Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far

Blöchl Bernhard writes: > Am 05.10.2015 02:29, schrieb Ivan Kuznetsov: >> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Karen S. Billings >> wrote: > >>> >>> How would somebody like me gain access to vi (and other Unix-like >>> tools)? >> > > Recommended:

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far

Am 05.10.2015 08:32, schrieb David Kastrup: ... LilyPond somewhere offers a lilydev VM that can be started under Windows. ... http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/contributor/lilydev There is a chapter Installing LilyDev in VirtualBox May be that is what David mentioned? (I

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far

Am 05.10.2015 02:29, schrieb Ivan Kuznetsov: On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Karen S. Billings wrote: How would somebody like me gain access to vi (and other Unix-like tools)? Recommended: Trash Windows, free yourself and use Linux and Frescobaldi Second best:

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far

Quarto Nonas Novembres MMXV scripsit Ivan Kuznetsov : > > How would somebody like me gain access to vi (and other Unix-like tools)? > > By using Lilypond under Linux. For the specific case of vi(m), there is a perfectly fine version of gvim for Windows (this is usually the very first program I

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/15 03:40, Colin Campbell wrote: > On 15-10-04 06:29 PM, Ivan Kuznetsov wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Karen S. Billings >> wrote: >>> I'm a former Bell Labs engineer, where I used Unix (vi, awk, >>> shell,

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far

On 10/4/15 8:40 PM, "Colin Campbell" wrote: >On 15-10-04 06:29 PM, Ivan Kuznetsov wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Karen S. Billings >>wrote: >>> I'm a former Bell Labs engineer, where I used Unix (vi, awk, shell, >>>etc.) everyday. >>> I got so used

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far

On 15-10-04 06:29 PM, Ivan Kuznetsov wrote: On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Karen S. Billings wrote: I'm a former Bell Labs engineer, where I used Unix (vi, awk, shell, etc.) everyday. I got so used to using those tools, and I find I miss their power... I'm really

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far

On Sun, Oct 04, 2015 at 07:51:49AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > Paul Scott writes: > > > On Sat, Oct 03, 2015 at 10:00:39PM -0400, PMA wrote: > >> Hear, hear! > >> > >> Ivan Kuznetsov wrote: > >> >Do yourself a serious favor and learn vi > > > > Or Emacs! > > At the

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far

On Sat, 3 Oct 2015, Paul Scott wrote: Do yourself a serious favor and learn vi Or Emacs! Oh no .. not a Vi(m) vs Emacs discussion again! Do I see a connection with the average age thread that was here recently? (many 50+ people here) BTW: I use Vim. Not because it's better or worse but

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far

Paul Scott writes: > On Sun, Oct 04, 2015 at 07:51:49AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: >> Paul Scott writes: >> >> > On Sat, Oct 03, 2015 at 10:00:39PM -0400, PMA wrote: >> >> Hear, hear! >> >> >> >> Ivan Kuznetsov wrote: >> >> >Do yourself a

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far.

vi nice if you don't want to use your mouse. It's very fast once you learn it. If you're on Windows using Notepad, try Notepad++ ( https://notepad-plus-plus.org/) But Frescobaldi is the best! (http://frescobaldi.org/) Knute Snortum (via Gmail) On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Edward Ardzinski

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/15 09:08, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: > > On Sat, 3 Oct 2015, Paul Scott wrote: > Do yourself a serious favor and learn vi >> >> Or Emacs! > > Oh no .. not a Vi(m) vs Emacs discussion again! Do I see a > connection with the average age

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far.

I donwloaded and installed Frescobaldi. I'm giving it a test run now, finishing up a piece I'm working on. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/2-18-2-Thoughts-so-far-tp181962p181991.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far.

I think I'm going to like Frescobaldi - especially building up the snippets I need... Now to see how long I stay on this version. LOL Thanks! -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/2-18-2-Thoughts-so-far-tp181962p181992.html Sent from the User mailing list

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far.

On 2015-10-04 22:00, Edward Ardzinski wrote: I think I'm going to like Frescobaldi - especially building up the snippets I need... Now to see how long I stay on this version. LOL One (of many) advantages with using Frescobaldi is that you can configure it for multiple versions of Lilypond.

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far

On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Karen S. Billings wrote: > > I'm a former Bell Labs engineer, where I used Unix (vi, awk, shell, etc.) > everyday. > I got so used to using those tools, and I find I miss their power... > > I'm really struggling to learn how to use the "tools"

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far

Edward Ardzinski writes: > 1) I was apparently following some good practices in 2.6.5, since what I've > done in 2.18.2 has been essentially seamless. But... > > a) I miss my old editor, as I had a lot of code shortcuts built in it. > Still, I had not

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far

Martin's "\pointAndClickOff " did the trick, but "#(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f) " was what I used to use, David. Frescobaldi is where I'm headed. But I think an extended time using the native tools will do me some good. Even some of my oldest files were difficult to revise, even using

2.18.2 - Thoughts so far

1) I was apparently following some good practices in 2.6.5, since what I've done in 2.18.2 has been essentially seamless. But... a) I miss my old editor, as I had a lot of code shortcuts built in it. Still, I had not updated it in many years, so there was an ancillary text file of

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far

On Sat, 3 Oct 2015, Edward Ardzinski wrote: 4) One final thought, as my snippets/code are in purgatory - what's the code switch at the beginning of the input file to turn off the point-n-click in the PDF output? Thx!!! In the source use: \pointAndClickOff Or on the commandline:

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far

Do yourself a serious favor and learn vi Edward Ardzinski wrote: > > with Notepad [...] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far

Hear, hear! Ivan Kuznetsov wrote: Do yourself a serious favor and learn vi ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far.

I've been exposed to vi through work, and really failed to see the "thing" that fuels the vi fan club. Actually I can't recall the other side of that turf war, but I know that Notepad is not even a dream in that conflagration. Notepad has it's limitations, but...it's predictable. At least to a

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far

Paul Scott writes: > On Sat, Oct 03, 2015 at 10:00:39PM -0400, PMA wrote: >> Hear, hear! >> >> Ivan Kuznetsov wrote: >> >Do yourself a serious favor and learn vi > > Or Emacs! At the current point of time, I find LilyPond-mode not a convincing case for using Emacs. I

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far

On Sat, Oct 03, 2015 at 10:00:39PM -0400, PMA wrote: > Hear, hear! > > Ivan Kuznetsov wrote: > >Do yourself a serious favor and learn vi Or Emacs! Paul ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org