Re: “Free Software”: An idea whose time has passed?

Thanks very much for forwarding that essay Danny! It makes a compelling argument, and I am inclined to agree. I'll be thinking about it more and deciding whether to move on from the FSF. (Presuming they do not engage with these points themselves...) On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 at 17:26,

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] List of free as in freedom programming language

Sadly, people are keen to confuse "programming language" with "programming language implementation", because so many languages have only one implementation (C being a notable counterexample). Only the latter is software. On 4 February 2016 at 09:12, aurelien wrote: > Koz

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] WTFPL Worse License Ever?

On 20 December 2015 at 03:02, Mark Holmquist wrote: > The GPL, for all the good it does in the world, is a more complex license > to administer and enforce. You must include license headers in all of the > files in your project, for example, which may not be a viable

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] copyleft for businesses

It's not noise - I was happy to receive both links :) On 28 October 2015 at 07:26, Catonano wrote: > > > 2015-10-27 17:03 GMT+01:00 Aaron Wolf : > >> Eben has been making that argument for a long time: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UneYZikN85Q > > >

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] The GNU ethical repository criteria will only harm free software.

Just to add: the owner could have physical access, just giving the administrator root access over the network (via public key encryption), in case people don't trust any VPS with physical access. On 18 October 2015 at 17:08, Ramana Kumar <ram...@member.fsf.org> wrote: > Koz, your messag

[libreplanet-discuss] Fwd: [BugProgramming] https (xrchz)

Does this response (below) make sense technically? I have my doubts. If it doesn't then I invite others on list to join me in putting some pressure on OkCupid, starting with just showing them how to deploy https and keep their ads. (If it does, then, depending on the details, perhaps that

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Fwd: [BugProgramming] https (xrchz)

... On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Will Rico willr...@gmail.com wrote: This does appear to be a Google issue. See this 'help' page from Google AdSense: http://support.google.com/adsense/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=10528 Will On 11/21/2012 09:39 AM, Ramana Kumar wrote: Does this response

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Fwd: [BugProgramming] https (xrchz)

, these are good ideas. I would appreciate knowing if anyone else is interested. On Nov 21, 2012 9:40 AM, Ramana Kumar ram...@member.fsf.org wrote: Does this response (below) make sense technically? I have my doubts. If it doesn't then I invite others on list to join me in putting some pressure

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Open source hardware - TEDx talk

That's not true. Designs can be debugged in simulation. On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 12:01 AM, Alexey Eromenko al4...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Ramana Kumar ram...@member.fsf.org wrote: very cool, thanks. Open-Source hardware is impossible for the community to debug

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Open source hardware - TEDx talk

very cool, thanks. On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Yogesh Girikumar yogeshg1...@gmail.comwrote: Something to think about :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgaGZyp5M8Y -- Y

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Steam for Linux

On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 10:12 AM, David Steinhafel d...@davidsteinhafel.comwrote: It seems most responders on the list are somewhat supportive of Steam on GNU/Linux because it may help increase exposure to GNU/Linux and Free Software. I did not get that impression at all. I saw people

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Android without Google

Presumably you've seen http://replicant.us already? On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:56 AM, librepla...@lewman.us wrote: I have recently acquired a refurbished Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7 (or 18cm). I never booted the stock rom, instead I flashed cyanogenmod 9.1 on it. I installed f-droid and mostly have

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Android without Google

Bignami nic...@kernel-panic.dnsdojo.net wrote: Il 09/10/2012 11:40, Ramana Kumar ha scritto: Presumably you've seen http://replicant.us already? Sadly Replicant at the moment is almost useless as it supports only 4 specific models (and the Galaxy Tab 2 is not supported). I hope this project

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] help with FSF incompatible but community oriented licence(s)

I don't understand how making your software non-free is solving your problems. These are the problems you said you have: 1. You want people to use your software (and derivatives?) without paying for it. 2. You want credit for your software, in particular, that any people using it can

[libreplanet-discuss] Tent Licensing

Tent looks somewhat promising to me as an alternative to centralised social networking. See https://tent.io for more details. They have started releasing software, and are currently using the MIT license. I suggested they use Apache 2.0 or AGPL, but simply linking to the FSF's licensing page on

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Breaking the garden walls

On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak rys...@fwioo.plwrote: Hi there, Since there is a discussion on Tent, I figure I might also ask your opinion on this: http://rys.io/en/88 | http://rys.io/en/88.txt I have been thinking about this for a while already. Basically I

[libreplanet-discuss] Makerbot Replicator 2

I've heard the new 3D printer from Makerbot now has closed hardware designs, and comes with proprietary software (MakerWare) that was built using free software. Does anyone have more information about this? Comments on this blog post,

[libreplanet-discuss] appreciation payment protocol

Dear LibrePlanet I am writing about the service that Flattr provides, and whether it can be done better. Flattr provides a way for people to make micropayments to each other. How it works: people put special links on stuff they made/own/want appreciated, and when people click those links, it gets

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] appreciation payment protocol

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.netwrote: Ramana Kumar wrote: Dear LibrePlanet I am writing about the service that Flattr provides, and whether it can be done better. Flattr provides a way for people to make micropayments to each other. How it works

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] appreciation payment protocol

or software, but could be... On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Ramana Kumar ramana.ku...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Ramana Kumar wrote: Dear LibrePlanet I am writing about the service that Flattr provides, and whether it can

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] appreciation payment protocol

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Mark Holmquist mtrac...@member.fsf.orgwrote: Any thoughts on how to make it work would be welcome. I like the bitcoin idea, but I think we can solve it much more simply: 1. User wants to give money to a project 2. If that user wants to give a tiny amount,

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [fossil-users] [OT] Who's interested in project management collaboration tools? And...

Assuming Patrick's description of Miles's business plan is correct, I want to add that I think it is an interesting and inspiring model for selling free software. Does anyone know if it has been tried or described before? It's a nicer version, perhaps, of the Sell it, Free it model described at

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] free email

, Thomas Harding t...@thomas-harding.name wrote: On 02/06/2012 09:47, Ramana Kumar wrote: I use Gmail and Google Calendar heavily, via the web interface. /your will/ I have been thinking about trying out Thunderbird and Lightning instead, to slowly migrate my life to less dependence on non

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Restricted Boot c

On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Bryan Baldwin br...@katofiad.co.nz wrote: Very soon we will see an unstoppable proliferation of tiny but powerful computers that are going to flood the world. They are our iPhone, and free software is the app store. Unleash it :} When is this supposed to

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] patents/drm/fs hardware compliance lawing/lobbying stuff will be done on wiki [was: Re: review respect of code of conduct on Manchester FAQ]

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Thomas Harding t...@thomas-harding.namewrote: On 02/08/2012 17:59, Quiliro Ordóñez wrote: Perhaps a separate page describing the position of Debian and why it is not convenient from the position of the FSF is in order for this topic. The Manchester FAQ page or

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] LibrePlanet 2012 recordings?

The archives are available, they are just *extremely *well hidden. For example, see when I asked the list about LibrePlanet 2012 recordings as well: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2012-05/msg00156.html There was no answer. On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Adam Bolte

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Linux grabs its single biggest win

On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Firas Al Kafri firaska...@fedoraproject.org wrote: What do you think of their problem with the GPL? What exactly are they doing wrt the GPL? I think it's fine for people to use GPL code for private stuff and not publish their stuff. and who's going to

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Free as in Freedom Production

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Patrick Anderson agnuc...@gmail.com wrote: Quiliro Ordóñez wrote: Is there a plan? I hope to finish a rough-draft this weekend. I will post it here at that time. I'm looking forward to this :)

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] free email

://emailcharter.org * *I'm an FSF member - Help us support software freedom! Join us!http://www.fsf.org/jf?referrer=2442 * On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Ramana Kumar ramana.ku...@gmail.comwrote: Dear LibrePlanet I use Gmail and Google Calendar heavily, via the web interface. I have been

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Label Campaign

These labels would also be very useful for network services. In particular I've been surprised by how difficult it was to find out that github is not free (especially because they have a link in their help pages saying this website is open source, but there's no prominent link to this post

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Label Campaign

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:24 AM, John Sullivan jo...@fsf.org wrote: Robert Martinez m...@mray.de writes: By appealing I mean big nice typo, not too much text, friendly colors and an easy to understand message. Not like a typical page on fsf.org. We don't intentionally make pages on

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Label Campaign

On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Robert Martinez m...@mray.de wrote: _international (avoiding letters/text) _clean in order to perform well on small sizes, too _black white for optimal reproduction on any background/material I think this one should be relaxed to looks good when rendered in

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] I have a Free Software licensing question

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 1:34 AM, zerothis baud zerothi...@gmail.com wrote: But getting to my point, I don't want people source diving to figure out the mechanics of this system and thereby finding ways to exploit it and 'artfully dodge' 'the rules'. Is that because the game would be less fun

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Skype Replacement?

Could you add a link to the Skype Replacement LibrePlanet Wiki page on the FSF High-Priority project page? Also, that page should probably mention Lightspark where it talks about Gnash. On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:56 PM, John Sullivan jo...@fsf.org wrote: Ramana Kumar ramana.ku...@gmail.com

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Tackling Network Effect

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:18 AM, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak rys...@fwioo.pl wrote: Dnia poniedziałek, 14 maja 2012 o 15:16:38 Ramana Kumar napisał(a): On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak We could create a *simple* directory protocol (no, LDAP won't do) for finding out

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Skype Replacement?

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Alexandre Dulaunoy a...@foo.be wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Alexey Eromenko al4...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not aware of any Free Software Skype replacement. (that's why FSF is calling to write one...) and what about http://jitsi.org/ Jitsi ? As

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Skype Replacement?

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Alexey Eromenko al4...@gmail.com wrote: IMO, Free Software can only compete with proprietary software, if there is one central registry de facto standard. Else you go the standard client/server route, where everyone needs own server, needs to configure

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Skype Replacement?

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Robert Martinez m...@mray.de wrote: My hint would be to try mumble. http://mumble.sourceforge.net/ It is basically a teamchat application for gamers I believe, and it totally depends on having a server, but usually you find some free slots very easily. best

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Skype Replacement?

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak rys...@fwioo.plwrote: Dnia poniedziałek, 14 maja 2012 o 12:08:16 Nikos Roussos napisał(a): I totally disagree with the central registry approach. Federation is always better for preserving freedom. Federation/decentralisation

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Skype Replacement?

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 12:21 PM, and...@lewman.com wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:09:14AM +0100, ramana.ku...@gmail.com wrote 10K bytes in 204 lines about: : only supported up to XP. Looking at the options I guessed Jitsi would be a : good choice. : we try XMPP/Jingle instead of SIP.

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Skype Replacement?

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak rys...@fwioo.plwrote: I have a better idea: use primarily protocol names, instead of application/project names. XMPP instead of Pidgin. E-Mail instead of Thunderbird. See - this works! Diaspora instead of Joindiaspora.com. SIP instead

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Skype Replacement?

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Alexey Eromenko al4...@gmail.com wrote: Do we have the manpower to solve these problems? If so, where is it? OSS / community projects start as an one-man-effort. Only if you volunteer. Just ask some organization (FSF? OSI?) to give you servers later, for

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Tackling Network Effect

: Dnia poniedziałek, 14 maja 2012 o 13:05:05 Ramana Kumar napisał(a): On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak (...) We need something like this for Free Somftware based services, as currently we are all taking a beating due to network effect (look at Twitter, Facebook

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Tackling Network Effect

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak rys...@fwioo.plwrote: Dnia poniedziałek, 14 maja 2012 o 13:05:05 Ramana Kumar napisał(a): On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak (...) We need something like this for Free Somftware based services

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Skype Replacement?

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Rudolf omo...@gmail.com wrote: We should form a project or task group for this and see which free software projects are actively working on this. I see some great ideas but without a roadmap and developers, not much will be accomplished. Does LibrePlanet have

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Skype Replacement?

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 7:41 PM, John Sullivan jo...@fsf.org wrote: Jitsi is the only one that's worked reliably for me for doing video calls, especially when the person on the other end is not using GNU/Linux. I use it through my own Asterisk server. Pity Java sucks so badly on my

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] New GNU

ideas on the wiki page and on this list. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Ramana Kumar ramana.ku...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks for mentioning Diaspora* - I actually hadn't heard of it before, and now I have requested an invite. It sounds like there are two actionable threads emerging from

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] New GNU

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Robert Martinez m...@mray.de wrote: I think you're stirring up everybody becauseyou say things like: I wanted to launch GNU anew with the focus being primarily on the goal of freedom. But GNU already HAS the primary goal of freedom! I believe your point is to