Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-22 Thread Patrick Shirkey
> On 09/22/2016 07:30 PM, Tito Latini wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 09:16:12AM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: >> [...] >>> > Ableton have now done that, albeit by circumventing the hardest parts >>> of >>> > the problem (a tempo map with varying meter and tempo). >> What? >> >> I repeat: that's not

Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-22 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Tito Latini wrote: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:49:42PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > > The innovation is defining an API and protocol based on 3 concepts: > > > > tempo synchronization > > an integral to get the position with the new bpm

Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-22 Thread Tito Latini
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 07:58:03PM +0200, Robin Gareus wrote: > [...] > Also coming up with a protocol is the easier part. Documenting it, > pushing it out to users, gaining traction in the industry etc is the > hard part. opus-codec is an example of authentic Art (rfc, code, etc) and not

Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-22 Thread Tito Latini
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:49:42PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > The innovation is defining an API and protocol based on 3 concepts: > > tempo synchronization an integral to get the position with the new bpm > beat alignment ask to live coders > phase alignment related to beat

Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-22 Thread Robin Gareus
On 09/22/2016 07:30 PM, Tito Latini wrote: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 09:16:12AM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > [...] >> > Ableton have now done that, albeit by circumventing the hardest parts of >> > the problem (a tempo map with varying meter and tempo). > What? > > I repeat: that's not an

Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-22 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Tito Latini wrote: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 09:16:12AM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > [...] > > Ableton have now done that, albeit by circumventing the hardest parts of > > the problem (a tempo map with varying meter and tempo). > > What? > >

Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-22 Thread Tito Latini
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 09:16:12AM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: [...] > Ableton have now done that, albeit by circumventing the hardest parts of > the problem (a tempo map with varying meter and tempo). What? I repeat: that's not an innovation. >From Incudine web page [1]: Features [...] *

Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-22 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 2:34 AM, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > > It seems that the lack of interest in adding similar functionality to JACK > has opened up a gap in the "market". > there was no lack of interest, but rather an inability to come up with an abstraction for

Re: [LAD] aBLETON lINK

2016-09-22 Thread Patrick Shirkey
> On 09/21/2016 11:24 AM, Perry Nguyen wrote: >> >> Though after reading your post to LAD a couple times over it seems like >> there is possibly overlooked but important incongruity between BPM and >> "linear/real-time".. and perhaps that limits the ability of word-clock >> time designators like