Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-20 Thread Thomas Brand
On Tue, September 20, 2016 17:03, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: > On 09/20/2016 01:25 PM, Robin Gareus wrote: > >> >> Rui already has a working standalone prototype (no timebase support >> yet, but it's a good start). >> > > jftr. there's these posted upstream: > https://github.com/Ableton/link/pull/5 >

Re: [LAD] ALSA Sequencer timestamp on event without scheduling

2016-09-20 Thread Clemens Ladisch
Felipe Ferreri Tonello wrote: > On 20/09/16 15:26, Clemens Ladisch wrote: >> In other words: any application that does care about timestamps will >> never see your timestamps. > > Yes. And that's why my first question. > > How can we implement this timestamp feature in ALSA with the current >

Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-20 Thread Tito Latini
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Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-20 Thread Rui Nuno Capela
On 09/20/2016 04:08 PM, Paul Davis wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Rui Nuno Capela > wrote: > > [... ] > just my 2eur. > > > with real world exchange rates based on expertise and wisdom, i'd say > that's about US$1M's worth of

Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-20 Thread Louigi Verona
Thanks, Paul and Rui, very interesting info. On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Paul Davis wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: > >> [... ] >> just my 2eur. >> > > with real world exchange rates based on expertise and

Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-20 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: > [... ] > just my 2eur. > with real world exchange rates based on expertise and wisdom, i'd say that's about US$1M's worth of insight. ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list

Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-20 Thread Rui Nuno Capela
On 09/20/2016 01:25 PM, Robin Gareus wrote: > > Rui already has a working standalone prototype (no timebase support yet, > but it's a good start). > jftr. there's these posted upstream: https://github.com/Ableton/link/pull/5 https://github.com/Ableton/link/pull/6 however, for the time

Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-20 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > > > The people who designedand wrote Link are entirely familiar with JACK (if > > only because I taught them about it). > > > > We know that. So are the people at Google who used JACK as the basic > design

Re: [LAD] ALSA Sequencer timestamp on event without scheduling

2016-09-20 Thread Felipe Ferreri Tonello
Hi Clemens, On 20/09/16 15:26, Clemens Ladisch wrote: > Felipe Ferreri Tonello wrote: >> On 19/09/16 13:27, Clemens Ladisch wrote: >>> And applications that care about the time of received events >>> tell the sequencer to overwrite the timestamp with the actual delivery >>> time anyway. >> >>

Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-20 Thread Patrick Shirkey
> The people who designedand wrote Link are entirely familiar with JACK (if > only because I taught them about it). > We know that. So are the people at Google who used JACK as the basic design reference for their attempt at low latency audio. > I too was a bit disappointed when Link was

Re: [LAD] ALSA Sequencer timestamp on event without scheduling

2016-09-20 Thread Clemens Ladisch
Felipe Ferreri Tonello wrote: > On 19/09/16 13:27, Clemens Ladisch wrote: >> And applications that care about the time of received events >> tell the sequencer to overwrite the timestamp with the actual delivery >> time anyway. > > Applications only need to care about the timestamp field for that

Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-20 Thread Paul Davis
The people who designedand wrote Link are entirely familiar with JACK (if only because I taught them about it). I too was a bit disappointed when Link was announced (last Novemeber) because it seemed redundant given JACK transport. But once they released the SDK for iOS and later the code for all

Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-20 Thread Ronald Stewart
people still use abelton? geez with NI tractor ns8 I can't imagine or phathom needing a slow antiquated midi based performance piece LOL Ron Stewart On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Robin Gareus wrote: > On 09/20/2016 01:40 PM, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > > > >> On 09/20/2016

Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-20 Thread Patrick Shirkey
> On 09/20/2016 07:03 AM, Patrick Shirkey wrote: >> >> Because netjack isn't good enough > > correct. > > jack can have a single timebase master and likewise netjack has a single > net-master. > > Ableton-Link is decentralized: Multiple performers can interact with > each other on an equal level

Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-20 Thread Robin Gareus
On 09/20/2016 07:03 AM, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > > Because netjack isn't good enough correct. jack can have a single timebase master and likewise netjack has a single net-master. Ableton-Link is decentralized: Multiple performers can interact with each other on an equal level (no master/slave

Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-20 Thread Tito Latini
On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 12:04:53AM +0200, Robin Gareus wrote: > On 09/19/2016 11:56 PM, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > > > >> why? > >> > >> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 5:44 PM, Tito Latini > >> wrote: > >> > >>> What is the content of the network packets ? > >>> > >>> Regardless,

Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 07:03:58 +0200, Patrick Shirkey wrote: >Because netjack isn't good enough or cross platform enough or LGPL >enough or adopted enough? Hi, yes, it's not cross platform enough. Audiobus and other iPad apps provide Ableton Link. Jack doesn't run on the iPad anymore, so there