>>>>> "UW" == Uli Wortmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: UW> Works like expected on NS 4.04 and NS2.02. Maybe it's a browser UW> problem? Try www.spoc.ethz.ch, which works fine with IE, all NS on UW> macs and NS using unix, nt, and w95. Wow. You're right. I downloaded 4.08 and it displays fine. Even more oddly, when I got 4.08 I noticed that my version of 4.51 was the export version, so I decided to download the version with strong encryption. Guess what? That one displays fine as well. It's still odd that the other version of 4.51 I was using displayed the l2h-converted stuff differently than the other example I gave (Zawinski's bookmarks). I love the frames. Too bad they're so slow to display... -John