Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-31 Thread Donald Fonseca
Wow!!! Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Lincoln on behalf of Debra Daugherty Sent: Monday, January 24, 2022 5:49:23 PM To: Lynne Smith Cc: Lincoln Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartment

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-26 Thread Sara Mattes
The reality of housing mix does reflect diversity- type and cost. A significant portion of that diversity exists near the train station and mall. We cannot ensure racial or ethnic diversity with zoning changes or housing choices. We can increase, to some degree, lower cost housing. But what had

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-26 Thread Bob Kupperstein
Sara, With all due respect, "It has worked in the past" is a subjective statement. It has worked "for whom", in achieving "what goals"? Certainly not in *allowing the opportunity for more diverse populations to move to Lincoln;* certainly not in *providing more affordable housing*. I know

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-26 Thread John F. Carr
One does not achieve diversity and all that by the ritual chants of slogans at meetings. One achieves diversity by allowing diverse people to live here. If that is a goal we need lower priced housing in a convenient place. The new zoning district would be within walking distance of a good

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-25 Thread Sara Mattes
Well, to that last sentence-this is what Lincoln has been doing since the 70s…usually 2 steps ahead of any other town. We have done it thoughtfully, with full-town participation and consensus through Town Meeting This is NOT the process of the suggested zoning changes. And, does anyone

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-25 Thread Bijoy Misra
Chris, Please read "human values". Thank you. Bijoy On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 5:22 PM Chris McCarthy wrote: > Why would anyone be concerned with christian values when determining > housing policy? There is however an otherworldly housing affordability > problem in the Greater Boston area, with

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-25 Thread Kathryn Anagnostakis
On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 4:58 PM Bijoy Misra wrote: > Dear Allen, > You might recall my objection to similar comments of yours in the meeting > of the Housing Commission. > We should keep away from any thoughts of creating a "serving class" > through the town housing stock. > Some of us are lucky

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-25 Thread Chris McCarthy
Why would anyone be concerned with christian values when determining housing policy? There is however an otherworldly housing affordability problem in the Greater Boston area, with Lincoln being a prime example of entrenched nimbyism. Imagine suggesting the possibility that we forego funding or

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-25 Thread Stephanie Smoot
Well, no doubt housing that density could be accomplished on a Lincoln lot. Should we build 15 units per acre because the state says so? How about some affordable (with a small a) single family houses? Ted may be referring to Coldbrook Crossing on Route 117 with almost 300 Pulte units coming

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-25 Thread Bijoy Misra
Dear Allen, You might recall my objection to similar comments of yours in the meeting of the Housing Commission. We should keep away from any thoughts of creating a "serving class" through the town housing stock. Some of us are lucky to have better incomes or being born to wealth. A serving

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-25 Thread Ted Chan
At the end of the day about our town values, which we need to establish collectively. Perhaps the Select Board can provide a motion to the town committee for how they recommend the town proceeds. Our family lives on a 5.7 acre lot (60% wetlands) that borders that town center, with more frontage

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-25 Thread Margaret Olson
One way to think about this: there are 43,000 square feet in an acre. If the developer builds fifteen 1,500 square foot apartments in a three story building with the lower level devoted to parking (in other words, units on the 2nd and third floors), they are covering 11,000 square feet of that

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-25 Thread Stephanie Smoot
It would have to be dense housing with little or no parking in to achieve density to support public transportation and to force the residents to use it. Plus new parking takes up a lot of space and causes stormwater run-off problems.These models work well in small cities and big towns like

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-25 Thread Michael Moodie
Well said, Allen. Especially your last sentence. Michael Moodie On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 11:24 AM Allen Vander Meulen wrote: > It should also be noted that the “density” metric is measured on a per lot > basis. > > Lincoln Woods has been cited in this thread as a “high density” > development,

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-25 Thread Allen Vander Meulen
It should also be noted that the “density” metric is measured on a per lot basis. Lincoln Woods has been cited in this thread as a “high density” development, but property contains a lot of wetland and conservation land, as well as a septic treatment plant set well back from the rest of the

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-24 Thread Stephanie Smoot
We do have a bus stop and I have used it for a couple of months. It is a lot cheaper to take a bus ($2.50 a ride) than the train ($8.50 a ride) but you will pay in time and gas. It takes about 2.5 hours to get into Boston via Alewife from my unit in South Lincoln. Yes, thats one way. The bus

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-24 Thread Margaret Olson
The Housing Choice Act covers "by right" zoning. Specifically, to comply we would need to zone 50 acres at 15 units per acre. The Oriole Landing buildings are consistent with that density. The act does not address housing construction or the current multi-family housing inventory. It is concerned

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-24 Thread Joan Kimball
I believe that many existing units count. Could someone please clarify? Planning Board? Many of us want to help with the housing crisis in this part of MA. And i appreciate that there are differing opinions. May we continue to be civil as we are doing now. Joan On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 7:54 PM

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-24 Thread Debra Daugherty
I guess I wish they would just take into consideration the housing we already have. There are 120 units next to the Hanscom bus stop (Battle Road Farm) not to mention all the HAFB units. That's a ton of units. There's a lot of open land on the Hanscom Air Field lot right across the street from the

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-24 Thread Bob Mason
I don't (yet) have a POV on the specifics of this legislation nor the feasibility for Lincoln, but I do wonder about a moral responsibility to reconsider wholesale housing policy in towns like Lincoln. It is my understanding that part of the housing crises that have plagued San Francisco, Los

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-24 Thread Margaret Olson
Richard, Yes, most of that land is in the National Park. In my view, considering Lincoln a bus community (which gives us tighter deadlines) is not reasonable given the location of the bus stop. Margaret On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 6:49 PM Richard Panetta wrote: > Margaret, > > > Would the property

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-24 Thread Richard Panetta
Margaret, Would the property near the bus stop be an area of concern as well then? Or would most of that land be in the National Park district? Rich On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 6:45 PM Margaret Olson wrote: > Sara, > The original map published in the Squirrel was incorrect. This is my fault > -

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-24 Thread Margaret Olson
Sara, The original map published in the Squirrel was incorrect. This is my fault - I made that map and made a mistake in the GIS. This was brought to my attention in the comments; Alice contacted me and she updated the article with the corrected map. What the updated map shows is that in order to

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-24 Thread Sara Mattes
Debra, This legislation has defined “Transit oriented” to just about every city and town, as long as they are anywhere near transit. And, transit is rather loosely defined. Lincoln is identified as having bus transit. How many in town know that there is a bus route and how many have access to it>

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-24 Thread maureen
would agree given pressure to build inordinate amount of multi units. We are not Newton which can absorb more multi unit housing. Maureen Malin > On January 24, 2022 5:49 PM Debra Daugherty wrote: > > > Can we eliminate our MBTA stop? Is that an option? (I'm not saying it's > the

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-24 Thread Sara Mattes
Very interesting, and there will be serious push-back. Note-"That is the message Massachusetts is sending to 175 cities and suburbs in the Boston area, as a bill passed last year to boost housing production begins to take effect

Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-24 Thread Debra Daugherty
Can we eliminate our MBTA stop? Is that an option? (I'm not saying it's the right choice. Just wondering whether it is a choice.) On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 5:29 PM Lynne Smith wrote: > An interesting article for Lincoln. > > >

[LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

2022-01-24 Thread Lynne Smith
An interesting article for Lincoln. https://slate.com/business/2022/01/massachusetts-zoning-apartments-housing-transit.html Lynne Smith 5 Tabor Hill Road Lincoln, MA 01773 781-258-1175 Sent from my iPhone -- The LincolnTalk mailing list. To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. Search