Re: [MBZ] Project to tickle your brains with..

2006-11-12 Thread Jim Cathey
I tried the oft-suggested trick of wedging something between the module and the cover, and it was always just a temporary fix. Yeah, you need to clean the contact pins, _and_ clean and close down the sockets too, which requires disassembling the piece that bolts to the fender. Contact cleaner

Re: [MBZ] photographer of the week

2006-11-12 Thread Jim Cathey
And I thought the Frankenheap (same car, in gray) was rusty! -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Speaking of Coolant Flushes

2006-11-12 Thread ts
Luther you run the one with the inhibitor or the stuff meant for diesels without inhibitor please. I might give it a whirl Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1979 240D - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent:

[MBZ] Fuel filter changes

2006-11-12 Thread ts
I have ben changing fuel filters in line and canister every 10,000 miles. Manual says every 37K on a 1979 240D Is this over kill or extra insurance. shoul I scale back? The groups thoughts please. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1979 240D 102K miles

[MBZ] New front discs...

2006-11-12 Thread Royce Engler
Gentlemen... I decided to replace the front disks on the shaggin wagin, ordered the new ones from Rusty, and just for fun, since I hadn't done it in a while, read the manual. Do you really have to replace the self locking hex socket bolts that say one time use only? When I did the job on my old

[MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?

2006-11-12 Thread John Peterson
Friends, why does MB sell the pads and rotors together- is it a good thing to do these together? I was going to have the dealer do brake pads and he only does them together. Is this a money robbing exercise or is there some merit to changing both at the same time? John Peterson 1991 300D

[MBZ] Water Wetter

2006-11-12 Thread John Peterson
I had the Redline water wetter in my Saab- it did drop the temp by a noticeable amount at idle in the summer. John Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does that Wetter Water Redline stuff do anything? Regards Tom Scordato ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] SDL radiator flush

2006-11-12 Thread Peter Frederick
Well, it cannot hurt to get the sawdust out That wood powder stop leak stuff should be outlawed, it causes more trouble than it fixes. Do yourself a favor and pressurize it fully before driving the car -- you do NOT want to find out it has pinholes by overheating it and cracking the

Re: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?

2006-11-12 Thread Royce Engler
Rusty sells 'em separately, but I think the dealer will too...the underlying question is if you are having him do the pads, why does he insist on doing the rotor also. The only time you **have** to change rotors is when they wear down to less than minimum thickness and can't be turned. I suppose

Re: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?

2006-11-12 Thread mykd1
It actually is a good thing to do these together considering the cost. Chances are pad and rotor sets are cheaper than they are if sold separate. Not always necessary to replace the rotors unless you are on your second or third set of pads. Also if there is considerable wear on the rotor or its

Re: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?

2006-11-12 Thread Jim Cathey
Friends, why does MB sell the pads and rotors together- is it a good thing to do these together? I was going to have the dealer do brake pads and he only does them together. Is this a money robbing exercise or is there some merit to changing both at the same time? It has to do with avoiding

Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes

2006-11-12 Thread Jim Cathey
I have been changing fuel filters in line and canister every 10,000 miles. Manual says every 37K on a 1979 240D Is this over kill or extra insurance. shoul I scale back? The groups thoughts please. I think the manual is closer to right than you are on this one. Unless you are having problems

Re: [MBZ] New front discs...

2006-11-12 Thread Sunil Hari
I just used loc-tite (blue stuff) on the old bolts and reinstalled at the correct torque. On 11/12/06, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentlemen... I decided to replace the front disks on the shaggin wagin, ordered the new ones from Rusty, and just for fun, since I hadn't done it in a

Re: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?

2006-11-12 Thread Peter Frederick
Benz rotors need to be replaced every third pad change (that is, you can run two sets of pads on them). They cannot be turned -- by the time you get them smooth, they are almost always too thin, and this will cause the pistons to seize in the calipers before the friction material is worn out

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] SDL radiator flush

2006-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
OK, so do tell, I would like one of these 24 machines maybe. Luther wrote: I purchased a Prestone Flush and Fill Machine that checks coolant system pressure, flushes the system with water, flushes with water and air agitation, and fills the coolant from a graduated reservoir. Flushed the

Re: [MBZ] 123 Dash

2006-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
u, Rusty Michael Hall wrote: Anyone have a source for a NEW 123 dash? We have a customer who wants to put a new one in his 1980 300D - he didn't flinch at the $8xx dealer price, but they say none are available in the US or Germany! That can't be right, can it? If no new ones are

Re: [MBZ] Car Fax

2006-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
mine has expired MICHAEL ESH wrote: Could someone please run a CarFax for WDBAB23A6DB415136 Thanks in advance, Mike in Michigan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes

2006-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
its overkill unless you ran into some bad fuel. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have ben changing fuel filters in line and canister every 10,000 miles. Manual says every 37K on a 1979 240D Is this over kill or extra insurance. shoul I scale back? The groups thoughts please. Regards Tom

Re: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?

2006-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
they are robbing money. Disks will last thru many sets of brake pads unless you run them down to the metal and they damage the rotor. John Peterson wrote: Friends, why does MB sell the pads and rotors together- is it a good thing to do these together? I was going to have the dealer do brake

Re: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?

2006-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Mercedes rotors are never to be turned. If they get warped or wear down, they are to be replaced. Royce Engler wrote: Rusty sells 'em separately, but I think the dealer will too...the underlying question is if you are having him do the pads, why does he insist on doing the rotor also. The

Re: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?

2006-11-12 Thread Peter Frederick
Over the last ten years, mine go two pad changes -- on the third, the rotors are too thin. Peter

Re: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?

2006-11-12 Thread Chris Kueny
For my 123 those rotors were amazingly inexpensive, too. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?

Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes

2006-11-12 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 11/12/2006 5:36:22 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have ben changing fuel filters in line and canister every 10,000 miles. Manual says every 37K on a 1979 240D Is this over kill or extra insurance. shoul I scale back? The groups thoughts

[MBZ] removing tank screen

2006-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
After removing the big line from the tank (this is a gas 126), I assume you just unscrew the big fitting for the tank screen? What I need to know, what size socket do you need to remove the tank screen? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87

Re: [MBZ] Water Wetter

2006-11-12 Thread Tom Hargrave
I agree but the stuff only works if you have a heat problem. Water Wetter will not drop your temperature below your thermostat temperature. But, if you have a heat problem it's not a known design flaw with the car then the best solution is to ID fix the cause instead of adding something to help

[MBZ] Left Rear Wheel tilt outward

2006-11-12 Thread Bill Gallagher
Just returned from a 70 mph drive and noticed no unusual noise, my good neighbor, noticed the left rear wheel is tilted inward, in other words the top of the wheel is tilted inward as the bottom is tilted outward by a couple of degrees. I jacked the car up and the wheel has no movement when

Re: [MBZ] Left Rear Wheel tilt outward

2006-11-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Bill Gallagher wrote: Just returned from a 70 mph drive and noticed no unusual noise, my good neighbor, noticed the left rear wheel is tilted inward, in other words the top of the wheel is tilted inward as the bottom is tilted outward by a couple of degrees. And it's a wagon? Isn't

Re: [MBZ] Left Rear Wheel tilt outward

2006-11-12 Thread Bill Gallagher
Mitch: It is a wagon. SLS is what? How about the 400 mile trip? TIA Bill 1981 300 TD Mitch Haley wrote: Bill Gallagher wrote: Just returned from a 70 mph drive and noticed no unusual noise, my good neighbor, noticed the left rear wheel is tilted inward, in other words the top of

Re: [MBZ] Left Rear Wheel tilt outward

2006-11-12 Thread Jeff Zedic
Self levelling suspension.

Re: [MBZ] Left Rear Wheel tilt outward

2006-11-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Bill Gallagher wrote: Mitch: It is a wagon. SLS is what? How about the 400 mile trip? TIA If everything seems tight and it doesn't ride like a buckboard, I'd make sure the SLS reservoir is full of the proper hydraulic fluid and go. I forgot a more likely problem, I believe the

Re: [MBZ] Left Rear Wheel tilt outward

2006-11-12 Thread Bill Gallagher
Mitch: Just check the SLS reservoir and it's at the full mark... Had the sub frames checked about a year ago, it was fine alone with new differential mounts . If drive fine and steers well and will try the zig-zig tomorrow . hope, I am not pulled over for drunk driving Bill

Re: [MBZ] [Banned] SDL radiator flush

2006-11-12 Thread OK Don
I'd like to know more about this machine as well - On 11/12/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so do tell, I would like one of these 24 machines maybe. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives.

Re: [MBZ] removing tank screen

2006-11-12 Thread OK Don
I haven't tried a 126, but the 107 took a 1 13/16 socket. I took the new one to Sears, and this was the only socket that fit it. I then hadto grind down the outside diameter to get it into the hole - the screem was off-center in the hole in the bottom of the trunk, and wouldn't let the socket get

Re: [MBZ] photographer of the week

2006-11-12 Thread Zeitgeist
Good thing he over-exposed those shots, or we'd probably see daylight through the some rust problems. On 11/11/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I thought the Frankenheap (same car, in gray) was rusty! Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?

2006-11-12 Thread LarryT
The frequency of change of rotors depends greatly on the type of pad used. The more aggressive the pad the less life the rotors will have. Some places advertise lifetime brake pads - that's because the rotors are being the sacrifical item. *Something* is going to wear and if the pads are

Re: [MBZ] Left Rear Wheel tilt outward

2006-11-12 Thread Jim Cathey
Just returned from a 70 mph drive and noticed no unusual noise, my good neighbor, noticed the left rear wheel is tilted inward, in other words the top of the wheel is tilted inward as the bottom is tilted outward by a couple of degrees. On our SDL this was caused by a bent trailing arm.

Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes

2006-11-12 Thread Jim Cathey
I would say overkill. On a diesel, the result of a clogged filter is merely a loss of power, no harm comes to the engine. Depends on the diesel! The non- common-rail 24-valve Cummins motor used by Dodge 'twixt 98 and '-2 (?) would eat the injection pump if the fuel filter clogged. It has a

Re: [MBZ] Disc Brakes- Change Pads and Rotors?

2006-11-12 Thread Peter Frederick
They are, every third set of pads, without fail so far. MB uses fairly thin rotors to reduce unsprung mass, frequent replacement is the trade-off. Given how well the brakes work, I have no problem. A set of rotors every 100,000 miles doesn't strike me as unreasonable. Peter

[MBZ] ball park $$ for E300-320??

2006-11-12 Thread E M
Hi Everyone, I'm new to the list, and I'm looking for an older Mercedes for both myself, and my Dad. LarryT had given me some good adivse so far. I was wonder what I should expect to pay for a either a sedan or wagon, late '80s to early 90's? Something with around 80,000-160,000 kms, I think