Hi!
All you lips-guys: I don't mean to be rude, but: Mario says, that all who
don't like lisp, are those, who don't know (or don't understand) it. And in
the case of extending ardour, that's just the point. I know a lot of people,
who have a lot of dificulties to use scheme-languages, yet
Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tim Goetze:
breathe deeply. think of snakes. say python.
Are you serious? Do you know python? I hope not...
I don`t want to start a flame-war over programming languages,
but I know both scheme and python very well, and would
never consider
[Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen]
breathe deeply. think of snakes. say python.
Are you serious? Do you know python? I hope not...
I don`t want to start a flame-war over programming languages,
but I know both scheme and python very well, and would
never consider python as an extension language
On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 13:04 +0200, Tim Goetze wrote:
[Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen]
breathe deeply. think of snakes. say python.
Are you serious? Do you know python? I hope not...
I don`t want to start a flame-war over programming languages,
but I know both scheme and python very well,
Tim Goetze:
breathe deeply. think of snakes. say python.
Are you serious? Do you know python? I hope not...
I don`t want to start a flame-war over programming languages,
but I know both scheme and python very well, and would
never consider python as an extension language again.
Would you care
[Simon Jenkins]
On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 13:04 +0200, Tim Goetze wrote:
I know of no language that fits this bill better than python.
Lua perhaps?
http://www.lua.org/
There's a somewhat Lua-oriented comparison here:
http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaVersusPython
That's a very interesting read,
Paul Davis
On Tue, 2005-09-20 at 08:29 +0300, Aaron wrote:
please save me from another lisp/scheme scriptable application
The scripting should be in a language easy enough for a non programer to
use.
Is xsl a possibility or is there a scripting language that is easier
than lisp/scheme?
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 11:33:23PM +0200, Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen wrote:
Paul Davis
On Tue, 2005-09-20 at 08:29 +0300, Aaron wrote:
please save me from another lisp/scheme scriptable application
The scripting should be in a language easy enough for a non programer to
use.
Is
On Tue, 2005-09-20 at 08:29 +0300, Aaron wrote:
please save me from another lisp/scheme scriptable application
The scripting should be in a language easy enough for a non programer to
use.
Is xsl a possibility or is there a scripting language that is easier
than lisp/scheme?
breathe
Magnus Hjorth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:13:15 +0200
Alfons Adriaensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When thinking MVC, you do just the opposite: when you touch something
on the GUI, all it does is send a event ('user has clicked on button
#123') to the 'model' part. This
Alberto Botti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Il giorno gio, 15/09/2005 alle 22.26 +0200, Magnus Hjorth ha scritto:
About the original question, maybe it would be a good idea to integrate with
or at least support the ATK library that's part of GTK/GNOME?
Well, someone did a port of GTK+ 2 to
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 10:46:26AM +0200, Mario Lang wrote:
I've feared this effect of half-hearted accessibility support
for graphical desktops under Linux, and it seems my fears have come
true: Just because there *is* an attempt to make GUIs accessible
doesnt necessarily mean that all
Alfons Adriaensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 10:46:26AM +0200, Mario Lang wrote:
I've feared this effect of half-hearted accessibility support
for graphical desktops under Linux, and it seems my fears have come
true: Just because there *is* an attempt to make GUIs
Julien Claassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi!
Yes there is ncurses. But with ncurses as is you can just position
characters on the screen, whereever you like and in which color you like. Yet
I want to design a library, that is useful for blind and possibly other
disabled people. This
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 04:39:34PM +0200, Mario Lang wrote:
Alfons Adriaensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 10:46:26AM +0200, Mario Lang wrote:
Whenever someone on LAD/LAU comes up with a scriptability question, I
sincerely hope this is the day the LAD coder community
Mario Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
blind users
OT:
I find that applications for blind people suits me
perfectly. Everything has a clear way of doing things; issuing a
simple and clear command.
Being able to issue commands yields more benefits; f.ex speech
recognition; it's very easy to bind
When you build in a scheme interpreter into an application, f.ex at
the bottom of ardour, you're not only doing it for the blind people,
you're also empowering the user.
ardour actually did have a scheme interpreter at the bottom at the
beginning of its life (Guile; a hangover from the design
Paul Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
ardour actually did have a scheme interpreter at the bottom at the
beginning of its life
Awesome.
i never considered lisp to be an appropriate language for user
scripting
Looks great in snd and emacs for a scriptable extensible
environment;). It should
please save me from another lisp/scheme scriptable application
The scripting should be in a language easy enough for a non programer to
use.
Is xsl a possibility or is there a scripting language that is easier
than lisp/scheme?
Aaron
On Tue, 2005-09-20 at 04:29 +0200, Esben Stien wrote:
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 10:26:43PM +0200, Magnus Hjorth wrote:
The model shouldn't know about which buttons etc exist in the
GUI and how to display things, so the event should be more like
('user wants to perform action #123') and the response should
be more like ('the model state changed to
On Friday 16 September 2005 05:55, Alfons Adriaensen wrote:
Yes, this is a better formulation, and in fact what I wanted to
say. But in any case the mapping between actions / states and
GUI elements should be relatively simple.
Something that might be worth examining here is the source for
Il giorno gio, 15/09/2005 alle 22.26 +0200, Magnus Hjorth ha scritto:
About the original question, maybe it would be a good idea to integrate with
or at least support the ATK library that's part of GTK/GNOME?
Well, someone did a port of GTK+ 2 to ncurses some time ago... it's
called Cursed GTK
Hi all!
I'm trying to design a library, which should provide graphical objects for
the console. Meaning standardised buttons, checkboxes, sliders, etc. The
purpose of this project is: to bring gui-based audio-software to the console.
What I'm wondering now is the following:
It would still
2005/9/15, Julien Claassen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi all!
I'm trying to design a library, which should provide graphical objects for
the console. Meaning standardised buttons, checkboxes, sliders, etc. The
purpose of this project is: to bring gui-based audio-software to the console.
Well, I
Hi!
Yes there is ncurses. But with ncurses as is you can just position
characters on the screen, whereever you like and in which color you like. Yet
I want to design a library, that is useful for blind and possibly other
disabled people. This will incorporate predefined keys for movement,
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 02:54:50PM +0200, Richard Spindler wrote:
I actually use some some text based applications quite often, and I
really like that the provide some kind of command language so I only
type in what I wan't to do and here we go. This however is a totally
different approach
Alfons Adriaensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When your app is structured this way, it's relatively easy to add
a text based interface, maybe using some OSC-like syntax.
Exactly;).
The only sane approach is to write it in the MVC style from the
start
All apps should really use this style.
Hi Julien,
Protocol wise, it would be interesting to just use the X protocol.
i.e. create an X server that writes to the console. This would work
for any gui application, and you could ignore uninteresting graphics
stuff.
Not sure how to deal with the mouse in such an environment.
ncurses would
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 04:28:52PM +0100, Martin Habets wrote:
Protocol wise, it would be interesting to just use the X protocol.
i.e. create an X server that writes to the console. This would work
for any gui application, and you could ignore uninteresting graphics
stuff.
Not sure how to
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 07:12:14PM +0200, Esben Stien wrote:
All apps should really use this style. I'm much more comfortable
giving direct commands to programs, even when 3d modelling, editing
sound files or pictures, whatever I can think of, really.
Couldn't agree more. One good example is
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:13:15 +0200
Alfons Adriaensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When thinking MVC, you do just the opposite: when you touch something
on the GUI, all it does is send a event ('user has clicked on button
#123') to the 'model' part. This does the thinking, takes actions, and
may
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