got it nutted out with all the leads you gave me.
15 photos there now, - and only one photo of each piece of lace!!
Regards from a relieved Liz in Melbourne, Oz
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I want to go in and change my photos, but the silly thing won't let me in
for some reason. I tried with all lower case, then Initial in Upper case,
neither with any success.
Has the user name or password changed ? I just can't Log In.
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.
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Gr!!! I got in to the Webshots (I was putting in
a space in the name, which should not have been there.)
Then I downloaded new photos, and named them, - and supposedly removed the
old photos. Then is said an error, so do it again, Which I did, - and now
find there is 2
I am very sorry to hear of the passing of Doris and Irma. Although I only
know them by name, it is sad to hear their wonderful skills, teaching
abilities, etc are gone forever.
Also Steve the bobbin maker.
Greetings and a Happy New Year to everyone. I hope 2012 will be a good year
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Hi, Jill,
Welcome to the Very addictive world of Needlelace!!! I use sticky-back
plastic over my paper pattern, which is tacked onto 4 layers of
calico(Muslin to USA!)
When I can, I use the thicker matt finish blue 'contact', but as it is
expensive I often just use a blue-ish green contact, as
I love the poem, Sue. It is very clever. Thank you for sharing.
We had a nice, but quiet, Christmas, and I would like to take this
opportunity to wish everyone a Happy New year, and all the best for 2012.
I made lace, - of course!!, and have my little travel pillow with me - with
an Early lace
I made a firm quilted mat with a U shape to fit around the roller on my
travel pillow, and the sides go over onto the back flap (where a beaded pin
holds the ends in place while I am working.
This stops the bobbins and threads falling in between the side flaps and the
gap before the back flap,
Sue, I have had a look at the photo of your travel pillow.
The first thing I noticed is that the little pouch on the back flap seems to
me to be set at the wrong angle - facing the wrong way. On my travel pillow
the pouch opens towards the roller, so the lace comes off the roller and
feeds into
Peg in Cleveland, - have a look at the Shuttle Brothers web site -
http://www.gr8shuttles.com/index.shtml
Yes, they use shuttles, - but they show how to do the Mock split rings, with
diagrams in 3 stages/pages, so you might at least get an idea how they are
made - 2 shuttles, - so you might need 2
I have just heard that the republished Needlelace Stitches book by Pat
Gibson, and Ros Hills, is now available directly from Pat.
She says - £17.00 plus some postage in UK. not sure of postage prices
elsewhere probably about £3.00 extra.
This book is a Must have, for anyone making needlelace as
Oh dear! Poor Sue, - well, what I would do - if the holes down the centre
for the ribbon/elastic match up, - then just catch the ends of the short
piece, to the longer piece, Add the bow just here - and turn it in to a
Deliberate Mistake (to prove it is hand made not shop bought!!! :) )
I work
I have heard from Pat Stevens, and Bob is still working on the CD's.
There has been a slight hold up, beyond Bob's control, but the CD's will be
ready soon.
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Has anyone received their CD from this year's IOLI Convention yet?
I ordered and paid for one, but have not heard anything, and wondered if I
had fallen off the list somehow.
I have my receipt here!
Last year I ordered one, and got it in October, so wondered if there was a
reason they are late
Daphne, - the extra amount on the postage may be for insurance, - though
that should have been mentioned.
I have shopped overseas, and had an extra amount added to cover the loss of
the parcel if that should happen. From USA one time - $3 postage cost $19
due to the insurance.
Regards from Liz
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Jean, that is Wonderful Congratulations to you both.
The book is excellent, and to raise that much with sales is fantastic.
Well done.
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.
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I was teaching a half-day tally workshop some years ago, and watched as a
left-handed lady worked her tally normally, but with the worker in her left
hand - but she was tensioning up on the right side - with her left arm
crossed far over to the right.
She said she was so left-handed that her
Well, with many thanks to Ilske and Ann-Marie, I have found that my lovely
picture of a mother teaching her daughter Lacemaking is by an English
painter Samuel Barling Clarke painted around 1860.
I thought she looked Victorian and the bobbins were spangled, indicating
an English background.
I often just take my little travel pillow to demonstrations, these days. I
also use Helen's Road map idea, and I also have a working diagram, pinned
to the inside of the front flap of the pillow, so that people can see the
road map and I can point out where I am exactly on the pattern.
It is
When doing a demonstration, I usually have a display board on legs behind me
with my lace pinned on it for display. I feel it is safer that way.
If I have to leave my pillow, I slot knitters stitch-holders through the
spangles (like I do when carrying the pillow from A to B,) then cover them
Someone gave me a copy of a painting (just on A4 glossy paper) of a mother
teaching her small child lacemaking. She has a bolster pillow on a stand,
and the bobbins are spangled.
There is no name or painter marked, so I have no idea who painted it , and
where it came from, but it is a lovely
Darling Daughter, Helen Bell, worked a copy of Vermeer's Lacemaker for me
many years ago, in Tapestry. I think I bought the canvas, and she certainly
did all the stitching.
It holds pride of place in my home.
One day, as she watched me lacemaking, she said Oh!. She is putting up a
pin. Who is?
I think there is a knob at the other end, too, - deep in the shadow of the
basket.
I first thought it was for winding up your yardage lace, but the knobby bit
in the centre would make this difficult. Then I decided it might be where
you can wind on threads - like some of the DMC thread that comes
A friend has been asked to sell an old bone ringstick. An antique was her
word for it. I have not seen it, so cannot give any description of how good
order it is in.
The question is - what is its value - ie. what is a reasonable price to ask
for it? (any currency - I can easily convert to Aussie
We have 2 lace books- one of Heather Toomer's books,, and the other a Jill
Norsford-Clarke one, in my local library - (a small branch of the main one)
and I take them out every few weeks, just to get it noted on their list as
being used. I usually browse through them and look at the pictures!
There is so much information in your book, Catherine, that I am sure a black
white copy would be fine. People are after your knowledge, and ability to
pass on that knowledge, rather than look at coloured photos!!!
I think getting the information out there is more important, so I say yes to
black
.There are three large point de Venise lace panels in my own
collection, for which I have much information, but not as to their place of
origin. The style is somewhat like the lace in the July 1976 IOLI bulletin
- floral, Art Nouveau-ish - surrounding a reproduction (in finer
thread)
There is a Miser Bag in knitting, at the back of Tina, the Little
Lacemaker published by the Rocky Mt. Lace Guild in time for the 2005 IOLI
convention.
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.
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Helen said - I reckon that's the type of pillow I saw in an antique shop
one year way back when...
Yes, Helen, I remember that trip. We went to Malden for the afternoon, -a
little town full of antique shops, - and I remember the pillow in a window -
$400+ even then (and it must be well over 20
The roller part looks OK, but I would need the working pad much higher up,
as I don't like the bobbins to be that much lower than where they come from
the pins, - and I think that Handle would get in the way of using the
pins. Yuk!
It was a great trip to USA, and Greeting to everyone I met there,
Thank you,. Jean for both of those articles on your web site. How
interesting to get to see where the Wedding Dress lace was made, - and
especially to see the lace after it had been trimmed from the whole piece,
and then displayed how it was on the dress.
Also the article on Bucks point. I
That blog is good, Janis. I have bookmarked it!!
It is interesting to see David's work, and the man himself sitting at his
large pillow!
I am one of the Lacemakers Janis has visited while here in Melbourne. She
cam to afternoon tea with me yesterday, and another lacemaker friend came
too, who
I wear lace - to lace days, demonstrations, and whenever it seems
appropriate.
If you've got it - Flaunt it!!!
I have collar corners, and collars and a neck tie (Mincoff Marriage -
Saxony Guipure lace) as well as 2 plastrons of Mixed lace, - and have worn
the Mixed lace Table runner, tied up
...I like to think that I would show lace off better than she does because,
being much larger, there'd be more of it to see on me!..'
Jean, I fully agree. I have made myself 2 Victorian type plastrons - Long
triangular shaped pieces for down the front of a dress, in mixed beds with
Needlelace
Susan Hottle - why don't you have Arachne in digest form? It will cut down
quite a bit of mail. I have found it very satisfactory - I get the mail
almost daily (or even twice a day when there is a lot of chat!), but I can
scroll though the letters, and get questions and answers together, instead
I have a pair of collar corners which go in the washing machine - usually
still attached to the blouse!!
The blouse does not need ironing, but I just pull the lace into shape and
dab an iron on it and they come out looking nearly as good as new! They are
Beds lace with a 9 pin edge!
I stitched
...My friends have crowned me the uncontested Queen of Unfinished
Projects...
Robin P. I have a t-shirt with that very sentiment on it!! - got it from
Keepsake Quilting! I Love it!!!
I too have lots of Still-going-on projects, many of which will Never be
finished, I fear. My daughter will
Thank you all for your responses to my question about the old re-painted
bobbins, and what to do, - or Not do with them.
I have passed on your answers to my friend, and she asks me to say thank you
to you all. You have given her a lot of good advice, and triggered some new
thoughts on old
A friend has asked what she should do about some old bobbins she has been
given, that have been repainted.
... four old lace bobbins, one of which appears to be ivory (truly) and the
others bone! Two of the bone ones have been somewhat vandalised to my mind
by having their grooves inexpertly
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