Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] LibO 3.5.0 Beta 0 First assessment

2011-12-03 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote (03-12-11 15:50) Yes ! we have not branched yet; master will branch at the feature-freeze before B1 so we have: master Beta0 ---\--- crazy stuff ... \ \- Beta1 --- stabilisation

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] LibO 3.5.0 Beta 0 First assessment

2011-12-03 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote (03-12-11 15:49) Well - we've fixed a number of the most obvious packaging bugs, parallel installability etc. etc. in master - so (without further new problems - of which we expect some up to the freeze) Beta1 will be rather better. It's more realistic to expect

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibO 3.5.0 Beta 0 First assessment

2011-12-03 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Rainer, Rainer Bielefeld wrote (03-12-11 08:42) Shit happens, now the question is how we will go on. As posted already yesterday, it is not unlikely that beta1 will have about the same troubles. If so, those will be fixed before beta2, which will make that version fine for larger

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibO 3.5.0 Beta 0 First assessment

2011-12-03 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote (03-12-11 15:50) Yes ! we have not branched yet; master will branch at the feature-freeze before B1 so we have: master Beta0 ---\--- crazy stuff ... \ \- Beta1 --- stabilisation

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibO 3.5.0 Beta 0 First assessment

2011-12-03 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote (03-12-11 15:49) Well - we've fixed a number of the most obvious packaging bugs, parallel installability etc. etc. in master - so (without further new problems - of which we expect some up to the freeze) Beta1 will be rather better. It's more realistic to expect

[Libreoffice] master build does not start with a second monitor connected

2011-12-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Bug 43458 - LibreOffice does not start with a second monitor connected -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.0 beta0 available

2011-12-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote (02-12-11 11:35) It is in a bit of a state it seems :-) anyhow - lots of bugs in our release process found/fixed before B1 which is good. I wonder how widely we should be announcing B0 - in the state that is in though. I agree with that. It's great to have the

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.0 beta0 available

2011-12-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Petr, Petr Mladek wrote (02-12-11 16:30) I would decide about the bug-hunting party when we have, the feature complete, beta1 in hands and see how it looks like. Indeed, after the discussion today it's obvious that we must wait until we know that the beta1 is OK for such a larger test.

[Libreoffice] Clipboard handling in Master (Was Re: Clipboard handling on Windows)

2011-12-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Arno Teigseth wrote (02-12-11 21:55) Don't want to hijack anything, but wonder if wine program-LO clipboard behaviour is related to this? When I copy stuff from from programs in wine and later paste them into writer with Ctrl+V, the paste is happening at _the end of_ the document (not where

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.0 beta0 available

2011-12-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Thorsten Behrens wrote (02-12-11 10:25) Builds are now being uploaded to a public (but non-mirrored - so don't spread news too widely!) place, as soon as they're available. Grab them here: So it's probably better not to twitter right now :-) I plan some info today about the testing of the

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Libreoffice] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.0 beta0 available

2011-12-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote (02-12-11 11:35) It is in a bit of a state it seems :-) anyhow - lots of bugs in our release process found/fixed before B1 which is good. I wonder how widely we should be announcing B0 - in the state that is in though. I agree with that. It's great to have the

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [Libreoffice] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.0 beta0 available

2011-12-02 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Petr, Petr Mladek wrote (02-12-11 16:30) I would decide about the bug-hunting party when we have, the feature complete, beta1 in hands and see how it looks like. Indeed, after the discussion today it's obvious that we must wait until we know that the beta1 is OK for such a larger test.

Re: [Libreoffice] minutes of tech. steering call ...

2011-12-01 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote (01-12-11 17:21) * QA Update (Rainer) + Cor to organise a bug-hunting session for B1 next weekend. Working to get some support :-) Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org ___ LibreOffice mailing list

Re: [Libreoffice] Master build on Linux launches in background from terminal

2011-12-01 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Alex, Alex Thurgood wrote (01-12-11 23:05) As from today, my build from master when launched from a terminal starts in the background and does not receive focus. The desktop is Gnome classic desktop with Ubuntu 11.10. My build from yesterday evening (Build ID: 93acae3-090bcba-45cf606)

Re: [Libreoffice] Master build on Linux launches in background from terminal

2011-12-01 Thread Cor Nouws
Alex Thurgood wrote (01-12-11 23:08) Ok, something weird is going on (possibly on my machine). It only starts up like that the very first time after build completion. All subsequent starts bring the app main window to the foreground. First time it doesn't start completely for me. This is

Re: [Libreoffice] SWT window locks LOo

2011-11-30 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Othman, othman wrote (30-11-11 11:51) i gave you the oxt demo , the SWT source code etc..it is you who are not [...] There is a grey area ... sometimes it's not always easy for non-developers to help, provide useful information, on the other hand devs do give a lot of support to help

[Libreoffice] product-name in title bar of the office ?

2011-11-30 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi, Up until recently I could change the product-name in the title bar of the window via this file: share/registry/brand.xcd prop oooname Is there another route now? The least I like to have this for, is that I can easily see in the title bar, in which of the various versions that often

Re: [Libreoffice] product-name in title bar of the office ?

2011-11-30 Thread Cor Nouws
Regina Henschel wrote (30-11-11 23:23) It is in share/registry/main.xcd Thanks Regina! -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice

Re: [Libreoffice] Error GDK_DISPLAY_X11 (display)-xdisplay) screen_num' failed

2011-11-30 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Caolán, Caolán McNamara wrote (22-11-11 17:47) I could build like that. But won't be soon, prolly. Do I just have to give another command, or have to change smthng in an ini/setting? additional --enable-symbols to autogen.sh. Need to rebuild at least vcl, i.e. cd vcl; make -sr clean; make

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] QA ideas for 3.5 WAS Re: Improving the QA and Release for 3.5

2011-11-29 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Petr, Petr Mladek wrote (29-11-11 11:54) I have added QA and devel mailing lists into CC. We should not cook such an important event in background. Agreed - that is why I started at the list initially of course ;-) Cor Nouws píše v Út 29. 11. 2011 v 00:06 +0100: Is it OK for you if I

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] QA ideas for 3.5 WAS Re: Improving the QA and Release for 3.5

2011-11-29 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Petr, Petr Mladek wrote (29-11-11 16:42) Cor Nouws píše v Út 29. 11. 2011 v 15:34 +0100: Petr Mladek wrote (29-11-11 11:54) Another problem is that we still have only few testcases. We need to create more. We still could do it during the test phase. Any helping hands are welcome. I

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA ideas for 3.5 WAS Re: [Libreoffice] Improving the QA and Release for 3.5

2011-11-29 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Petr, Petr Mladek wrote (29-11-11 11:54) I have added QA and devel mailing lists into CC. We should not cook such an important event in background. Agreed - that is why I started at the list initially of course ;-) Cor Nouws píše v Út 29. 11. 2011 v 00:06 +0100: Is it OK for you if I

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Improving the QA and Release for 3.5

2011-11-23 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Petr, Petr Mladek wrote (23-11-11 10:28) All in all I would say it is needed to organise these events.. I fully agree. I was just a bit scared by Cor's mail. It made me feel that Janury 21 would be the only day when people should test LO-3.5. I am happy to hear that it is not true. :-)

[Libreoffice] QA for tech steering call 2011-11-24 Re: minutes of tech. steering call ...

2011-11-23 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Michael, Rainer*, Hmm, AFAICR, I'm not a frequent participant of the calls ;-) And tomorrow I'll be busy all day training people with Writer. So short two items via mail: - FYI: I have posted a proposal for some QA actions

Re: [Libreoffice] Error in/at end of make install

2011-11-22 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Stephan, Stephan Bergmann wrote (22-11-11 08:54) Do you need to tell make install where to install it to (looks like it uses /usr/local/lib as default prefix, maybe we accept a --prefix configure switch?). Hmm, I just looked again. And it looks as if I was confused and should have run

[Libreoffice] Error GDK_DISPLAY_X11 (display)-xdisplay) screen_num' failed WAS Re: [] Error in/at end of make install

2011-11-22 Thread Cor Nouws
Stephan Bergmann wrote (22-11-11 09:23) You have a computer terminal in your bathroom? What a nerd you are. ;) Well, close to. But I resist giving more detials ;-) Anyway, confusing install vs. dev-install looks like a plausible explanation. make dev-install ran fine. But alas the

Re: [Libreoffice] Error GDK_DISPLAY_X11 (display)-xdisplay) screen_num' failed WAS Re: [] Error in/at end of make install

2011-11-22 Thread Cor Nouws
Caolán McNamara wrote (22-11-11 13:32) lets get a backtrace there, i.e. . ./ooenv gdb --args ./soffice.bin (gdb) run (gdb) bt Starting program: /home/cono/src/git/libo_core/solver/unxlngi6.pro/installation/opt/program/soffice.bin [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread

Re: [Libreoffice] Error GDK_DISPLAY_X11 (display)-xdisplay) screen_num' failed WAS Re: [] Error in/at end of make install

2011-11-22 Thread Cor Nouws
Caolán McNamara wrote (22-11-11 15:25) Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0xb309b4f3 in X11SalGraphics::GetResolution(long, long) () Hmm, pity it isn't an --enable-symbols build which would give line numbers. I could build like that. But won't be soon, prolly. Do I just

Re: [Libreoffice] Report from ODF PlugFest

2011-11-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Italo Vignoli wrote (18-11-11 10:40) Can I get a contact from this company? We need such statements, and I would be happy to get a quotation from these guys to use in a press release, or to write a case study about their implementation. Of course - he's willing to help. Send it to you direct,

Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH/REVIEW-3-4] Backport reading AES-encrypted ODF 1.2 documents (as genereated by LibO 3.5)

2011-11-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Stahl wrote (19-11-11 18:18) So for the release notes something as follows would be appropriate: In LibreOffice 3.5 a new stronger encryption will be introduced. As am not sure stronger is appropriate here, AFAIK the main motivation for the change was that the new algorithm (AES) is

Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH] translated comments in /svx/source/stbctrls

2011-11-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Phillip, Philipp Weissenbacher wrote (21-11-11 12:48) I took a quick look at your patch and found these minor things: Thanks :-) Line 95: Create an intance of the implementation class, enable the page numbering by default There's a typo (intance - instance) and in German text it says

Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH] translated comments in /svx/source/stbctrls

2011-11-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote (21-11-11 13:17) (NB, I think I saw a comment somewhere, that display of date/time have been completely disabled .. shall look if I can find that again) Indeed, line 426 in svx/source/stbctrls/pszctrl.cxx // Empty display if neither size nor table position are available

Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH/REVIEW-3-4] Backport reading AES-encrypted ODF 1.2 documents (as genereated by LibO 3.5)

2011-11-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Michael, Michael Meeks wrote (21-11-11 13:46) On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 12:05 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote: In LibreOffice 3.5 a different, more often used encryption will be introduced. ... It'd be great if that final text ended up at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org

Re: [Libreoffice] [PUSHED] translated comments in /svx/source/stbctrls

2011-11-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote (21-11-11 15:37) Always the way :-) Nasty guys here ;-) Ah I was asking if you wanted a company name: CorNouwsInc. or somesuch against your changes. That is what I understood, yes. So where should I do what to add NouOff (www.nouenoff.nl) ? -- - Cor

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [PATCH] Make the toolbars not popping-up randomly

2011-11-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Kendy :-) Jan Holesovsky wrote (21-11-11 16:25) The problem with docking them there is that if you let the behavior as it is now (pop-up when you are in the bullet list / table / etc., and disappear when you leave that), then your document will be jumping left and right, which would be

Re: [Libreoffice] report from ODF Plugfest Gouda

2011-11-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Thorsten Behrens wrote (21-11-11 17:48) Use RDF for what it's been designed for, craft extensibility into ODF via other means. Wasn't it a possibility to save data that is not likely to become regular part of ODF in the end (hmm, would you want to have smthing like that in your office-app

Re: [Libreoffice] hickup in my build today

2011-11-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi August, August Sodora wrote (22-11-11 03:29) cd into each of those directories and run build manually and they all turn out ok; then you can go back and run make in the root yes, that is what I did, and described, maybe not clear enough. I just wanted to let the devs know where it was.

[Libreoffice] Error in/at end of make install

2011-11-21 Thread Cor Nouws
after the make, make install runs fine for some time but finishes with these last lines: Entering /home/cono/src/git/libo_core/instsetoo_native/util dmake: makefile.mk: line 239: Warning: -- Prior to dmake 4.5 only one %-target per target-definition worked reliably. Check your makefiles.

Re: [Libreoffice] Error in/at end of make install

2011-11-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote (22-11-11 07:06) And indeed, I cannot start the programm in the following way, that I was able before: cd /home/cono/src/git/libo_core/install/program . ./ooenv ./soffice.bin something wrong in make install or new methodology? Of course this info: cono@cono-tm-new:~/src/git

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] prob with dailybuild on Linux x86 ?

2011-11-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Drew, *, drew wrote (06-11-11 19:21) Well, I'll toss in my observations - which assuming I'm doing this correctly might point more to a problem, if there is one, withing the deb packages. Thanks for confirming that it's fine with the rpm package. Do others use the *deb* packages from the

[Libreoffice-qa] QA ideas for 3.5 WAS Re: [Libreoffice] Improving the QA and Release for 3.5

2011-11-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, Cor Nouws wrote (19-11-11 16:56) A test-event, was one of the ideas from the presentation (1), slide #24 Time is running fast, and since the developers (reading the most recent report of the ESC) did their bits to help us with better QA, I would like to take a more comprehensive

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] prob with dailybuild on Linux x86 ?

2011-11-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi JB, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote (21-11-11 11:21) Do others use the *deb* packages from the daily build? Yes, me (x86 on my professional machine) but only in English. ;-) Language would not be the problem. I have continuous troubles when I use parallel install (1) the daily builds. Not

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Libreoffice] [PATCH] Make the toolbars not popping-up randomly

2011-11-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Christoph, Christoph Noack wrote (21-11-11 22:00) A very first step (an initial cheap solution) might be to add another side pane which can accommodate the today's toolbars. If this toolbar is visible / accessible all the time, no need for a jumping document - quite the contrary, since the

Re: [Libreoffice] cross reference

2011-11-20 Thread Cor Nouws
[ forwarded this to the users list ] Kees Kriek wrote (20-11-11 13:29) When I use a cross reference in Writer to for example another item, the [...] -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org ___ LibreOffice mailing list

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [PATCH] Make the toolbars not popping-up randomly

2011-11-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, Jan Holesovsky wrote (19-11-11 03:32) On 2011-11-18 at 23:56 +0100, Christoph Noack wrote: * When we've presented some proposals within the OOo Renaissance project, people mentioned that vertical space is valuable due to widescreen displays. So what about

Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH/REVIEW-3-4] Backport reading AES-encrypted ODF 1.2 documents (as genereated by LibO 3.5)

2011-11-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Stephan Bergmann wrote (18-11-11 15:27) On 11/18/2011 02:21 PM, Cor Nouws wrote: So I have to interpret it as: an encrypted document from 3.5 opened in 3.4 will be saved with the old encryption, without notice? Yes. Sorry for my unclear muttering. No probs - we are at it now. ;-) So

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Improving the QA and Release for 3.5

2011-11-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote (13-11-11 21:20) Rainer Bielefeld wrote (11-11-11 20:06) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Improving_QA-Release-3.5 I'm afraid Try to get more testers doing the testing earlier will be the critical/limiting condition. [...] You are perfectly right

Re: [Libreoffice] report from ODF Plugfest Gouda

2011-11-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote (18-11-11 18:57) The second day: Presentations available here https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events#Europe (row with ODF Plugfest - obviously) -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice

[Libreoffice] [PATCH] translated comments in /svx/source/stbctrls

2011-11-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:37:30 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] Translation of German comments --- svx/source/stbctrls/pszctrl.cxx | 103 +++--- svx/source/stbctrls/stbctrls.src | 14 +++--- svx/source/stbctrls

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Improving the QA and Release for 3.5

2011-11-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote (13-11-11 21:20) Rainer Bielefeld wrote (11-11-11 20:06) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Improving_QA-Release-3.5 I'm afraid Try to get more testers doing the testing earlier will be the critical/limiting condition. [...] You are perfectly right

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Libreoffice] [PATCH] Make the toolbars not popping-up randomly

2011-11-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, Jan Holesovsky wrote (19-11-11 03:32) On 2011-11-18 at 23:56 +0100, Christoph Noack wrote: * When we've presented some proposals within the OOo Renaissance project, people mentioned that vertical space is valuable due to widescreen displays. So what about

[Libreoffice] report from ODF Plugfest Gouda

2011-11-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, report from first day (=yesterday) (In the train now on my way for the second one) Two tracks - - - - - - This ODF plugfest is organised roughly in two tracks: - international, where the ODF supporting office programs exchange; - national, where Dutch and Belgium firms that have

Re: [Libreoffice] report from ODF Plugfest Gouda

2011-11-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote (18-11-11 10:00) report from first day (=yesterday) Should have included this link: http://plugtest.opendocsociety.org/doku.php?id=plugfests:20_gouda:info And - before I forget it in my next report: kudos for the people organising the event. Great work! -- - Cor

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] ANNOUNCE: Updated schedule for LibreOffice 3.4.5 and 3.5.0 release

2011-11-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote (18-11-11 10:41) This beta0 also has the side-effect of making Cor unbelievably happy - right Cor ? :-) Ah, most appreciated. This just as a quick first reply, since I see my name. Might take some time ( :-\ ) before I can react more in detail. (There is some

Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH/REVIEW-3-4] Backport reading AES-encrypted ODF 1.2 documents (as genereated by LibO 3.5)

2011-11-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Stephan Bergmann wrote (18-11-11 11:28) On 11/17/2011 10:37 PM, Cor Nouws wrote: Stephan Bergmann wrote (17-11-11 09:02) On 11/11/2011 11:12 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: Is included in the patch, that when a encrypted document is opened in 3.4.n and saved again, people are informed about the change

Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH] Start Impress without the wizard by default

2011-11-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote (18-11-11 16:15) Hi Tim, On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 15:38 +0100, Tim Hardeck wrote: this one-liner should prevent the Impress Wizard from getting started automatically. The assistant should now only appear if File - Wizards - Presentation is used. Compared to the current

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [PATCH] Start Impress without the wizard by default

2011-11-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote (18-11-11 16:54) Cor - you didn't tell us if you thought this was a good default; so far Astron agrees, and Tim of course ;-) The Wizard is extremely helpful, when you want to have it. So yes, I support a change in behaviour. Either turning the default off, or the

Re: [Libreoffice] report from ODF Plugfest Gouda

2011-11-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote (18-11-11 10:04) http://plugtest.opendocsociety.org/doku.php?id=plugfests:20_gouda:info The second day: - There is a lot of good work presented at the plugfest. All kind of applications supporting ODF, and also offering partly support in the browser, on iOS, Android

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [PATCH] Make the toolbars not popping-up randomly

2011-11-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Christoph Noack wrote (18-11-11 22:01) Well, I think I don't get everything from the technical description, With the patch, initially the pop-up-behaving toolbars are docked above the status bar. so I really have to try. At the moment, I'm thinking about stuff like potentially increased

Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH/REVIEW-3-4] Backport reading AES-encrypted ODF 1.2 documents (as genereated by LibO 3.5)

2011-11-17 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Stephan, Stephan Bergmann wrote (17-11-11 09:02) On 11/11/2011 11:12 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: Is included in the patch, that when a encrypted document is opened in 3.4.n and saved again, people are informed about the change in encryption? No. I see. When you modify and save an encrypted

Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH] Make the toolbars not popping-up randomly

2011-11-17 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Tim, Tim Hardeck wrote (17-11-11 17:07) On 11/17/2011 04:00 PM, Cor Nouws wrote: Tim Hardeck wrote (16-11-11 20:12) With this patch these toolbars should be docked to the bottom to prevent the document from being moved each time the toolbar is displayed. Could you please explain a bit

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Libreoffice] [PATCH] Make the toolbars not popping-up randomly

2011-11-17 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Tim, Tim Hardeck wrote (17-11-11 17:07) On 11/17/2011 04:00 PM, Cor Nouws wrote: Tim Hardeck wrote (16-11-11 20:12) With this patch these toolbars should be docked to the bottom to prevent the document from being moved each time the toolbar is displayed. Could you please explain a bit

Re: [Libreoffice] lurking on IRC next Saturday ..

2011-11-16 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Michael, Michael Meeks wrote (16-11-11 10:59) On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 23:17 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote: Still some time from now ...but next Saturday there will be the next HackerEvent we have in Netherlands/Flanders. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NL/bijeenkomst_11-11-19 Cool

[Libreoffice] lurking on IRC next Saturday ..

2011-11-15 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi guys, Still some time from now ...but next Saturday there will be the next HackerEvent we have in Netherlands/Flanders. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NL/bijeenkomst_11-11-19 If some really experienced hackers have time to lurk on IRC now and then, that would be rather convenient when

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Improving the QA and Release for 3.5

2011-11-13 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Rainer, Rainer Bielefeld wrote (11-11-11 20:06) I'm afraid Try to get more testers doing the testing earlier will be the critical/limiting condition. [...] You are perfectly right there! (This information was contained in the slides that I did not include in the version linked from that

[Libreoffice] presentation Easy Hacking - last weekend at T-Dose

2011-11-13 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi *, As a final action for the past week, I just posted the presentation on easy hacking LibreOffice that I gave at T-Dose, the Saturday before. See: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Material#Presentation Please reuse and extend :-) -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org

Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH/REVIEW-3-4] Backport reading AES-encrypted ODF 1.2 documents (as genereated by LibO 3.5)

2011-11-11 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Stephan, Stephan Bergmann wrote (11-11-11 10:50) is a patch (actually, four separate patches for the components, lib-core, lib-gui, and ure repos) to backport support for reading (but not writing) AES-encrypted ODF 1.2 documents to libreoffice-3-4. Is included in the patch, that when a

[Libreoffice] Improving the QA and Release for 3.5

2011-11-11 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi, As a result of the discussions, the presentation, at the LibOCon, here are the conclusions. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Improving_QA-Release-3.5 and the places where people can comment and show commitment. What do you think? -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org

Re: [Libreoffice] [PATCH] Added line numbers to the basic ide

2011-11-11 Thread Cor Nouws
August Sodora wrote (11-11-11 17:30) Of course :-) I was looking at the stuff in cui for adding an option somewhere, is that the correct place to be looking? Also I'm not sure if the basic ide deserves its own entire category for options yet as I think this is the first configurable thing about

Re: [Libreoffice] [REVIEW 3-4] Fixing keyboard navigation of range selection in reference mode

2011-11-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Kohei, Kohei Yoshida wrote (09-11-11 03:25) There isn't a formally filed bug for this (either that or there is and I don't know about it), but this one is pretty bad I want this fixed in the stable version. The fix is There was some discussion on the users list on a at least related

Re: [Libreoffice] Extension dependencies

2011-11-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Stephan, So, I think I will just introduce a new LibreOffice-minimal-version dependency after all. I hand this subject in my mind for some time. Simply because I provide some extensions that now have a OpenOffice.org-minimal-version value and I was wondering how long that will last. a.

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug Triage Process Update

2011-11-08 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Petr, Rainer, Rainer Bielefeld wrote (08-11-11 20:17) 3. Query last two days: Of course it's also interesting to see the latest activities, but of course all bugs without review deserve attention When the idea is to make it extra attractive for people to look at bugs, it might be that

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] whacky parallel-install instructions ...

2011-11-07 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all, Thanks for looking at this. Not too much time ATM, so just two short notes: Christian Lohmaier wrote (07-11-11 13:10) You only need to go through manual unpacking or rebasing procedures when trying to install different versions of the same flavor, i.e. when installing multiple

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] whacky parallel-install instructions ...

2011-11-07 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Michael, Michael Meeks wrote (07-11-11 16:03) I have about 20+ versions - time to delete some, but then still, I have many versions in parallel. Just to be able to check in various versions of 3.3.x of 3.4.x of my own build, of daily builds.. Besides, I some 8 older OOo versions.

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] whacky parallel-install instructions ...

2011-11-07 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Michael, Michael Stahl wrote (07-11-11 18:05) 1. there used to be a user-install script which could install the RPMs as created in instsetoo_native not in the system, but in some path given as parameter (even on Debian), and patch it to use a user installation also in that directory; have

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] whacky parallel-install instructions ...

2011-11-07 Thread Cor Nouws
Christian Lohmaier wrote (07-11-11 18:16) Hi Cor, *, (that * needs a reply-all ;-) ) As the rpms are relocatable, you could actually install them using the relocate switch and then only adapt the userconfig path (or launch it with -env:UserInstallation=$(file-URL) to set it on the

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] whacky parallel-install instructions ...

2011-11-07 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote (07-11-11 17:22) On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 16:17 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote: Heh - so, I'd be inclined to recommend installing the packages, and then moving the results away to somewhere else - that may turn out to be rather more reliable [but will break system integration

Re: [Libreoffice] Dynamically relaod addon toolbar

2011-10-28 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi, This is no list for add-on /extensions questions (1) However.. othman wrote (27-10-11 23:15) what java code should i add to dynamically relaod addon toolbar or relaod the whole Addon context? Presumably there will be a whole representation of the configuration in memory. I would be

Re: [Libreoffice] Styles cleanup removing option page std fonts

2011-10-20 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Cedric, The complex point isn't on the UX side now... the whole default styles thing is hard-coded ATM and uses some xcu configuration. I'll need to get rid of this before having a default template. And even when we'll be ready to ship a default template, we don't need to wait to UX: it's

Re: [Libreoffice] Instruction to develop extensions

2011-10-20 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Nicholas, Permanent Box wrote (21-10-11 07:36) The link provided is a big system, its overwhelming and I may be too new to be at the developer's level. May I know the directions to take on creating extensions? If I were you, I would try to start at the 'old' place:

Re: [Libreoffice] Styles cleanup removing option page std fonts

2011-10-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Cedric, This option page does exactly the same than changing the values in the style directly. Yes.. In a not-so-far future, I'ld like to have this all configured through a default template instead of what we have... Ah, more new to come :-) and removing that option page is on the way

Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Styles cleanup removing option page std fonts

2011-10-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote (19-10-11 17:19) Let me take it to ux-advise :-) Good idea :-) Maybe related to Cedrics default-template implementation: a way to easily choose another template ('style sheet') - this in contrast to the current way of importing styles via the function in the

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Libreoffice] Styles cleanup removing option page std fonts

2011-10-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote (19-10-11 17:19) Let me take it to ux-advise :-) Good idea :-) Maybe related to Cedrics default-template implementation: a way to easily choose another template ('style sheet') - this in contrast to the current way of importing styles via the function in the

[Libreoffice] Styles cleanup removing option page std fonts

2011-10-18 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Cédric, Interest caught by your presentation in Paris, I saw your patch in cgit: 359d0fbd03a68d9131e8fb25e7dac9f19ddf6dcb I understand the idea to remove default paragraph styles such as list, list1, list1 cntd, list2 end etc etc But I do not understand what the link is with removing the

Re: [Libreoffice] build error

2011-10-13 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi, After new pull and make clean, the same error ... Cor Nouws wrote (10-10-11 20:07) rerunning build in xpdf: log for /home/cono/src/git/libo_core/xpdf dmake: makefile.mk: line 39: Error: -- Include file settings.mk, not found after rerunning in openssl about the same error: makefile.mk

Re: [Libreoffice] QA session at LibreOffice conference

2011-10-11 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Rainer, Rainer Bielefeld wrote (11-10-11 06:36) I will no be there and am not involved into any preparations, so I do not know what we are talking about. Unfortunately this and next week my job only will leave few time for LibO activity. Sorry to hear that you'll not be there. I just was

[Libreoffice] QA session at LibreOffice conference

2011-10-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Michael, Rainer, Doing some preparations for Paris, I see there is a discrepancy between the program on the website and the one in the spreadsheet, that can be downloaded. The website mentions Michael to do the QA session on Friday morning. The spreadsheet mentions me. I did not apply - I

Re: [Libreoffice] QA session at LibreOffice conference

2011-10-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Michael, Michael Meeks wrote (10-10-11 22:15) Looks like you're in charge :-) and/or you had a great list of questions. :-) This is your chance to discuss this, you've been concerned about it for a while, and we havn't managed to get to it. I'd really like to understand

Re: [Libreoffice] masterbuild 2011-10-03.. Linux x86: oosplash not found

2011-10-07 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote (07-10-11 22:29) So - it's rather beyond me. Can you run: (for a in *.rpm; do rpm -qlp $a; done) /tmp/rpm-log from wherever you have the downloaded packages, and check the log ? I downloaded

Re: [Libreoffice] masterbuild 2011-10-03.. Linux x86: oosplash not found

2011-10-07 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote (06-10-11 17:52) Now some more fun :-D I installed as followes: - unpacked and ran dpkg-deb in a tmp folder - moved the whole opt to ~/path - changed bootstraprc: ~/LibreOffice/master20111003/lo-dev/program$ emacs bootstraprc $SYSUSERCONFIG/libreoffice/35master111003 (what I

Re: [Libreoffice] masterbuild 2011-10-03.. Linux x86: oosplash not found

2011-10-07 Thread Cor Nouws
Stephan Bergmann wrote (07-10-11 22:46) On 10/07/2011 10:29 PM, Michael Meeks wrote: which is odd. Though much later than the other files - I assume you copied it in manually ? the scp2 looks fine in master: see Cor's (mind! I did copy oosplash to it) ;-) Thanks ! -- - Cor -

[Libreoffice] masterbuild 2011-10-03.. Linux x86: oosplash not found

2011-10-06 Thread Cor Nouws
(from location) hi, donwloaded and installed master-2011-10-03_13.33.17_li etc x86 this morning. On starting, error as per subject. Regards, Cor ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org

Re: [Libreoffice] masterbuild 2011-10-03.. Linux x86: oosplash not found

2011-10-06 Thread Cor Nouws
What fun :-) is there an 'oosplash' binary in the program/ directory ? my build puts one there. ls oo* No such file or folder... Ciao- Cor ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org

Re: [Libreoffice] masterbuild 2011-10-03.. Linux x86: oosplash not found

2011-10-06 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote (06-10-11 15:47) What fun :-) is there an 'oosplash' binary in the program/ directory ? my build puts one there. ls oo* No such file or folder... of course copying from an other installation makes the office run... Now some more fun :-D I installed

Re: [Libreoffice] masterbuild 2011-10-03.. Linux x86: oosplash not found

2011-10-06 Thread Cor Nouws
Michael Meeks wrote (06-10-11 17:02) On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 15:47 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote: What fun :-) is there an 'oosplash' binary in the program/ directory ? my build puts one there. ls oo* No such file or folder... Fun - what is in there ? can you attach a file

[Libreoffice] ODF plugfest Gouda, Netherlands, November 17, 18

2011-10-06 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi, I've seen an invitation for that ODF plugfest. Anyone planning to be there? Because of the distance, I could attend easily. At least partly. However, because of the content, others might be more in place there.. Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org

Re: [Libreoffice] MinGW cross-compilation: Runs!

2011-09-30 Thread Cor Nouws
Olivier Hallot wrote (30-09-11 01:09) These are great news indeed! Congratulations to all the team! +1 -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org

Re: [Libreoffice] Option convert-to

2011-09-27 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Arianne, Arianne Valdes Alvarez wrote (28-09-11 03:53) I'm studying how to convert an csv file to ods file. [...] This list is for developer issues. See. http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice For (all kind of) user questions, please see the Support tab on the website.

Re: [Libreoffice] Option convert-to

2011-09-27 Thread Cor Nouws
Cor Nouws wrote (28-09-11 06:45) For (all kind of) user questions, please see the Support tab on the website. Having connection with the website right now: http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/ -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org

Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Hiding/Showing the page breaks in writer

2011-09-27 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Cedric, cedric.bosdonnat@free.fr wrote (27-09-11 22:40) Regina (IIRC) mentioned break before or after. And currently, we only have before, AFAIAA. Hence my remark. (But don't get me wrong: I do not ask for a new feature here!) We can have page break after in the Text Flow tab... so I

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