Financing for Wine BiDi (was: Re: MSO in Wine: Hebrew backwards.)

2008-09-04 Thread Omer Zak
Shachar, On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 08:06 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: IMHO this is the kind of thing that the Chief Scientist's Office would fund. Hmm. [...snipped...] We all know that 10K is hardly enough to achieve much on Wine, and we all also know that

Re: Financing for Wine BiDi

2008-09-04 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Omer Zak wrote: How about publicizing in Linux-IL the budget needed to fix Wine BiDi in terms of money, equipment and human resources? These are rough estimates. Wine needs the following fields worked on: 1. Move the BiDI code into Uniscribe, where it is on Windows 2. Handle keyboard input

Re: Financing for Wine BiDi

2008-09-04 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 11:56:49AM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Lingnu is willing to chip in on such work, so the base for calculating costs is 15Knis/month. Anyone contacting me for work on unrelated projects should not expect those prices! 15K + employment overhead translates to

Re: Financing for Wine BiDi

2008-09-04 Thread Omer Zak
So the budget is 1.25 months of work for fields 1,2, unknown for fields 3,4,5. Given the numbers, fields 1,2 would cost about 19K NIS. Assuming that 3,4,5 need 2.75 months of work, the total budget is 60K NIS (not including Lingnu's own contribution in terms of reduced prices). I assume that it

Re: Financing for Wine BiDi

2008-09-04 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Omer Zak wrote: Are there Israeli companies, which deploy Linux solutions, and for which it is worthwhile to avoid dual-booting or virtual machines yet support clients, who still have legacy MS-Windows applications? Yes and no. No, no such company will pick up the price tag on its own. Yes,

Re: Financing for Wine BiDi

2008-09-04 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/9/4 Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Omer Zak wrote: Are there Israeli companies, which deploy Linux solutions, and for which it is worthwhile to avoid dual-booting or virtual machines yet support clients, who still have legacy MS-Windows applications? Yes and no. No, no such

Re: Financing for Wine BiDi

2008-09-04 Thread Omer Zak
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 14:28 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/9/4 Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Omer Zak wrote: Are there Israeli companies, which deploy Linux solutions, and for which it is worthwhile to avoid dual-booting or virtual machines yet support clients, who still have

Re: Financing for Wine BiDi

2008-09-04 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/9/4 Omer Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: See one of my previous E-mail messages. We are looking at 60K NIS. If we can round up a group of companies with total of 600 potential Wine users, then this should be doable - with 100NIS/head, the companies would save costs of dual-booting, VM

Re: Financing for Wine BiDi

2008-09-04 Thread Omer Zak
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 15:14 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/9/4 Omer Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: See one of my previous E-mail messages. We are looking at 60K NIS. If we can round up a group of companies with total of 600 potential Wine users, then this should be doable - with 100NIS/head, the

Re: Financing for Wine BiDi

2008-09-04 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Omer Zak wrote: Shachar (Lingnu CEO): can you open a PayPal account (or equivalent) to collect money from private people? Or do you have another mechanism to deal with, say, 300 small payments? PayPal is fine. The main problem is what happens if too few people say I will? How do you deal

Re: ( Marked As Spam ) Re: Financing for Wine BiDi

2008-09-04 Thread Omer Zak
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 16:26 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Omer Zak wrote: Shachar (Lingnu CEO): can you open a PayPal account (or equivalent) to collect money from private people? Or do you have another mechanism to deal with, say, 300 small payments? PayPal is fine. The main

Re: Financing for Wine BiDi

2008-09-04 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/9/4 Omer Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Only if you are willing to fork over 400NIS. I do not see families of private people donating more than 100NIS per family, regardless of number of users. That's exactly what I meant. I'm not rich, but in any case the wine project is saving me money.