[License-discuss] using CC0 instead, and the limitations thereof (was Re: Certifying MIT-0)

2020-04-23 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Tobie Langel dixit: >iirc, the problem with CC0 is that the author explicitly retains all >patent rights (4a). Right, and it doesn’t even grant a licence to use, except under specifically limited to copyright law and neighbouring rights. >Probably not a legal issue for such cases, but may >well

Re: [License-discuss] Certifying MIT-0

2020-04-23 Thread Tobie Langel
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 20:03 Thorsten Glaser wrote: > For the > suggested use case, I’d say CC0 may be better, especially as > it’s not a work licence but licences the ability to licence > the work, so any recipient can licence the work under any OSI- > approved (or not, I guess) licence. Might

Re: [License-discuss] Certifying MIT-0

2020-04-23 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Josh Berkus dixit: >I would argue that, if there's nobody using it, we shouldn't approve it >as "technically OSS but not really needed". But if projects are using Didn’t we have a… resolution, or so… that licences that are the approved ones with only removal of restrictions (or changes to

Re: [License-discuss] Certifying MIT-0

2020-04-23 Thread McCoy Smith
> -Original Message- > From: License-discuss On > Behalf Of Josh Berkus > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:09 AM > To: license-discuss@lists.opensource.org; Richard Fontana > > Subject: Re: [License-discuss] Certifying MIT-0 > > > I would argue that, if there's nobody using it, we

Re: [License-discuss] Certifying MIT-0

2020-04-23 Thread Josh Berkus
On 4/22/20 7:33 PM, Richard Fontana wrote: > It seems likely it would be approved, given the approval a few years > ago of the similar, ISC-based license now known as Zero-Clause BSD, > though perhaps some would object on anti-proliferation grounds. Here is my non-proliferation question: Is

Re: [License-discuss] Certifying MIT-0

2020-04-23 Thread Jamie Clark
(smiles) JBC > On Apr 22, 2020, at 19:33, Richard Fontana wrote: > > people can have a strong authorial sort of interest even in minimalist > reductions of the most textually minimalist open source licenses. ___ The opinions expressed in this email

Re: [License-discuss] Certifying MIT-0

2020-04-23 Thread Tobie Langel
Thank you all for your thoughtful comments and great pointers. Let me know, Mark, if I can help draft the proposal. I have zero experience doing so, but at least it's fitting given the license name. :) And please feel free to copy me on the submission. I'll be happy to add my use case provided

Re: [License-discuss] Certifying MIT-0

2020-04-23 Thread Gil Yehuda via License-discuss
FWIW I thought the zLib license was a good alternative for this use-case (e.g. sample code that you expect people to use, modify and you don't want to be attributed). But MIT-0 has the Warranty disclaimer. Seems better for that reason. Gil Yehuda: I help with external technology engagement >From

Re: [License-discuss] Certifying MIT-0

2020-04-23 Thread Mark Atwood
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, at 08:28, McCoy Smith wrote: > You might want to check with original author before you do that, e.g., > https://romanrm.net/mit-zero > BSD0 is already approved: https://opensource.org/licenses/0BSD I hesitate to call them "the original author". Amazon independently

Re: [License-discuss] Certifying MIT-0

2020-04-23 Thread McCoy Smith
You might want to check with original author before you do that, e.g., https://romanrm.net/mit-zero BSD0 is already approved: https://opensource.org/licenses/0BSD > -Original Message- > From: License-discuss On > Behalf Of Mark Atwood > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 7:52 PM > To: