Re: Overview of copyright issues + Debian

2009-09-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 01:05:35AM +0200, Joseph Wakeling wrote: Graham Percival wrote: Docs have always been FDLv1.1 or later. I was thinking about unilaterially changing them to FDLv1.3 or later, as soon as I've got GUB working. Great, that should simplify matters A LOT. Where in the

Re: Overview of copyright issues + Debian

2009-09-11 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Graham Percival wrote: The beginnings of the manuals. In my restructuring, that's now in macros.itexi, although this may well move to a third macro file. Hmm, I just noticed that the copyright years are messed up... I'll fix that fairly soon. Brilliant. So as far as the docs are concerned

Re: Overview of copyright issues + Debian

2009-09-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Joseph Wakeling wrote Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:10 PM What would be good is if as many contributors as possible can reply to this email just to OK (i) my putting copyright/licensing notices in the files they have contributed to and (ii) their licensing preferences for their

Re: Overview of copyright issues + Debian

2009-09-10 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Don Armstrong wrote: This is now my problem,[1] so I'll attempt to get it addressed at some point in the future. [I'd certainly like to see Lilypond at least clear up some of the issues so that the above can become correct.] Hmm, I noted you were listed as the Debian maintainer on Launchpad's

Re: Overview of copyright issues + Debian

2009-09-10 Thread Travis Briggs
The source material could be public domain, but the snippet itself is a 'derivative work' and is thus under the copyright of whoever made it. -Travis On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Valentin Villenave v.villen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Joseph Wakeling

Re: Overview of copyright issues + Debian

2009-09-10 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Donnerstag, 10. September 2009 16:21:34 schrieb Jan Nieuwenhuizen: Op donderdag 10-09-2009 om 15:28 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Valentin Villenave: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Joseph Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net wrote:

Re: Overview of copyright issues + Debian

2009-09-10 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 4aa8fadd.5050...@webdrake.net, Joseph Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net writes Now, future policies -- I would suggest new contributions be requested to follow these rules: -- for code, GPLv2 or later or a more liberal compatible license; NO NO NO. Some people are likely to

Re: Overview of copyright issues + Debian

2009-09-10 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Donnerstag, 10. September 2009 17:12:42 schrieb Anthony W. Youngman: In message 4aa8fadd.5050...@webdrake.net, Joseph Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net writes Now, future policies -- I would suggest new contributions be requested to follow

Re: Overview of copyright issues + Debian

2009-09-10 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: Because they are not allowed by copyright law. They cannot change the license if the file is only mostly their work. They can only change the license if the file is SOLELY their work. Well, technically they can release their bit of the file under their own license,

Re: Overview of copyright issues + Debian

2009-09-10 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Travis Briggs wrote: The source material could be public domain, but the snippet itself is a 'derivative work' and is thus under the copyright of whoever made it. What I recall from submitting to LSR was that I was asked to agree that by submitting this snippet, I was (a) consigning it to the

Re: Overview of copyright issues + Debian

2009-09-10 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Joseph Wakeling wrote: Don Armstrong wrote: (There are a significant number of files distributed in lilypond which are under v2 or later, or v3 or later, as well as things like input/mutopia/claop.py, which isn't even Free Software, as it cannot be modified.[2]) If

Re: Overview of copyright issues + Debian

2009-09-10 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 200909101742.10364.reinh...@kainhofer.com, Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com writes Am Donnerstag, 10. September 2009 17:12:42 schrieb Anthony W. Youngman: In message 4aa8fadd.5050...@webdrake.net, Joseph Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net writes Now, future policies -- I

Re: Overview of copyright issues + Debian

2009-09-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 03:10:53PM +0200, Joseph Wakeling wrote: (There are a significant number of files distributed in lilypond which are under v2 or later, or v3 or later, as well as things like input/mutopia/claop.py, which isn't even Free Software, as it cannot be modified.[2]) If

Re: Overview of copyright issues + Debian

2009-09-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:07:06PM +0100, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: In message 200909101742.10364.reinh...@kainhofer.com, Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com writes ... So we'll have the same problem again in some years... By then it will be even harder tracking down all contributors,

Re: Overview of copyright issues + Debian

2009-09-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:07:06PM +0100, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: In message 200909101742.10364.reinh...@kainhofer.com, Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com writes ... So we'll have the same problem again in some years... By then it will be even harder tracking down all contributors,

Re: Overview of copyright issues + Debian

2009-09-10 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Graham Percival wrote: Docs have always been FDLv1.1 or later. I was thinking about unilaterially changing them to FDLv1.3 or later, as soon as I've got GUB working. Great, that should simplify matters A LOT. Where in the source tree is the explicit statement of the 'or later' ... ?