Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-18 Thread Tzahi Fadida
On Sunday 18 February 2007 01:57, Uri Even-Chen wrote: On 2/17/07, Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it a requirement that it be Access, or should it be a database server? It has to be Access - it's not only a database, but a whole program written in Access, with at least 50

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-18 Thread Uri Even-Chen
On 2/18/07, Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without SQL server you don't get record locking, etc. If you try to use Access to update a database on a SAMBA share, you will end up with corrupt data. Are you sure? I heard different opinions here. Will the Access database data get

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-18 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 10:49:10AM +0200, Uri Even-Chen wrote: Are you sure? I heard different opinions here. Will the Access database data get corrupted if the server is not Windows? Can Samba handle record table locking in Access? Or can it not? Unfortunately all I can find by STFW'ing

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-18 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Hi Peter, On 2/18/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically, it is you who impressed the TCO of the current system on your father's firm. OK, I admit it's partly my fault. But it was not only my decision. It was about 10 years ago, my father consulted an expert and he recommended using

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-18 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 11:54:37AM +0200, Uri Even-Chen wrote: By the way, 10 years ago there was no PHP, no MySQL as far as I know, and no alternatives to Access. There was something called Magic, this might have been the only alternative. Even today, I don't know any application which has

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-18 Thread Peter
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, Uri Even-Chen wrote: Hi Peter, On 2/18/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically, it is you who impressed the TCO of the current system on your father's firm. OK, I admit it's partly my fault. But it was not only my decision. It was about 10 years ago, my father

Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-17 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Dear Linux people, First, I want to apologize if any of you were offended or harassed by the messages I sent to this list about 3 months ago. I didn't mean to offend anybody. I want to ask you something about Linux servers. My father thinks about installing a new server in his company, which

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-17 Thread Marc A. Volovic
Quoth Uri Even-Chen: the messages I sent to this list about 3 months ago. I didn't mean to offend anybody. That's ok, old chap. Better to offend and ask forgiveness than to not offend and ask permission... [snip] My father asked an expert from a company we work with, and the expert

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-17 Thread Tzahi Fadida
On Saturday 17 February 2007 10:20, Uri Even-Chen wrote: Dear Linux people, First, I want to apologize if any of you were offended or harassed by the messages I sent to this list about 3 months ago. I didn't mean to offend anybody. I want to ask you something about Linux servers. My

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-17 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Uri Even-Chen wrote: Dear Linux people, First, I want to apologize if any of you were offended or harassed by the messages I sent to this list about 3 months ago. No problem. and a server for Microsoft Access. The Access program will be executed by a few users simultaneously. Is it a

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-17 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 11:45:38AM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Uri Even-Chen wrote: Dear Linux people, First, I want to apologize if any of you were offended or harassed by the messages I sent to this list about 3 months ago. No problem. Me too :-) and a server for Microsoft

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-17 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 11:09:26PM +0200, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: I am not sure I understood the OP question, and neither am I sure others did. If you intend to use the server, as others guessed, only as a file server for Access, then samba will probably be just as good. If they intend to

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-17 Thread Tzahi Fadida
On Sunday 18 February 2007 00:00, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 11:09:26PM +0200, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: I am not sure I understood the OP question, and neither am I sure others did. If you intend to use the server, as others guessed, only as a file server for

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-17 Thread Uri Even-Chen
On 2/17/07, Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it a requirement that it be Access, or should it be a database server? It has to be Access - it's not only a database, but a whole program written in Access, with at least 50 forms, at least 100 queries and lots of VB code. I wrote it

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-17 Thread Arieh Skliarouk
Hello Uri, But if we do decide to convert, we will convert only the tables (there are at least 50 of them) and not the entire program. I see only-tables conversion as good first step. There is howto on access-mysql conversion: http://www.kitebird.com/articles/access-migrate.html How many

Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers

2007-02-17 Thread Uri Even-Chen
On 2/18/07, Arieh Skliarouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many companies do you know, which are not computer companies, who use Linux? Many. Mostly on servers. Just as your father's company can. I was refering to end users computers and not to servers. I wrote you another message (different