Re: [LAD] Is Piperware a successor to Jack/Pulseaudio?

2021-07-07 Thread Yuri
On 6/30/21 3:58 PM, Robin Gareus wrote: Yes, and ALSA as well to some extent. To applications pipewire looks like a running JACK server, or pulseaudio or like an ALSA device. So existing apps do not have to be changed. When the Jack option is enabled in Pipewire it expects Jack >= 1.9.10 to

Re: [LAD] Simple Pipewire test request

2021-07-07 Thread Alexander
> Maybe pipewire is not run by the same user than the cron job. This was my initial idea, however what I think is more likely is that there is no dbus session for the process to connect to. Are you running PW as a user or system-wide? ___

Re: [LAD] Simple Pipewire test request

2021-07-07 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Wed, 7 Jul 2021 19:24:38 +0100, John Murphy a écrit : > On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 19:01:25 +0100 Keith Edmunds wrote: > > /tmp/cronjob.txt says error: pw_context_connect() failed: Host is down Maybe pipewire is not run by the same user than the cron job. Dominique

Re: [LAD] Is Piperware a successor to Jack/Pulseaudio?

2021-07-07 Thread Filipe Coelho
On 07/07/21 22:37, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 09:58:52PM +0100, Filipe Coelho wrote: You keep mentioning up that patch, but it only worked for you, it didn't for anyone else. It was used for years on the WFS system in Parma, until I switched to Jack2 in order to have

Re: [LAD] Is Piperware a successor to Jack/Pulseaudio?

2021-07-07 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 09:58:52PM +0100, Filipe Coelho wrote: > Except your patch was super messy, not formatted correctly and lead to other > issues, as described here: It was indeed a very big one, and fixed several issues: * wrong order of execution of clients, * high order polynomial

Re: [LAD] Is Piperware a successor to Jack/Pulseaudio?

2021-07-07 Thread Wim Taymans
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021, 22:55 Fons Adriaensen, wrote: > On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 10:44:23PM +0200, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > > > With jack2 this takes 0.5s to create the clients, and on average 0.1s to > > connect all of them in a chain (15 * 32 connect calls). > > Correction: after removing some

Re: [LAD] Is Piperware a successor to Jack/Pulseaudio?

2021-07-07 Thread Filipe Coelho
On 07/07/21 21:44, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 01:00:21PM +0200, Wim Taymans wrote: Challenge accepted!... I made a little jack client with 32 input and 32 output ports that memcpy the samples. Then I started 16 of those and linked them all in a long chain. Then I linked

Re: [LAD] Is Piperware a successor to Jack/Pulseaudio?

2021-07-07 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 10:44:23PM +0200, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > With jack2 this takes 0.5s to create the clients, and on average 0.1s to > connect all of them in a chain (15 * 32 connect calls). Correction: after removing some print() statements the total connections time was reduced to 50

Re: [LAD] Is Piperware a successor to Jack/Pulseaudio?

2021-07-07 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 01:00:21PM +0200, Wim Taymans wrote: > Challenge accepted!... I made a little jack client with 32 input and 32 output > ports that memcpy the samples. Then I started 16 of those and linked them > all in a long chain. > > Then I linked the input of the chain to a USB mic

[LAD] [ANN] Vee One Suite 0.9.23 - An Early-Summer'21 Release batch #2

2021-07-07 Thread Rui Nuno Capela
Hello again! The 'Vee One Suite' of 'old-school' software instruments, * synthv1 [1] as a polyphonic subtractive synthesizer; * samplv1 [2] a polyphonic sampler synthesizer; * drumkv1 [3] as yet another drum-kit sampler; * padthv1 [4] as a polyphonic additive synthesizer. Are all being

Re: [LAD] Simple Pipewire test request

2021-07-07 Thread John Murphy
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 19:33:18 +0100 Keith Edmunds wrote: > > /tmp/cronjob.txt says error: pw_context_connect() failed: Host is down > > I can't help you with that, sorry, but hopefully it points the way to > resolving the problem. Hopefully it will mean something to someone if/when I write to

Re: [LAD] Simple Pipewire test request

2021-07-07 Thread Keith Edmunds
> /tmp/cronjob.txt says error: pw_context_connect() failed: Host is down I can't help you with that, sorry, but hopefully it points the way to resolving the problem. -- Great music, chat and even some wit. Join me every Friday evening at 8pm for Keith's Music Box: Follow:

Re: [LAD] Simple Pipewire test request

2021-07-07 Thread John Murphy
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 19:01:25 +0100 Keith Edmunds wrote: > Try: > > /usr/bin/pw-record /home/john/crontest.wav > /tmp/cronjob.txt 2>&1 > > ...and have a look in /tmp/cronjob.txt after it's run /tmp/cronjob.txt says error: pw_context_connect() failed: Host is down I've no idea what that means, or

Re: [LAD] Simple Pipewire test request

2021-07-07 Thread Keith Edmunds
> Thanks, but no change, except the syslog entry: > Jul 7 18:20:01 NUC1 CRON[10931]: (john) CMD (/usr/bin/pw-record > /home/john/crontest.wav) Try: /usr/bin/pw-record /home/john/crontest.wav > /tmp/cronjob.txt 2>&1 ...and have a look in /tmp/cronjob.txt after it's run -- Great music, chat and

Re: [LAD] Is Piperware a successor to Jack/Pulseaudio?

2021-07-07 Thread Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
On 7/7/21 9:59 AM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: On 7/7/21 4:00 AM, Wim Taymans wrote: ... == install patched rtkit in which priorities and cpu usage limits have been changed to more audio dsp friendly values < NOTE: max realtime priorities in rtkit are hardwired (in the source code!!) and

Re: [LAD] Simple Pipewire test request

2021-07-07 Thread John Murphy
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 16:50:48 +0100 Keith Edmunds wrote: > The first thing I'd suggest is to put the full pathname of both the > command and the wav file. Under cron, the PATH variable may not be what > you have interactively: > > /usr/bin/pw-record /home/me/crontest.wav (edit as required)

Re: [LAD] Is Piperware a successor to Jack/Pulseaudio?

2021-07-07 Thread Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
On 7/7/21 4:00 AM, Wim Taymans wrote: On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 at 21:41, Fons Adriaensen wrote: I'll give PW its chance when the developers tell me it's ready for real life. Which will mean a session with around 15 jack clients with a total of 800 or so ports. Should run without hickups while

Re: [LAD] Simple Pipewire test request

2021-07-07 Thread Keith Edmunds
The first thing I'd suggest is to put the full pathname of both the command and the wav file. Under cron, the PATH variable may not be what you have interactively: /usr/bin/pw-record /home/me/crontest.wav (edit as required) > Could someone please do a simple test on any Pipewire

[LAD] Simple Pipewire test request

2021-07-07 Thread John Murphy
Could someone please do a simple test on any Pipewire installation set up to use/replace Jack (or shed any light on this). If I run 'pw-record crontest.wav' it works fine, as expected. If I run 'pw-cat 2> er.txt' ditto, of course. If I setup a user cronjob with 'crontab -e' to run the

Re: [LAD] Is Piperware a successor to Jack/Pulseaudio?

2021-07-07 Thread Wim Taymans
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 14:05, Filipe Coelho wrote: > > On 07/07/21 12:37, Robin Gareus wrote: > > On 7/7/21 1:00 PM, Wim Taymans wrote: > >> This utterly fails with jackd on this system, it doesn't even want > >> to start all the clients, I'm sure it's something with the config > >> somewhere...

Re: [LAD] Is Piperware a successor to Jack/Pulseaudio?

2021-07-07 Thread Filipe Coelho
On 07/07/21 12:37, Robin Gareus wrote: On 7/7/21 1:00 PM, Wim Taymans wrote: This utterly fails with jackd on this system, it doesn't even want to start all the clients, I'm sure it's something with the config somewhere... jack has a port-limit (IIRC 256 by default). It is not dynamic and

Re: [LAD] Is Piperware a successor to Jack/Pulseaudio?

2021-07-07 Thread Robin Gareus
On 7/7/21 1:00 PM, Wim Taymans wrote: > This utterly fails with jackd on this system, it doesn't even want > to start all the clients, I'm sure it's something with the config somewhere... jack has a port-limit (IIRC 256 by default). It is not dynamic and unbound for performance reasons. try:

Re: [LAD] Is Piperware a successor to Jack/Pulseaudio?

2021-07-07 Thread Wim Taymans
On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 at 21:41, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > > > I'll give PW its chance when the developers tell me it's ready for > real life. Which will mean a session with around 15 jack clients > with a total of 800 or so ports. Should run without hickups while > watching a youtube movie and

Re: [LAD] Whining

2021-07-07 Thread Filipe Coelho
On 07/07/21 09:54, Louigi Verona wrote: Not a single complaint about systemd in this thread. In fact, I think systemd is the good guy here. systemd is awesome and I can't imagine moving forwards without it! (there broke the link again, talking back about systemd hehe) But seriously, the way

Re: [LAD] Whining

2021-07-07 Thread Louigi Verona
Hey Keith, Loved your message. First, I can relate. We've all been there: bad morning, not enough coffee, and then bham! Someone is wrong on the Internet. My life's story. Second, the fact that you wrote an email asking why everyone is complaining about systemd means that your first email to the

Re: [LAD] Whining

2021-07-07 Thread Bengt Gördén
On 2021-07-07 09:51, Keith Edmunds wrote: Most of the mails I've seen so far are people whining about systemd. Well. YMMV but if there is a discussion about the problem of systemd and audio it's probably not whining. Is that normal for this list, No or have I just joined at the wrong

[LAD] Whining

2021-07-07 Thread Keith Edmunds
Hi, I'm new to the list. Most of the mails I've seen so far are people whining about systemd. Is that normal for this list, or have I just joined at the wrong time? I really don't need to read about systemd on this list. Thank you, Keith -- Great music, chat and even some wit. Join me every

Re: [LAD] Is Piperware a successor to Jack/Pulseaudio?

2021-07-07 Thread Will Godfrey
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 09:31:10 +0200 Fons Adriaensen wrote: >On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 03:54:22PM -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > >> Yes, yes, agreed. And most of the time you cannot remove stuff, and that is >> by design. > >That has been my impression as well. > >> I long for simple text

Re: [LAD] Is Piperware a successor to Jack/Pulseaudio?

2021-07-07 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 03:54:22PM -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > Yes, yes, agreed. And most of the time you cannot remove stuff, and that is > by design. That has been my impression as well. > I long for simple text configuration files, you change it, restart whatever > it is if it is