Re: Openmoko Group sale

2008-06-03 Thread Arie Skliarouk
Hi, What's wrong with RTL support in GTK? OpenMoko will be shipped with Qt http://gettingstartedopenmoko.wordpress.com/2008/05/19/openmoko-software-update/ I applaud OpenMoko decision to do whatever can be done to speed up production and increase number of units to be sold for non-developers.

Re: Openmoko Group sale

2008-06-03 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 08:50:56AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: Da et oyevja. What is the _advantage_ of ETK? Besides the fact that it i the pet project of an openmoko dev, what real advantages does ETK have? That may be enough. The whole point ofthe company is to SELL their product. If, in

Re: Openmoko Group sale

2008-06-03 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/6/3 Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What's wrong with RTL support in GTK? Nothing. Read this thread again. It's ETK that has no BiDi support. Da et oyevja. What is the _advantage_ of ETK? I don't know. Like I said, the decision process was opaque,

Re: Looking for a recommendation for a book about Embedded LINUX

2008-06-03 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Hi, Dan Shimshoni wrote: Hello, I am looking for a recommendation for a book about Embedded LINUX for beginners and intermediate level. Something you should note is that there are actually two super-topics that can be covered by such books: 1. Building embedded Linux systems

Re: QoS question

2008-06-03 Thread sara fink
So, if they do it on the docsis channels, what exactly they do? And, how this influences the end user? On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 1:19 AM, Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting sara fink, from the post of Mon, 02 Jun: Someone knows what type of QoS hot uses? AFAIK they are not doing

Re: Openmoko Group sale

2008-06-03 Thread Shachar Shemesh
michael shiloh wrote: On Tue, 3 Jun 2008, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Ira Abramov wrote: haven't seen the discussion, but I'd imagine the most sensible reply from OpenMoko would be we provide a hardware platform and a basic UI with 3(!) different toolkits. Don't make us pick sides, do your own

Re: Openmoko Group sale

2008-06-03 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/6/3 Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What's wrong with RTL support in GTK? Nothing. Read this thread again. It's ETK that has no BiDi support. Da et oyevja. What is the _advantage_ of ETK? Besides the fact that it i the pet project of an openmoko dev, what real advantages does ETK

Re: Looking for a recommendation for a book about Embedded LINUX

2008-06-03 Thread Dan Shimshoni
Hi, The second edition of this book will be available mid August and you can already pre-order it now: Done ! As one of the co-authors of the seconds edition I can only say I hope it is as good as I think it is :-) When I said a few words about his personal experience I meant of course

Re: Debian still generated bad ssh keys

2008-06-03 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
One other small thing: If ever something breaks, 'apt-get install -f' usually has the minimal brains to recover. 'aptitude install -f' seems to be too smart for its own good in such cases (asking to remove some packages and such). I also prefer the default of 'apt-cache search' to that of

Re: Anti-RTL mindset is similar to anti-accessibility mindset

2008-06-03 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/6/3 Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You are confusing two completely different things. It is one thing to claim adding accessibility support to the product will increase its cost, and not increase its market share enough, to make the product non-commercially viable. This claim,

Re: Openmoko Group sale

2008-06-03 Thread michael shiloh
On Tue, 3 Jun 2008, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: I also asked Michael, and never received an answer, if the unit will support some sort of DRM, even if only a unique serial number. While in general I am not a fan of DRM, there are some applications where it has merit [1] and there is a

OT: Netscape 4.61i

2008-06-03 Thread Tomer Cohen
Hi, Long time ago, there was a Netscape browser with the version tag 4.61i. It used to be the first version with the core of Netscape Navigator to feature bidi support without funky fonts (Globes font was quite popular back than) thanks to IBM contribution and some talent people in Israel [1].

[OT] The story of Mel

2008-06-03 Thread Amos Shapira
I just tracked down the Real Programmers vs. Quiche Eaters text to show to our developers when I found a link to the following: http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/mel.html I think it's a nice little story Enjoy, --Amos = To

Re: Kubuntu Edgy (6.10) missing from archive?!

2008-06-03 Thread Lior Kaplan
Gabor Szabo wrote: I have a machine with Kubuntu Edgy on it and I was trying to install some package but I am getting 404 errors. Looking at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ it seems that all the Edgy files are gone. I know they have stopped supporting it but I don't care about