Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

> On Oct 27, 2015, at 8:19 PM, Bruno Ruviaro wrote: > > It seems to me that Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/ > ) might be a good system in your case. Or maybe Gratipay (https://gratipay.com/) (formerly known as “gittip") which is based on

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

Hi David, Please let me know via separate e-mail how I can donate. And below is a suggestion of an alternative funding mechanism for you to consider in the future. It seems to me that Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/) might be a good system in your case. (disclaimer: I have never used it

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

> Or maybe Gratipay (https://gratipay.com/) (formerly known as > “gittip") which is based on continuous weekly payments – ongoing > contributions for ongoing work – rather than payment per creation. This is nice! However, it is US-based, which is less than optimal for EU citizens...

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

Il giorno sab 24 ott 2015 alle 13:08, Federico Bruni ha scritto: 3) GITSTATS The gitstats linked in the sponsoring pages are a great idea but they are out-of-date (november 2012). Any chance to keep them up-to-date automatically? Also, I'd rather link to the Authors tab:

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

Yes, naturally PayPal takes commission. So does your bank, any credit card provider, WorldPay or Moneygram or any other similar service. However, PayPal is secure and reliable enough for Amazon and a huge number of online stores to be happy using it, not to mention charitable organizations that

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

On 25/10/15 11:08, Chris Yate wrote: > As I understand it, there are some differences in the commission payable > for sending money to a friend vs buying a thing, but I've not looked > into it for a couple of years. We were investigating it for managing our > orchestra subs - I think it was about

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

> On Oct 22, 2015, at 2:55 PM, ciconia wrote: > > I'm sure many would agree with me that your hard work (and indeed that of > all lilypond contributors) is greatly appreciated. +1 I hope this appeal will lead to a more financially viable situation that will allow you to

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

Jacques Menu writes: > Hello folks, > > I’m only an amateur musician, but I really appreciate Lilypond’s > availability. I haven’t been creating scores any other way since I > first encountered it at the time of version 2.12. > > Current example : Bach’s Magnificat, in

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

Simon Albrecht writes: > On 22.10.2015 19:21, David Kastrup wrote: >> As you all know, my sole source of income are donations from happy >> LilyPond users. It would appear that LilyPond users have stopped being >> happy with my work. > > You must know that this is not

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

Robert Schmaus writes: > I can only subscribe to what Simon (and all other responders) wrote. > > Like Urs pointed out, that the absence of any reports about the > financial situation on the developer side left me under the impression > that it wasn't really problematic.

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

All of the stuff I decided to sponsor (Ardour, GNU, Dawkins, Wikipedia, Jacob Colier...) I sponsored through Paypal. For the recipients getting 95% of the amount was still much better than getting nothing. I would still sponsor Lilypond development and have tried in the past but found it a lot

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

> I suggest David, or one of the other project owners set up a Paypal > account that we can easily fire money off to from anywhere in the world, > anonymously. Paypal ? I would NEVER pay via Paypal unless it would be absolutely crucial for me and there were no other options. For once to my

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

Happy to donate. Just need to know how :) -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/My-finances-for-working-on-LilyPond-tp182552p182631.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

Il giorno ven 23 ott 2015 alle 15:19, Federico Bruni ha scritto: I agree, but I think that we can easily improve the situation. A few simple ideas: 1) DOWNLOAD PAGE What's the most viewed page in the website (excluding the home)? Probably the download page:

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

On Fri, 23 Oct 2015, Ivan Kuznetsov wrote: > Maybe the Linux Foundation can help us set up a Lilypond foundation? > > Are there any lawyers on this list that can donate their time? > > Or perhaps Lilypond software can become sponsored by the Linux Foundation? The fact that the package is named

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

Dear all, I contributed before, maybe I will join it again, didn't know the situation was so bad. Something I requested many years ago was the support for quarter-tone tablatures notation, which seems to work but is actually buggy at the moment, it generates wrong tablatures in strings with

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

http://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/1741/ On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote: > Dear all, > > I contributed before, maybe I will join it again, didn't know the > situation was so bad. > > Something I requested many years ago was the

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

Hi Frederico, > In 6 years I've been following LilyPond I've never seen a bounty having > success. I’ve personally sponsored ten or so that have had success! =) n.b. Some may have been more than six years ago, and many (most?) happened “off-list”. However, I must admit that recently (e.g.,

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

Am 23.10.2015 um 17:47 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: > Hi Frederico, > >> In 6 years I've been following LilyPond I've never seen a bounty having >> success. > I’ve personally sponsored ten or so that have had success! =) n.b. Some may > have been more than six years ago, and many (most?)

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

If I can throw in a couple thoughts: My experience with open-source projects has usually been that they are, largely, labors of love. Almost none of them manage to run as commercial enterprises unless they somehow managed to capture a new market segment at some point (like Red Hat Linux trying

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

I can only subscribe to what Simon (and all other responders) wrote. Like Urs pointed out, that the absence of any reports about the financial situation on the developer side left me under the impression that it wasn't really problematic. I can understand that it's not pleasant sending out

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

Il giorno gio 22 ott 2015 alle 23:09, Urs Liska ha scritto: As to sponsoring individual features there is a tradition (?) of bounties. You can ask for a feature or report a bug that annoys you personally on the bug-lilypond mailing list and say that you are willing to

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

On 23/10/15 05:48, Jacques Menu wrote: > So, David, please send me your IBAN privately, and I’ll fix this problem on > my side. I know there's all this fuss about putting bank accounts on the web, but here (in the UK) we have bank accounts that can't originate transactions, and can't have an

RE: My finances for working on LilyPond

David, I appreciate all you do to bring us a better LilyPond. As much as we all enjoy new feature releases, I also encourage you to continue with the important infrastructure work you often focus on, making the codebase more robust, maintainable, understandable. Glad to contribute! Javier

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

> Well, this *something* seems easy to pin down: too few developers. So at > any given moment it is difficult to find someone who has the ability, > the interest, and spare time at the same moment. ... Could we expect to be paid for it? I don't expect to be paid for open-source work. In fact,

Feature Requests (was: Re: My finances for working on LilyPond)

On 23.10.2015 20:31, Bernardo Barros wrote: Something I requested many years ago was the support for quarter-tone tablatures notation, which seems to work but is actually buggy at the moment, it generates wrong tablatures in strings with quarter-tones alterations etc. Did it receive some

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

Maybe the Linux Foundation can help us set up a Lilypond foundation? Are there any lawyers on this list that can donate their time? Or perhaps Lilypond software can become sponsored by the Linux Foundation? N. Andrew Walsh wrote: > > ... a foundation ... > > It's a

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

On Fri, 2015-10-23 at 03:10 +0200, Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 22.10.2015 19:21, David Kastrup wrote: > > As you all know, my sole source of income are donations from happy > > LilyPond users. It would appear that LilyPond users have stopped > > being > > happy with my work. > > You must know

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

dak wrote > As you all know, my sole source of income are donations from happy > LilyPond users. It would appear that LilyPond users have stopped being > happy with my work. I'm sure many would agree with me that your hard work (and indeed that of all lilypond contributors) is greatly

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

Hi, So I am new to this list. I saw this email and thought that I might contribute. However, I cannot find donation location on the Lilypond site: http://www.lilypond.org/sponsoring.html Where should I go? Devin P.S. It would behoove you to put a donate button at least on the site I give

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

Replying to this initial message but addressing others' comments too. There is no such thing as a "Donate" button on the website because there is no such thing as an "organization" of LilyPond that could be supported. What we are talking about is an individual developer who tries to back up his

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

2015-10-22 19:21 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup : > > As you all know, my sole source of income are donations from happy > LilyPond users. It would appear that LilyPond users have stopped being > happy with my work. > > I've taken a look at my last bank report. In the last month I

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

On 22.10.2015 19:21, David Kastrup wrote: As you all know, my sole source of income are donations from happy LilyPond users. It would appear that LilyPond users have stopped being happy with my work. You must know that this is not the case. I should be much surprised if I were the only one

Re: My finances for working on LilyPond

Hello folks, I’m only an amateur musician, but I really appreciate Lilypond’s availability. I haven’t been creating scores any other way since I first encountered it at the time of version 2.12. Current example : Bach’s Magnificat, in which I partly double the cello with the bassoon, has