Re: Sprechgesang

2020-11-01 Thread Massimiliano Viel
Thank you, I was in fact interested in the notation of Pierrot Lunaire’ “Den Wein", which Schoenberg abandoned later to adopt the “Humperdinck” one. Thank you for the material, I’ll try to study it and understand how it works. Best Massimiliano > On 1 Nov 2020, at 21:43, Thomas Morley

Re: Sprechgesang

2020-11-01 Thread Massimiliano Viel
Hi, yes the code was pretty old, about 2007. So it is good to have updated this topic in the forum. Thank you to you and everybody! unofortunately I use Lilypond only once in a while, so I don’t use it enough to develop a deep knowledge as I would like. first one who writes a book/tutorial on

Re: Sprechgesang

2020-11-01 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Hi Massimiliano, the code you provided is _very_ old. I modified it a bit in order to work with both possible stem directions and respect rests. Also, there was a hard-coded offset for the cross that can more succinctly be replaced by a \center-align. I also lenghened the stems a bit. Note

Re: Sprechgesang

2020-10-31 Thread Massimiliano Viel
Thank you for the answer. Now it works fine… still, to be perfect, I should to find a way to extend the stem so that the x can find its comfortable place on it. And another possibly outrageous question… when I invoke \sp, it works from the first following note on to the last note, rests

Re: Sprechgesang

2020-10-31 Thread Robin Bannister
Massimiliano Viel wrote: I receive the following message of error: Wrong number of arguments to ly:stencil-combine-at-edge Why is that? As far as I can understand the number of arguments is fine! The last parameter was dropped quite some time ago. You should have run it through

Sprechgesang

2020-10-31 Thread Massimiliano Viel
Hello everybody, I would like to use Schoenberg’s original symbol for sprechgesang… Specifically, the x on the stem you find in the score of Pierrot Lunaire. I found a snippet in the forum, which is: sp = { \override Voice.Stem #'stencil = #(lambda (grob) (ly:stencil

Re: Sprechgesang

2007-01-27 Thread Till Rettig
Hi, definitely interesting might be, that the autographs from Schönberg himself doen't contain this special symbols, but he set a cross instead of a notehead. Confer to http://www.schoenberg.at/6_archiv/music/works/op/compositions_op21_sources_e.htm# for instance page 12 of the cathegory B.

Re: sprechgesang

2007-01-26 Thread Bertalan Fodor
However, I'm truly puzzled by the fact that the crosses are also attached to rests because we explicitly override the stencil property of _Stem_. It would be news to me that rests also possess stems. I think they do, because there can be stemlets above rests in situations like this c[ r d]

Re: sprechgesang

2007-01-26 Thread Bertalan Fodor
} } René, I hope, you send us a part of your score to see how beautiful the sprechgesang is :-) Bert ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: sprechgesang

2007-01-26 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
#noteheads.s2cross } } René, I hope, you send us a part of your score to see how beautiful the sprechgesang is :-) this is a bit odd, because stem does not usually have 'text. It's better to use (define (grob-text grob text) (let* ((layout (ly:grob-layout grob)) (defs

Re: sprechgesang

2007-01-26 Thread Bertalan Fodor
Now, that's a solution I could have not figured myself, because it needs more knowledge. For example from where in the doc could I figure out that interpret-markup is part of ly:text-interface and what it does? The doc for ly:output-def-lookup is also strange: ly:output-def-lookup pap sym def

Re: sprechgesang

2007-01-26 Thread René Bastian
#-1.025 \fontsize #-4 \musicglyph #noteheads.s2cross } } René, I hope, you send us a part of your score to see how beautiful the sprechgesang is :-) Bert Köszönöm Bertalan ! Sure, I'll send that part - but it's not finished. I find the problem is not only to get something which

sprechgesang

2007-01-25 Thread René Bastian
Dear list, I need the sprechgesang symbol (a stem with an x, as in Schoenberg's Pierrot Lunaire) ; I did'nt find it. See- -ro-se dient als Boot -- René Bastian http://www.musiques-rb.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http

Re: sprechgesang

2007-01-25 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Bastian wrote: Dear list, I need the sprechgesang symbol (a stem with an x, as in Schoenberg's Pierrot Lunaire) ; I did'nt find it. See- -ro-se dient als Boot -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems

Re: sprechgesang

2007-01-25 Thread Bertalan Fodor
. /Mats René Bastian wrote: Dear list, I need the sprechgesang symbol (a stem with an x, as in Schoenberg's Pierrot Lunaire) ; I did'nt find it. See- -ro-se dient als Boot ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http

Re: sprechgesang

2007-01-25 Thread Bertalan Fodor
the sprechgesang symbol (a stem with an x, as in Schoenberg's Pierrot Lunaire) ; I did'nt find it. See- -ro-se dient als Boot ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: sprechgesang

2007-01-25 Thread Bertalan Fodor
: Dear list, I need the sprechgesang symbol (a stem with an x, as in Schoenberg's Pierrot Lunaire) ; I did'nt find it. See- -ro-se dient als Boot ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond

Re: sprechgesang

2007-01-25 Thread René Bastian
Le Jeudi 25 Janvier 2007 15:11, Bertalan Fodor a écrit : Now, just for fun, I've recreated http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Schoenberg_Mondestrunken_opening.png spDown = { \override Voice.Stem #'stencil = #(lambda (grob) (ly:stencil-combine-at-edge (ly:stem::print grob) 1 1

Re: sprechgesang

2007-01-25 Thread Bertalan Fodor
\revert Stem #'stencil I think, I haven't tried. --- Original Message --- From: René Bastian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: 07. 01. 25., 17:45:21 Subject: Re: sprechgesang Le Jeudi 25 Janvier 2007 15:11, Bertalan Fodor a écrit : Now, just for fun, I've