If there's no rational reason to use Lift, then perhaps you could find
another community to spend your time in.
I didn't say that there was no rational reason to use Lift BUT THAT YOU ARE
FAILING TO COMMUNICATE WHAT THAT REASON MIGHT BE TO POTENTIAL USERS! You
can't expect potential users to
Jonathan, your comments are someplace between not helpful and troll-like.
It'd be best if you did not continue to participate in this thread.
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:36 AM, jonathan mawson umpti...@gmail.com wrote:
If there's no rational reason to use Lift, then perhaps you could find
I think that Jonathan was impolite in expressing his frustration at being
misunderstood.
But are his points not valuable?
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David Pollakfeeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com wrote:
Jonathan, your comments are someplace between not helpful and troll-like.
It'd be best
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Naftoli Gugenheim naftoli...@gmail.comwrote:
I think that Jonathan was impolite in expressing his frustration at being
misunderstood.
First, don't you think that it's ironic that someone who was trying to teach
us about marketing was so incapable of expressing
Le 06/03/2010 06:58, Warren Henning a écrit :
tl;dr
Want a cookie for your efforts?
If you don't like Lift, don't use it. Problem solved. Hooray, turkey
for everyone!
I don't think that this type of email that is really constructive, and
I'm little surprised at it, Lift community is
cageface milese...@gmail.com writes:
[lots of stuff about layout]
I agree and as Marius wrote it's (the website at least) is a known issue
and is being worked on. But it's moving slowly.
I think the underlying problem here is that the Lift committers are
mostly code geeks and not really into
Firstly, Lift is not Rails. It really bugs me when people are like oh, well
rails does XYZ. Its apples and oranges in many respects - especially when you
consider the ages of the respective projects... Lift is much, much younger than
Rails. Moreover, Lift is a very advanced framework -more so
Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu writes:
Sorry Jeppe, but I disagree.
On which part :-) Maybe the not really into the visual
aesthetics. What I meant was not that we don't care, but more that we
will rather spend time on coding.
The issue to date has been getting someone to work on it
Warren Henning wrote:
tl;dr
Want a cookie for your efforts?
If you don't like Lift, don't use it. Problem solved. Hooray, turkey
for everyone!
There are few things sillier than investing time - serious time from lots of
people - in a framework aimed at programmers and then
Jeppe Nejsum Madsen wrote:
Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu writes:
Sorry Jeppe, but I disagree.
On which part :-) Maybe the not really into the visual
aesthetics. What I meant was not that we don't care, but more that we
will rather spend time on coding.
The issue to date
As this is likely to be very controversial, I'll recap one more time while my
gf finishes dying her hair -
- Don't ignore people like Mark. His feedback was detailed, thoughtful, and
invaluable if want non-committers to use Lift
- Do decide how you are going to position Lift. Position being
Timothy Perrett wrote:
By all means, come here with questions and you will find this group to be
very responsive and helpful, but do not come here and automatically assume
that you can illuminate to us the errors in our project marketing or
experience.
What's automatic about Mark's
Thanks for your comments.
I did Ruby/Rails for 2 years until I found Scala in November 2006.
Please allow me to rebut your thoughtful post.
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:43 PM, cageface milese...@gmail.com wrote:
Like many other web developers, I abandoned some heavyweight Java web
frameworks
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Warren Henning warren.henn...@gmail.comwrote:
tl;dr
Want a cookie for your efforts?
If you don't like Lift, don't use it. Problem solved. Hooray, turkey
for everyone!
Warren -- this comment is way out of bounds for the Lift list. You know I
love your
Re. branding == What can you do for me, just compare the sites from Grails
and Lift.
Grails:
Have your next Web 2.0 project done in weeks instead of months. Grails
delivers a new age of Java web application productivity.
- Ok, this is (claimed to be) a high productivity Web 2.0 framework.
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:02 AM, jonathan mawson umpti...@gmail.com wrote:
Timothy Perrett wrote:
By all means, come here with questions and you will find this group to be
very responsive and helpful, but do not come here and automatically
assume
that you can illuminate to us the
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:19 AM, jonathan mawson umpti...@gmail.com wrote:
As this is likely to be very controversial, I'll recap one more time while
my
gf finishes dying her hair -
- Don't ignore people like Mark. His feedback was detailed, thoughtful, and
invaluable if want non-committers
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:50 AM, jonathan mawson umpti...@gmail.com wrote:
Jeppe Nejsum Madsen wrote:
Timothy Perrett timo...@getintheloop.eu writes:
Sorry Jeppe, but I disagree.
On which part :-) Maybe the not really into the visual
aesthetics. What I meant was not that we don't
On Mar 6, 10:06 am, David Pollak feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com
wrote:
And where are the bugs in the existing user guide?
The only outright bug is that you can't copy paste the second maven
invocation and the fix is extremely non-obvious.
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You mistake different with harder. People who are used to one way to do
things will find different harder than the same.
No, I don't. Different *is* harder. When there is a convention it should be
followed unless there is a good reason not to do so. This is one of the half
dozen or so key
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 3:29 PM, jonathan mawson umpti...@gmail.com wrote:
You mistake different with harder. People who are used to one way to do
things will find different harder than the same.
No, I don't. Different *is* harder. When there is a convention it should be
followed unless
Like many other web developers, I abandoned some heavyweight Java web
frameworks about 6 years ago for Rails and have been working pretty
much exclusively in Rails ever since. However, I've always had a
secret lust for functional languages so when I heard about Scala and
Lift I decided to take a
tl;dr
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If you don't like Lift, don't use it. Problem solved. Hooray, turkey
for everyone!
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