Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-23 Thread Mitch Haley
tom savage wrote: I saw something troubling today - a rusty W220 S-Class. It had rust bubbling out of the bottoms of all doors and quite a bit on the trunklid. And Texas license plates. Anyone else seeing this? I used to see a lot of repairable flood cars in Great Lakes area salvage

[MBZ] OT: Rinspeed goes the AmphiCar one better.

2008-02-23 Thread Mitch Haley
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Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel

2008-02-23 Thread Bill R
Earning? I was a graduate student at the time and director of a dormitory, with a very part time job. I was not earning much, but really don't remember anything but being broke about all the time. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [MBZ] OT going green

2008-02-23 Thread LarryT
Reminds me of an around-the-world sailor who once said, It's not how much you need, it's how *little* you really need. As evidenced by Brian -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE

Re: [MBZ] Racing driver from Stuttgart celebrates his 80th birthday

2008-02-23 Thread LarryT
Mr Herman has had an amazing life career. Very talented. On his quitting after winning Le Mans, that was a time when drivers were killed on a regular basis. I think it was D Bell or B Redman who said there's a photo of 10 drivers from the late 60s and only 3 or 4 are still alive. He

Re: [MBZ] OT Whoa look at the price of Al Gores fame

2008-02-23 Thread Jeff Zedic
That's a valid point I'd say. Makes sense to me...the vep has a pretty low profile. BTW, who is the veep now? (no I'm not joking)What the hell does he do all day anyway? Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate

2008-02-23 Thread LarryT
Wow! That's pretty steep. I got 8 for $10 at Costco (in Va) a few months ago. Personally I think they work pretty well. They take some time to warm up but once warmed up they're plenty bright for the locations they're in. Our bathroom ceiling light/exh fans are a PITA to change so the

Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate

2008-02-23 Thread LarryT
you wroteits already hard for farmers in places like California to compete with population for water That's what happens when you live in a desert and depend on mountain snowfall hundreds of miles away to provide everyone with water. It's not possible to *not* have some years when there is

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-23 Thread LarryT
I had a guy contact me asking me to do some research for him (I have a lot of MB documentation) because his 2000 S430 has flakes of paint falling off from the waist line down all around the car. Underneath the flaking paint was corrosion. He had bought the car new, was only serviced at a MB

Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate

2008-02-23 Thread LarryT
Penguins. I can understand the concern - their walk to the nesting sites was probably reduced. ;-) They probably can't stop talking about it. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE

Re: [MBZ] OT Whoa look at the price of Al Gores fame

2008-02-23 Thread LarryT
The current VP is Dick Chaney. He does a lot of hunting. ;-) So, we have algore being quiet on an issue that (according to him) is going to destroy the world? With the US being the problem and the solution yet he stays quiet for 8 years because of politics? That alone is reason to not

Re: [MBZ] OT Whoa look at the price of Al Gores fame

2008-02-23 Thread Frederick W Moir
At 09:26 AM 2/23/2008, you wrote: The current VP is Dick Chaney. He does a lot of hunting. ;-) So, we have algore being quiet That alone is reason to not trust his opinion on the price of tea let along the future of the world. Shows a decided lack of integrity. Folks This IS a Politician

Re: [MBZ] Racing driver from Stuttgart celebrates his 80th birthday

2008-02-23 Thread Jeff Zedic
You absolutely have to see this photo of him crashing a BRM at LeMans. (I think). The car is in front of him and tumbling through the air while he is sliding dow the track. He walked away! His are the BW photos. http://www.mundomotorizado.com/foros/viewtopic.php?f=88t=10769 Zedic

Re: [MBZ] OT Whoa look at the price of Al Gores fame

2008-02-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Jeff Zedic wrote: That's a valid point I'd say. Makes sense to me...the vep has a pretty low profile. BTW, who is the veep now? (no I'm not joking)What the hell does he do all day anyway? Richard Bruce (Dick) Cheney has been accused of running the country from the VP's office, much as

Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate

2008-02-23 Thread LarryT
Donald wrote:we do not know is whether the 1 degree increase in temperature that we have experienced over the last 100 years is going to have any affect Exactly. All we have heard is the gloom and doom of GW when there is a possibility it will bring great changes to some - for instance, the

Re: [MBZ] anybody want any SLC's?

2008-02-23 Thread Tom Hargrave
Interested in the 1959 220S? If so then I can take pictures on Sunday. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:15 AM To: Mercedes Discussion

Re: [MBZ] anybody want any SLC's?

2008-02-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
well, its been done Tom Hargrave wrote: If the chain's been replaced then I'm interested. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 2/22/08 7:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ]

[MBZ] Transmission modulator replacement

2008-02-23 Thread Tony Wirtel
Hello list- Got a replacement modulator for my '91 300D from Rusty: The new modulator requires use of an updated pin (p/n 126 277 93 75) which I got. Question is this: The modulator comes with what looks like a two piece pin, with a pin thats removable from the piston. The required

Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate

2008-02-23 Thread Rick Knoble
I'm wondering if you perhaps have a voltage fluctuation issue that causes them to burn out. Perhaps you may need to address something there. Maybe, maybe not. I have been using CFL since the '80s when I had to buy them through industrial supply houses. I still have some that I have been using

Re: [MBZ] OT: CF Bulbs Burning Out

2008-02-23 Thread Tom Hargrave
My Son burns out bulbs fast in his house, the CFs burn out at about the same rate as incandescent bulbs. I checked his line voltage it's too high. His 120VAC measures 136 VAC. Apparently CF bulbs are less tolerant than incandescent bulbs to higher line voltages. I told him that he could call

Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate

2008-02-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Rick Knoble wrote: I have NO IDEA who makes high quality CFL at the present time. My problem too. Feit used to sell CFLs made in France, I could buy them at Harbor Freight, Meijer and even Menards. Meijer still has Feit bulbs, they've been made in China for over five years, and are not the same

[MBZ] 240D Cylinder Head Removal

2008-02-23 Thread johnvi
List- I have the engine from my 83 240D in my basement. I replaced it with another engine. I would like to remove the cylinder head without bending or breaking the cam chain. How do I do this? I have the proper MBZ tool for removing the head bolts. The engine has 0 compression in Cyl. #1.

[MBZ] Used Parts website?

2008-02-23 Thread dave walton
I need a front bumper with foam for a 1991 E300TE 4Matic Wagon. Looks like 90-93 will fit. My Sister-in-law put her car into a snowbank and wants to keep the insurance company out of the deal. I had a link a while back to a website that looked like a place where a number of junkyards posted the

Re: [MBZ] 240D Cylinder Head Removal

2008-02-23 Thread Peter Frederick
Set to TDC, wire tie the cam sprocket to the chain, then use a bar through the holes in the sprocket to loosen the cam bolt. Remove chain tensioner, slide cam sproket off cam, and lower sprocket and chain into the chain case. At TDC, there is no tension on the vac pump, so the chain

Re: [MBZ] Used Parts website?

2008-02-23 Thread Zeitgeist
Earlier '86-'89 124 models will also work, but they lack the holes for the chrome strip under the headlights http://www.silverstarrecycling.com/ http://mbpartsonline.com/ And, of course, Kaleb sells used parts, but I don't know if he has much 124 stock On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:31 AM, dave

Re: [MBZ] Car Fax?

2008-02-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Rinspeed goes the AmphiCar one better.

2008-02-23 Thread dave walton
I was getting excited there for a bit. But if they can't keep the occupants dry, it's going nowhere fast. -Dave Walton On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Announcing the Rinspeed sQuba, the first submersible amphibious automobile. Remember James Bond's Lotus

Re: [MBZ] Used Parts website?

2008-02-23 Thread Rory
try this one www.car-parts.com On 2/23/08, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need a front bumper with foam for a 1991 E300TE 4Matic Wagon. Looks like 90-93 will fit. My Sister-in-law put her car into a snowbank and wants to keep the insurance company out of the deal. I had a link a while

Re: [MBZ] OT: Rinspeed goes the AmphiCar one better.

2008-02-23 Thread Mitch Haley
dave walton wrote: I was getting excited there for a bit. But if they can't keep the occupants dry, it's going nowhere fast. Ya, I was surprised to see that it was a roadster. Must have major drain holes in the cockpit floor for when you leave the water. I also wonder how well it goes in

Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens

2008-02-23 Thread Redghost
sorry for late reply I keep chickens. Small city yard and this is about all that fits. Great for allergy prone kids too. They feel. both pain and emotion. Chickens are very loving birds when given love from the start. They can become feral and lose that loving feeling, but I raise

Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens

2008-02-23 Thread E M
Lucky guy, wish I lived in a place that allowed a few such animals. Ed 300E On 23/02/2008, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry for late reply I keep chickens. Small city yard and this is about all that fits. Great for allergy prone kids too. They feel. both pain and emotion.

Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel

2008-02-23 Thread andrew strasfogel
Alybody remember the gas wars of the 60s on the highway to Boston from New Haven? There was a strip with traffic lights and many competing gas stations, one of which had it down to $.22/gal. during the war. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Earning? I was a

[MBZ] Nebraska Rod Bender

2008-02-23 Thread Rick Knoble
http://omaha.craigslist.org/pts/583609650.html Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate

2008-02-23 Thread Curt Raymond
We'll lose permafrost, Caribou and Elk will be negatively impacted, never mind the polar bears. How do we know the deserts will grow stuff its water they need not heat. Most of the added water will be salt water after all. I think its probably more likely we'll see desert areas grow... Never

[MBZ] Fw: Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader?

2008-02-23 Thread Luther
My name's on the list, where's yours?? -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (176 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Rusty Cullens [EMAIL

[MBZ] Fw: How old is Grandpa???

2008-02-23 Thread LarryT
Thought ya'll might get a kick out of this - Larry T - Original Message - From: To: LarryT Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 9:43 AM Subject: How old is Grandpa??? You probably have seen this before, but I get a kick out of it every time I read it... Don How old is Grandpa???

[MBZ] lovley 1967 200D Mercedes Benz for sale $3500 or best offer - $3500 (Cambridge)

2008-02-23 Thread fred . star
An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080223/ae61f6c2/attachment.pl ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http

Re: [MBZ] 190D question

2008-02-23 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:22:34 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dork that I am, I neglected to make clear that only the manual transmission cars have the damper. Hence my problem. If you have an AT don't waste your time looking! Danke. -- Jim On Friday, February 22, 2008, at

Re: [MBZ] Nebraska Rod Bender

2008-02-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Rick Knoble wrote: http://omaha.craigslist.org/pts/583609650.html We were driving and lost oil pressure, Doesn't the 350SD have an oil level warning light for when the engine starts burning oil? At any rate, I wouldn't mess with it unless I had a 603 I wanted to find a home for, and wouldn't

Re: [MBZ] OT Whoa look at the price of Al Gores fame

2008-02-23 Thread Scott Ritchey
As I recall, the NY Times was a good newspaper in my youth (50s). Now, it seems more like a PAC masquerading as a newspaper. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 11:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate

2008-02-23 Thread Scott Ritchey
Let's go back to the good old days before we screwed up the environment ... and most of North America was covered with ice. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-23 Thread Hendrik Fay
Apparently Daimler is aware of the problem and is doing repairs on the quiet. However that may be just another internet myth. Isn't the 220 chassis galvanized? Hendrik who has a little bit of rust to fix in the 300TE LarryT wrote: I had a guy contact me asking me to do some research for him (I

Re: [MBZ] Fw: How old is Grandpa???

2008-02-23 Thread Rick Knoble
reminds me of a Tim McGraw song I miss back when... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-23 Thread Gary Hurst
i figure the only people who would consider buying a new mercedes are the people still shopping at places like sears. stupid, lost, addled by substance abuse, etc. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:15 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a guy contact me asking me to do some research for him (I

[MBZ] eBay 1990 124 diesel cheap

2008-02-23 Thread Rick Knoble
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300D_W0QQitemZ220205306215QQihZ012QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Cheap Florida 124 diesel. This one will go quick. $2700 buy it now and a seller with 100% feedback. I am tempted to buy it myself. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190

Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate

2008-02-23 Thread Tom Hargrave
Why go back that far? Why not go back to the early 20th century when city streets were covered with horse poop from horse drawn buggies people poop from residents dumping their pans out the front window? Or go back to the mid-1800's when the river Themes (in England) got so polluted that people

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader?

2008-02-23 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:32:43 -0600 Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Message Good luck with this and have fun! This is a 5th grade math problem. If you can't stand word math problems, just delete now. If you can open the spreadsheet, you'll see

Re: [MBZ] OT: CF Bulbs Burning Out

2008-02-23 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:01:01 -0600 Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Son burns out bulbs fast in his house, the CFs burn out at about the same rate as incandescent bulbs. I checked his line voltage it's too high. His 120VAC measures 136 VAC. Apparently CF bulbs are less tolerant

Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel

2008-02-23 Thread John M McIntosh
usually because of the heat from office equipment/lights etc the issue is keeping the heat down. I once worked as a consultant in a Sprint owned 20 story building, during the weekend coding madness the temp would climb to 90F+ We finally said this is crazy how much does it cost to run the

Re: [MBZ] OT: CF Bulbs Burning Out

2008-02-23 Thread John M McIntosh
On Feb 23, 2008, at 3:52 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: I told him that he could call the utility company they will fix the over voltage problem by moving a tap on his line transformer at no charge. That's the least they should do. Speaking of which it's always good to phone your electrical

Re: [MBZ] Transmission modulator replacement

2008-02-23 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:29:08 -0500 Tony Wirtel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list- Got a replacement modulator for my '91 300D from Rusty: The new modulator requires use of an updated pin (p/n 126 277 93 75) which I got. Question is this: The modulator comes with what looks

Re: [MBZ] 190D question

2008-02-23 Thread Mitch Haley
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[MBZ] At least one thing worked today

2008-02-23 Thread Peter Frederick
This has been quite a day -- developed the pictures I took of the Lunar eclipse the other night and discovered that my favorite camera is busted (dragging, now locked, first shutter curtain), so that means a tear-down shortly. All the batteries for my new Pismo are shot, so I have to

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-23 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Hey, I still shop at Sears, for tools that is, and would definitely still buy a new mercedes. I believe that the quality issues were an unfortunate but necessary phase in the history of the company. Every car company has had issues at some point. I also feel that the quality issues are getting

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-23 Thread Wonko the Sane
Folks who can afford to own a new Benz do not shop at Sears. They hire folks to shop for them. A new S Class Benz is priced about at what I paid for my house a couple of years ago. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i figure the only people who would consider

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-23 Thread Wonko the Sane
MARSHALL LIVES! On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Dimitri Seretakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lets also not forget about safety. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-23 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I still shop at Sears, and I would still buy a new MB. That doesn't mean that I can afford to buy a new MB. Many people who by new Mercedes today cannot afford them as many people who buy houses today also can't afford them. This is a consumer oriented nation. We are all stretched beyond our

Re: [MBZ] blah blah blah

2008-02-23 Thread RELNGSON
i figure the only people who would consider buying a new mercedes are the people still shopping at places like sears. stupid, lost, addled by substance abuse, etc. You figure. Now there's a concept. RLE/'08 C300 ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.

Re: [MBZ] Sears

2008-02-23 Thread RELNGSON
Folks who can afford to own a new Benz do not shop at Sears. They hire folks to shop for them. Are you available? Boy. RLE ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-23 Thread Wonko the Sane
Ask anyone who came to the IowaQ in the fall -- I have a pegboard on my garage wall dedicated to Craftsman wrenches and sockets. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Dimitri Seretakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still shop at Sears -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-23 Thread Wonko the Sane
I beg to differ. The only folks to whom I have a debt is my mortgage company, and that is only because I didn't have a $75K balance in my checking account when I purchased this house. I have no credit cards. I use a debit card. If there isn't money in the bank, I don't buy it. I have no car loans

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust

2008-02-23 Thread E M
Cars between the late late 90's, up until recently, didn't interest me much, but before that, and several of the current models look great. There are still a few models on the showroom floor, from the period I don't care for, but as they are replaces, I'm sure they too will be for the quality of

Re: [MBZ] Sears

2008-02-23 Thread Wonko the Sane
Nope. I have a nice management job. Pay sucks but the fringe benefits are beyond a salary. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you available? Boy. RLE ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (

Re: [MBZ] blah blah blah

2008-02-23 Thread Wonko the Sane
Lease? Cash? Long term debt? Depreciation to date? Current value vs. price paid? On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RLE/'08 C300 ** Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (

Re: [MBZ] 190D question

2008-02-23 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:24:03 -0500 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: When I put the manual transmission and 617 in our car, I added the throttle damper by getting a thread-mounting ball from a junk injection pump and threading it into the appropriate threaded hole

[MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-23 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:18:56 -0600 Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I beg to differ. The only folks to whom I have a debt is my mortgage company, and that is only because I didn't have a $75K balance in my checking account when I purchased this house. I have no credit cards. I use a

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-23 Thread Wonko the Sane
I live in Jefferson, Iowa. I use the debit card at the ATM and for PayPal. It isn't like I am back in NYC or DC! :-) On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:18:56 -0600 Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good ideas there.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig McCluskey wrote: Good ideas there. However, you have much less protection when you use a debit card than when you use a credit card. I can't rattle off the particulars, but they are noticable. That's correct, although the networks (Visa, M/C) do voluntarily give some of the protections

Re: [MBZ] blah blah blah

2008-02-23 Thread Gary Hurst
if i were out to bust crack and meth heads, i'd get a list of new mercedes buyers On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i figure the only people who would consider buying a new mercedes are the people still shopping at places like sears. stupid, lost, addled by

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-23 Thread Wonko the Sane
We live in entirely different economic environments. I buy diesel (and, regrettably, gas for Debbie's Buick) on the debit card. I buy groceries on the debit card. I do PayPal for eBay on the debit card. Other than that, I take money out of the ATM and pull out some $20s. About the only reason I

Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-23 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:25:49 -0600 Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For me, it is a cash economy. If I can't pay for it today, I ain't buying it. I didn't say you should use credit cards for the credit they can provide. You can use them as if they were debit cards -- which is really the

Re: [MBZ] blah blah blah

2008-02-23 Thread E M
Just have to remember, somebody had to pay those big bucks up front for the new cars, to allow for all that fine German engineering. The stuff that went into making a W123 great, didn't come cheap, and someone paid for it. I don't poo poo the the guys who paid the big bucks up front for new

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust - now new MB's and $$$

2008-02-23 Thread Bill R
A friend deals with car/train accidents for a major RR. He said I would not believe the number of new and late model MB's [and other high end cars] that suddenly develop engine problems causing them to stop in front of a train - just after the person making the payments loses a job. Yes, many

Re: [MBZ] W220 rust - now new MB's and $$$

2008-02-23 Thread Timothy Robinson
My boss is actually the guy who represents the company and who's signs my contract. Today we were talking and he says, Why don't you buy a new Mercedes? Obviously you like the cars. My response (we've just negotiated the next season's contract), ...Then I'd be like you, so deep in debt with your

Re: [MBZ] Brand new car

2008-02-23 Thread RELNGSON
Lease? Cash? Long term debt? Depreciation to date? Current value vs. price paid? Cash. What the hell does it matter, anyway? You sound like all that matters is studying your spread sheets. But seriously, folks. When you live out in the middle of nowhere, a new car doesn't make any sense.