Fwd: [Israel.pm] December's Perl Mongers meeting

2006-11-29 Thread Shlomi Fish
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [Israel.pm] December's Perl Mongers meeting -- correction Date: Tuesday 28 November 2006 18:19 From: Yona Shlomo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: perl@perl.org.il Hello, PLEASE NOTE DATE CORRECTION! December's Perl Mongers meeting will take place on

1st fallout of Novell/M$ embrace: M$ Exchange replacement Hula dropped

2006-11-29 Thread Peter
As expected, unholy alliances beget monsters. Here is the 1st born. Maybe 'dropped' is not the right term for 'Hula'. It was, er, debased (like having the carpet pulled out from underneath it) ? http://forge.novell.com/pipermail/hula-general/2006-November/002084.html As expected, a

Xen paravirtualized domU doesn't start

2006-11-29 Thread Oded Arbel
--=-3LD+5Pxn+/qCKd/a9nM3 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi list - a Xen question for the Xen masters out there, if you please. I have a Fedora Core 6 with Xen 3.0.3 installed which is running a Cent OS 4.4 on a fully virtualized domU (all this on an EM64T dual-cpu).

Re: 1st fallout of Novell/M$ embrace: M$ Exchange replacement Hula dropped

2006-11-29 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On 11/29/06, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe 'dropped' is not the right term for 'Hula'. It was, er, debased (like having the carpet pulled out from underneath it) ? It's not like Hula was moving anywhere, unless by moving you mean something like Mozilla's moving when it took 5 years to

Re: 1st fallout of Novell/M$ embrace: M$ Exchange replacement Hula dropped

2006-11-29 Thread Shachar Shemesh
I'm glad Ilya answered first, or I would have thought that maybe I'm stuck in an opinion without letting reality check in. Peter wrote: As expected, Novell, at the moment, are a fish in a barrel. Once you decided that the MSNovell deal is unholy, anything they do is, in your eyes, an evil

Re: 1st fallout of Novell/M$ embrace: M$ Exchange replacement Hula dropped

2006-11-29 Thread Julian Daich
El mié, 29-11-2006 a las 15:15 +0200, Shachar Shemesh escribió: A few years ago a new Linux distribution came along. It was called Lindows, and it promised to use Wine in order to run your existing Windows applications on it. A couple of years later the company decided that Wine was not

Re: 1st fallout of Novell/M$ embrace: M$ Exchange replacement Hula dropped

2006-11-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, Just small remark.. A few years ago a new Linux distribution came along. It was called Lindows, and it promised to use Wine in order to run your existing Windows applications on it. A couple of years later the company decided that Wine was not getting there, and stopped sponsoring any more

Re: 1st fallout of Novell/M$ embrace: M$ Exchange replacement Hula dropped

2006-11-29 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Julian Daich wrote: El mié, 29-11-2006 a las 15:15 +0200, Shachar Shemesh escribió: A few years ago a new Linux distribution came along. It was called Lindows, and it promised to use Wine in order to run your existing Windows applications on it. A couple of years later the company

Re: 1st fallout of Novell/M$ embrace: M$ Exchange replacement Hula dropped

2006-11-29 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, Just small remark.. A few years ago a new Linux distribution came along. It was called Lindows, and it promised to use Wine in order to run your existing Windows applications on it. A couple of years later the company decided that Wine was not getting there, and

sendmail-8.12 and bogofilter

2006-11-29 Thread Moshe Gorohovsky
Hello, I am trying to integrate bogofilter-1.1.1 with sendmail-8.12. I want to filter all messages by running bogofilter as an unprivileged user. What can I do in this situation ? Upgrading sendmail is not an option, I can not use bogom-1.9 sendmail milter. bogofilter-milter.pl uses

Re: 1st fallout of Novell/M$ embrace: M$ Exchange replacement Hula dropped

2006-11-29 Thread Peter
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Julian Daich wrote: In conclusion, I think that this email is a bit paranoid. Peter Shachar P.s. Since some of the list's administrators have seemed to jump those guns in the past, threatening actions, I would like to clarify that though I think that Peter's email is

To: Ira / Warning: could not send message for past 10 hours (fwd)

2006-11-29 Thread Peter
.. while talking to kelly.abramov.org.: RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 451 ;z; Dynamic IP pool blocked due to zombie infestation. See http://rbl.eonspace.net/?rblip=192.114.44.226/21 for details [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Deferred: 451 ;z; Dynamic IP pool blocked due to zombie infestation. See

Re: To: Ira / Warning: could not send message for past 10 hours (fwd)

2006-11-29 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Peter, from the post of Wed, 29 Nov: .. while talking to kelly.abramov.org.: RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 451 ;z; Dynamic IP pool blocked due to zombie infestation. See http://rbl.eonspace.net/?rblip=192.114.44.226/21 for details [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Deferred: 451 ;z; Dynamic IP

Re: 1st fallout of Novell/M$ embrace: M$ Exchange replacement Hula dropped

2006-11-29 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On 11/29/06, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: b) vague concerns with regards to any patented/0wned technology used in Hula (i.e. essentially proprietary m$ messaging protocols used to communicate with real Exchange) Just to put the record straight, Hula doesn't aim for any special Exchange

Re: 1st fallout of Novell/M$ embrace: M$ Exchange replacement Hula dropped

2006-11-29 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Peter wrote: I do not consider myself paranoid, I guess that makes the two of us. I would like to add that in view of what m$'s history of 'cooperation' with other entities looks like, I consider that people who are not paranoid about what happens in such instances overdose their

Re: To: Ira / Warning: could not send message for past 10 hours (fwd)

2006-11-29 Thread Peter
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Peter, from the post of Wed, 29 Nov: .. while talking to kelly.abramov.org.: RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 451 ;z; Dynamic IP pool blocked due to zombie infestation. See http://rbl.eonspace.net/?rblip=192.114.44.226/21 for details [EMAIL

Re: 1st fallout of Novell/M$ embrace: M$ Exchange replacement Hula dropped

2006-11-29 Thread Peter
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: Just to put the record straight, Hula doesn't aim for any special Exchange interop. Essentially, it's an attempt by Novell to resurrect a dead product called NetMail, which they happily sold without any patent concerns (till it got old and

interesting take on copyright law and patents

2006-11-29 Thread Peter
Why the Sonny Bono copyright prolongation is bad yet good (my opinion: no laws should be changed retroactively, but for an author who lives long enough that 70 years is not enough protection of his work for his lifetime, a special exception should be granted):

Re: 1st fallout of Novell/M$ embrace: M$ Exchange replacement Hula dropped

2006-11-29 Thread Julian Daich
El mié, 29-11-2006 a las 16:40 +0200, Shachar Shemesh escribió: Julian Daich wrote: El mié, 29-11-2006 a las 15:15 +0200, Shachar Shemesh escribió: A few years ago a new Linux distribution came along. It was called Lindows, and it promised to use Wine in order to run your existing

Re: 1st fallout of Novell/M$ embrace: M$ Exchange replacement Hula dropped

2006-11-29 Thread Peter
With¨ paid¨ do you mean that MS lost the case? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_v._Lindows Peter = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo

Re: 1st fallout of Novell/M$ embrace: M$ Exchange replacement Hula dropped

2006-11-29 Thread Julian Daich
El mié, 29-11-2006 a las 16:40 +0200, Shachar Shemesh escribió: but¨ Lindows¨ became¨ Linspire¨ and they were granted by Microsoft with the rights to use or distribute codecs as the win32 package and other proprietary software within their distribution. Which, you have agree, is a

Re: 1st fallout of Novell/M$ embrace: M$ Exchange replacement Hula dropped

2006-11-29 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Julian Daich wrote: The suing party (MS) paid the defendants (Lindows) to change their name, understanding that if the trial does go forward MS will lose their trademark. With¨ paid¨ do you mean that MS lost the case? Nobody lost it. It was settled out of court. Which, you have