Re: [mailop] Spamfolder mini rant (Was: Contact Google Postmaster)

2024-01-29 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 28 Jan 2024, at 20:23, Thomas Walter via mailop wrote: > > > > On 28.01.24 20:02, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: >> There are "edge cases" when the mail couldn't be reliably classified as spam >> or non-spam. Even with best tuned spam filtering systems false positives >> will happen. >

Re: [mailop] Extortion spam from OVH-hosted *.sbs domains

2024-01-29 Thread Alexandre Dangreau via mailop
Hello, We have some rules to prevent SPAM, but we don't have any software access to the customer's server. Each customer is responsible of his use regarding the law and our term and condition. After receiving an abuse report, we let enough time for the customer to solve the issue, and if

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Spamfolder mini rant (Was: Contact Google Postmaster)

2024-01-29 Thread Todd Herr via mailop
On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 10:51 AM Scott Mutter via mailop wrote: > > It would also give feedback to spammers allowing them to fine-tune their > > messages to avoid getting flagged. > > What about feedback loops? Don't those also fall into the category of > aiding the spammer? But they are also

[mailop] Italian provider TIM.it (alie.it) contact postmaster

2024-01-29 Thread Bram Van Daele (Teneo BV) via mailop
Hello mailop Anybody on the feed that has contact info for Italian MBP tim.it , alice.it ? We have serious blocking issues on our transactional emails to this provider but we don't seem to be finding any luck in contacting them. Bram Van Daele Founder & Owner Management | Teneo BV

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Spamfolder mini rant (Was: Contact Google Postmaster)

2024-01-29 Thread Scott Mutter via mailop
On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 10:01 AM Todd Herr via mailop wrote: > Users can only click "This is spam" on messages that end up in their > inbox. If all of your traffic went to the spam folder, perhaps because it > was unfortunately remarkably similar to previous traffic that was deemed > spam, you

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Spamfolder mini rant (Was: Contact Google Postmaster)

2024-01-29 Thread Brotman, Alex via mailop
And if you’re worried about spammers fine-tuning based on this response, keep in mind that they likely already have a fair number of test accounts at various mailbox providers. -- Alex Brotman Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse & Messaging Policy Comcast From: Brotman, Alex Sent: Monday, January 29,

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Spamfolder mini rant (Was: Contact Google Postmaster)

2024-01-29 Thread Brotman, Alex via mailop
I did create this a while ago. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brotman-srds/ This would allow the MTA doing the sending to see that it will go to the spam folder. I’ve created initial code to support this, but haven’t yet deployed it. -- Alex Brotman Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse &

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Spamfolder mini rant (Was: Contact Google Postmaster)

2024-01-29 Thread Scott Mutter via mailop
> It would also give feedback to spammers allowing them to fine-tune their > messages to avoid getting flagged. What about feedback loops? Don't those also fall into the category of aiding the spammer? But they are also a tool for legitimate mail server administrators to combat spam on their

Re: [mailop] ebay postmaster contact

2024-01-29 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
And of course, this 'could' be caused by backscatter on their servers, if the emails originated from your server ;) Ensure your domains have SPF records of course, but we need more information on the list to determine if this is forgeries, or an eBay inherent problem. Suggest you send more

Re: [mailop] ebay postmaster contact

2024-01-29 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
> Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop schrieb: > > Marco Moock via mailop wrote: > > > > > Is there any way to contact them so they can figure out > > > the source of those mails? > > > > Have you inspected the SMTP headers and grepped mail > > server logs? > > Of course. > It comes from

Re: [mailop] [EXTERNAL] Re: Spamfolder mini rant (Was: Contact Google Postmaster)

2024-01-29 Thread Todd Herr via mailop
On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 12:24 PM Scott Mutter via mailop wrote: > On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 10:01 AM Todd Herr via mailop > wrote: > >> Users can only click "This is spam" on messages that end up in their >> inbox. If all of your traffic went to the spam folder, perhaps because it >> was

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Spamfolder mini rant (Was: Contact Google Postmaster)

2024-01-29 Thread Marcel Becker via mailop
On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 5:25 PM Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > Interestingly, Google's GMail allows access to external eMail > accounts via POP3. There's no IMAP4 support there. > They support IMAP as well. -- Marcel

Re: [mailop] Spamfolder mini rant (Was: Contact Google Postmaster)

2024-01-29 Thread Randolf Richardson, Postmaster via mailop
> > On 28 Jan 2024, at 20:23, Thomas Walter via mailop > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 28.01.24 20:02, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: > >> There are "edge cases" when the mail couldn't be reliably classified as > >> spam > >> or non-spam. Even with best tuned spam filtering systems false

[mailop] Yahoo! Timeouts Throughout The Day

2024-01-29 Thread Michael E. Weisel via mailop
Hi fellow Mailopers, I hope you are all having a nice day. I was checking in to see if others were seeing timeouts connecting to Yahoo/AOL throughout the day today. I noticed it starting earlier this morning around 9:30am Eastern and has been intermittent throughout the day. I checked

Re: [mailop] Extortion spam from OVH-hosted *.sbs domains

2024-01-29 Thread Alexandre Dangreau via mailop
Hello, We received alert from spamcop for thoses IP. It’s a new account created after the termination of the previous one who send *.sbs mail. Account closed. If you send report to mailto:ab...@ovh.net (or ab...@ovh.ca) , don’t hesitate to send to me the abuseID (abuse#ABCDEFG) or the mail

Re: [mailop] Extortion spam from OVH-hosted *.sbs domains

2024-01-29 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen via mailop
This particular campaign did not rise above the normal background noise here, but the previous campaigns that I have seen really do not differ much from the quite ordinary, boring and perhaps even slightly incompetently run spamming campaigns. Apart from the content that seems to raise some

Re: [mailop] Spamfolder mini rant (Was: Contact Google Postmaster)

2024-01-29 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 28.01.2024 o godz. 23:44:29 Scott Mutter via mailop pisze: > What if the receiving mail server tagged the message in some way in their > final acknowledgement of the message. For Google. instead of: > > 250 2.0.0 OK 1706409809 > h4-20020ac8584400b10427e71c979dsi9837397zyh.449 - gsmtp >

Re: [mailop] Spamfolder mini rant (Was: Contact Google Postmaster)

2024-01-29 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 28.01.2024 o godz. 22:04:26 Jay Hennigan via mailop pisze: > Conversely, when the receiver purges everything else in the spam > folder without opening it, this gives feedback that the decision to > route it to spam was correct. And this is often the problem, because - as I mentioned - users