On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 12:55:44PM -0700, Eric Anholt wrote:
Tom Stellard t...@stellard.net writes:
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 03:07:36PM -0700, Ian Romanick wrote:
On 08/27/2014 02:55 PM, Marek Olšák wrote:
Our plan is to always require the latest released version of LLVM
because of new
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 02:35:02PM -0700, Ian Romanick wrote:
On 08/22/2014 02:17 PM, Tom Stellard wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 02:10:03PM -0700, Ian Romanick wrote:
On 08/20/2014 11:58 AM, Tom Stellard wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:13:13AM -0700, Kenneth Graunke wrote:
On
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 03:07:36PM -0700, Ian Romanick wrote:
On 08/27/2014 02:55 PM, Marek Olšák wrote:
Our plan is to always require the latest released version of LLVM
because of new features in our LLVM backend that the radeonsi driver
depends on to advertise all GL features. Some new
Tom Stellard t...@stellard.net writes:
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 03:07:36PM -0700, Ian Romanick wrote:
On 08/27/2014 02:55 PM, Marek Olšák wrote:
Our plan is to always require the latest released version of LLVM
because of new features in our LLVM backend that the radeonsi driver
depends on
of Marek
Olšák mar...@gmail.com
Sent: 30 August 2014 12:07
To: Ian Romanick
Cc: Greg Fischer; mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [Mesa-dev] [RFC PATCH 00/16] A new IR for Mesa
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Ian Romanick i...@freedesktop.org wrote:
On 08/27/2014 02:55 PM, Marek Olšák
On 28.08.2014 19:58, Henri Verbeet wrote:
On 28 August 2014 05:21, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote:
Sure, it's not impossible, but is that really the kind of process you
want users to go through when bisecting a regression?
I appreciate your theoretical concern, but in practice, people
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Ian Romanick i...@freedesktop.org wrote:
On 08/27/2014 02:55 PM, Marek Olšák wrote:
Our plan is to always require the latest released version of LLVM
because of new features in our LLVM backend that the radeonsi driver
depends on to advertise all GL features.
Some additional information on GlassyMesa from the engineer who integrated
LunarGlass and wrote the LLVM Bottom IR to GLSL IR pass.
[Begin Steve...]
I wasn't subscribed to the mesa-dev list at the time of prior replies to
this thread, so sending this to the list via Greg.
Per request from
After all the messages, some think that llvm is the solution.
And why is the Connor solution right ?
This is an very hard problem and some people want the easiest way out.
That is llvm.
I think we need the Connor in house approach.
I think we can have compiler experts, here.
If no one want to
Maybe a heretical thought, but how close are you guys to shortcut the
front end compiler with let's say the LLVM back end in radeonsi?
Regards,
Christian.
Am 29.08.2014 um 17:51 schrieb Greg Fischer:
Some additional information on GlassyMesa from the engineer who integrated
LunarGlass and
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 5:07 AM, Christian König
christian.koe...@amd.com wrote:
At least with the other components on which Mesa relies (e.g., libdrm,
2D drivers, etc.) it's largely the same group of people with the same
set of goals.
This was only true until Tom Stellard started to manage
At least with the other components on which Mesa relies (e.g., libdrm,
2D drivers, etc.) it's largely the same group of people with the same
set of goals.
This was only true until Tom Stellard started to manage LLVM point releases.
Christian.
Am 28.08.2014 um 00:07 schrieb Ian Romanick:
On
I'd like to say up front that while I could imagine that perhaps some
of my comments on radeonsi could be perceived as harsh, it's not my
intention to pick on radeonsi or anyone working on radeonsi in
particular. I just think radeonsi / r600g is probably the best
comparison inside Mesa for a
On 26/08/14 18:59, Matt Turner wrote:
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Jose Fonseca jfons...@vmware.com wrote:
If LLVM was a useless piece of junk, we wouldn't have any trouble adding it
as a dependency, as we would be the sole user. But precisely because LLVM
is successful in so many use
Note that it is easy to add swizzle, saturate, clamp, etc. intrinsics to
LLVM IR. Going a step further, LunarGLASS adds these, and then asks the
current back end what it would like to see (back-end queries).
If a back end says it likes a particular form, then LunarGLASS can
transform the LLVM IR
Hi Connor,
Lots of good work in defining a new IR.
I would like to address the LLVM issues: LunarG's LunarGLASS conventions
on LLVM IR generally solve these problems: It has algorithms to re-deduce
structured control flow, and if you just want to use LLVM IR as an
intermediate language, it
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:26 PM, John Kessenich jo...@lunarg.com wrote:
Hi,
If Mesa used an LLVM IR for it's shader compiler stack, it would most likely
Pick a specific shipped version. Shipped versions are stable and
unchanging. Upgrading to a newer version would be done only by choice,
Our plan is to always require the latest released version of LLVM
because of new features in our LLVM backend that the radeonsi driver
depends on to advertise all GL features. Some new features listed for
the radeonsi driver in Mesa release notes are only enabled if you have
latest LLVM from
On 08/27/2014 02:55 PM, Marek Olšák wrote:
Our plan is to always require the latest released version of LLVM
because of new features in our LLVM backend that the radeonsi driver
depends on to advertise all GL features. Some new features listed for
the radeonsi driver in Mesa release notes are
So, I don't suppose it is possible to have multiple side-by-side llvm's?
They each go in their own subdirectory, with the version number in the path.
I don't really look forward to having to recompile llvm when switching
between branches.
LLVM would sit next to mesa, fully compiled, as many
On 21.08.2014 18:10, Henri Verbeet wrote:
On 21 August 2014 04:56, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote:
On 21.08.2014 04:29, Henri Verbeet wrote:
For whatever it's worth, I have been avoiding radeonsi in part because
of the LLVM dependency. Some of the other issues already mentioned
aside,
Am 26.08.2014 um 03:54 schrieb Rob Clark:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Kenneth Graunke kenn...@whitecape.org wrote:
we've already had problems where distros refused to ship newer Mesa
releases because radeon depended on a version of LLVM newer than the
one they were shipping, [...]
That's
On 26/08/14 10:04, Christian König wrote:
Am 26.08.2014 um 03:54 schrieb Rob Clark:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Kenneth Graunke
kenn...@whitecape.org wrote:
we've already had problems where distros refused to ship newer Mesa
releases because radeon depended on a version of LLVM newer than
Am 26.08.2014 um 18:00 schrieb Jose Fonseca:
On 26/08/14 10:04, Christian König wrote:
Am 26.08.2014 um 03:54 schrieb Rob Clark:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Kenneth Graunke
kenn...@whitecape.org wrote:
we've already had problems where distros refused to ship newer Mesa
releases because
On 08/25/2014 06:58 PM, Rob Clark wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Connor Abbott cwabbo...@gmail.com wrote:
Importing/forking the llvm IR code with a different symbol set, and
trying to not intentionally
be incompatible with their llvm.
That sounds like a huge amount of work,
On 08/25/2014 06:54 PM, Rob Clark wrote:
tbh, it sounds a lot to me like if we start using LLVM more
heavily/widely in mesa we should import LLVM (or at least the parts we
need) into the mesa src tree.. as it is, the logistical/distro issues
of LLVM have been what has scared me off the most
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Jose Fonseca jfons...@vmware.com wrote:
If LLVM was a useless piece of junk, we wouldn't have any trouble adding it
as a dependency, as we would be the sole user. But precisely because LLVM
is successful in so many use cases, hence several packages depend on
While I haven't heard about those projects, there's also GlassyMesa.
Greg from LunarG (CC'd) posted about this to the mailing list. [1]
However it looks like the github activity has stopped,
and there's no new info on the projects website since its announcement.
While it's not exactly the same as
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Thomas Helland
thomashellan...@gmail.com wrote:
While I haven't heard about those projects, there's also GlassyMesa.
Greg from LunarG (CC'd) posted about this to the mailing list. [1]
However it looks like the github activity has stopped,
and there's no new
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Jose Fonseca jfons...@vmware.com wrote:
On 26/08/14 10:04, Christian König wrote:
Am 26.08.2014 um 03:54 schrieb Rob Clark:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Kenneth Graunke
kenn...@whitecape.org wrote:
we've already had problems where distros refused to
=
actually we already do the opposite thing in fedora..
you are right, normally distro's prefer to unbundle things.. LLVM is
kinda special (which really should be a warning sign right there)
In Fedora we unbundle llvm, in RHEL we create a special package of
llvm for mesa to use, but that
On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:05:35 AM Ian Romanick wrote:
On 08/25/2014 06:54 PM, Rob Clark wrote:
tbh, it sounds a lot to me like if we start using LLVM more
heavily/widely in mesa we should import LLVM (or at least the parts we
need) into the mesa src tree.. as it is, the
The GlassyMesa effort is ongoing despite the lack of recent activity. We
continue to embrace LLVM as a basis for shader compilation in Mesa and
elsewhere.
We agree that translating from LLVM back up to GLSL IR is problematic and
that an architecture that supports LLVM backends would be desirable.
On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 06:45:42 PM Greg Fischer wrote:
The GlassyMesa effort is ongoing despite the lack of recent activity. We
continue to embrace LLVM as a basis for shader compilation in Mesa and
elsewhere.
We agree that translating from LLVM back up to GLSL IR is problematic and
My apologies for a too-brief response to this question.
GlassyMesa links LLVM statically into Mesa. I believe that previous posters
to this thread have already done a pretty good job of arguing that this is
at least a workable approach.
Best regards,
Greg
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 7:14 PM,
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Kenneth Graunke kenn...@whitecape.org wrote:
we've already had problems where distros refused to ship newer Mesa
releases because radeon depended on a version of LLVM newer than the
one they were shipping, [...]
That's news to me, can you be more specific?
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Connor Abbott cwabbo...@gmail.com wrote:
Importing/forking the llvm IR code with a different symbol set, and
trying to not intentionally
be incompatible with their llvm.
That sounds like a huge amount of work, possibly even more work than
going it on our own
Am 22.08.2014 um 18:01 schrieb Connor Abbott:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Christian König
deathsim...@vodafone.de wrote:
Am 22.08.2014 um 17:13 schrieb Connor Abbott:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Dave Airlie airl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 22 August 2014 12:46, Jason Ekstrand
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 5:14 AM, Christian König
deathsim...@vodafone.de wrote:
Am 22.08.2014 um 18:01 schrieb Connor Abbott:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Christian König
deathsim...@vodafone.de wrote:
Am 22.08.2014 um 17:13 schrieb Connor Abbott:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:08 PM,
In that case staying as close as possible to spir may make sense?
OG.
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:08 AM, Dave Airlie airl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 22 August 2014 12:46, Jason Ekstrand ja...@jlekstrand.net wrote:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Dave Airlie airl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 21
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 01:08:02PM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
On 22 August 2014 12:46, Jason Ekstrand ja...@jlekstrand.net wrote:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Dave Airlie airl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 21 August 2014 19:10, Henri Verbeet hverb...@gmail.com wrote:
On 21 August 2014 04:56,
On 23 August 2014 00:15, Tom Stellard t...@stellard.net wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 01:08:02PM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
On 22 August 2014 12:46, Jason Ekstrand ja...@jlekstrand.net wrote:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Dave Airlie airl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 21 August 2014 19:10,
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Dave Airlie airl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 22 August 2014 12:46, Jason Ekstrand ja...@jlekstrand.net wrote:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Dave Airlie airl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 21 August 2014 19:10, Henri Verbeet hverb...@gmail.com wrote:
On 21 August 2014
Am 22.08.2014 um 17:13 schrieb Connor Abbott:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Dave Airlie airl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 22 August 2014 12:46, Jason Ekstrand ja...@jlekstrand.net wrote:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Dave Airlie airl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 21 August 2014 19:10, Henri Verbeet
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Christian König
deathsim...@vodafone.de wrote:
Am 22.08.2014 um 17:13 schrieb Connor Abbott:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Dave Airlie airl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 22 August 2014 12:46, Jason Ekstrand ja...@jlekstrand.net wrote:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Christian König
deathsim...@vodafone.de wrote:
Am 22.08.2014 um 17:13 schrieb Connor Abbott:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Dave Airlie airl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 22 August 2014 12:46, Jason Ekstrand ja...@jlekstrand.net wrote:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 12:17:00AM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
On 23 August 2014 00:15, Tom Stellard t...@stellard.net wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 01:08:02PM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
On 22 August 2014 12:46, Jason Ekstrand ja...@jlekstrand.net wrote:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Dave
On 08/18/2014 05:44 AM, Roland Scheidegger wrote:
Am 16.08.2014 02:12, schrieb Connor Abbott:
I know what you might be thinking right now. Wait, *another* IR? Don't
we already have like 5 of those, not counting all the driver-specific
ones? Isn't this stuff complicated enough already? Well,
On 08/19/2014 11:33 PM, Francisco Jerez wrote:
Connor Abbott cwabbo...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Francisco Jerez curroje...@riseup.net
wrote:
Tom Stellard t...@stellard.net writes:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:04:59AM -0400, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18,
On 08/20/2014 09:11 AM, Francisco Jerez wrote:
Connor Abbott cwabbo...@gmail.com writes:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Francisco Jerez curroje...@riseup.net
wrote:
Connor Abbott cwabbo...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Francisco Jerez curroje...@riseup.net
wrote:
On 08/20/2014 11:58 AM, Tom Stellard wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:13:13AM -0700, Kenneth Graunke wrote:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 06:41:08 PM Michel Dänzer wrote:
On 20.08.2014 00:04, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote:
On
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Tom Stellard t...@stellard.net wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 02:10:03PM -0700, Ian Romanick wrote:
Speaking of new shader stages... how would LLVM handle the 'precise'
keyword in tesselation shaders? I can envision ways to handle this in
an IR that we
On 08/22/2014 02:17 PM, Tom Stellard wrote:
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 02:10:03PM -0700, Ian Romanick wrote:
On 08/20/2014 11:58 AM, Tom Stellard wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:13:13AM -0700, Kenneth Graunke wrote:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 06:41:08 PM Michel Dänzer wrote:
On 20.08.2014
On 21 August 2014 04:56, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote:
On 21.08.2014 04:29, Henri Verbeet wrote:
For whatever it's worth, I have been avoiding radeonsi in part because
of the LLVM dependency. Some of the other issues already mentioned
aside, I also think it makes it just painful to
On 21 August 2014 19:10, Henri Verbeet hverb...@gmail.com wrote:
On 21 August 2014 04:56, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote:
On 21.08.2014 04:29, Henri Verbeet wrote:
For whatever it's worth, I have been avoiding radeonsi in part because
of the LLVM dependency. Some of the other issues
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Dave Airlie airl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 21 August 2014 19:10, Henri Verbeet hverb...@gmail.com wrote:
On 21 August 2014 04:56, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote:
On 21.08.2014 04:29, Henri Verbeet wrote:
For whatever it's worth, I have been avoiding
On 22 August 2014 12:46, Jason Ekstrand ja...@jlekstrand.net wrote:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Dave Airlie airl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 21 August 2014 19:10, Henri Verbeet hverb...@gmail.com wrote:
On 21 August 2014 04:56, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote:
On 21.08.2014 04:29,
Connor Abbott cwabbo...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Francisco Jerez curroje...@riseup.net
wrote:
Tom Stellard t...@stellard.net writes:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:04:59AM -0400, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net
I think we can fix this by introducing new structured variants of the
branch instruction in a way that doesn't alter the fundamental structure
of the IR. E.g. an if branch could look like:
ifbr i1 cond, label iftrue, label iffalse, label join
Where both branches are guaranteed to converge at
On 20.08.2014 00:04, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote:
On 19.08.2014 01:28, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote:
On 16.08.2014 09:12, Connor Abbott wrote:
I know what you might
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Francisco Jerez curroje...@riseup.net wrote:
Connor Abbott cwabbo...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Francisco Jerez curroje...@riseup.net
wrote:
Tom Stellard t...@stellard.net writes:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:04:59AM -0400, Connor
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:41 AM, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote:
On 20.08.2014 00:04, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote:
On 19.08.2014 01:28, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Michel Dänzer
Am 20.08.2014 um 14:33 schrieb Connor Abbott:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:57 PM, Christian König
deathsim...@vodafone.de wrote:
I think we can fix this by introducing new structured variants of the
branch instruction in a way that doesn't alter the fundamental structure
of the IR. E.g. an if
Connor Abbott cwabbo...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Francisco Jerez curroje...@riseup.net
wrote:
Connor Abbott cwabbo...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Francisco Jerez curroje...@riseup.net
wrote:
Tom Stellard t...@stellard.net writes:
On
And don't forget that explicit vec4 becomes immensely amusing once you
add fp64/double to the problem.
OG.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Francisco Jerez curroje...@riseup.net wrote:
Connor Abbott cwabbo...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Francisco Jerez
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 5:57 AM, Christian König
deathsim...@vodafone.de wrote:
Am 20.08.2014 um 14:33 schrieb Connor Abbott:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:57 PM, Christian König
deathsim...@vodafone.de wrote:
I think we can fix this by introducing new structured variants of the
branch
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Francisco Jerez curroje...@riseup.net wrote:
Connor Abbott cwabbo...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Francisco Jerez curroje...@riseup.net
wrote:
Connor Abbott cwabbo...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Francisco Jerez
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Francisco Jerez curroje...@riseup.net wrote:
Connor Abbott cwabbo...@gmail.com writes:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Francisco Jerez curroje...@riseup.net
wrote:
Connor Abbott cwabbo...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Francisco Jerez
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 06:41:08 PM Michel Dänzer wrote:
On 20.08.2014 00:04, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote:
On 19.08.2014 01:28, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net
Am 20.08.2014 20:13, schrieb Kenneth Graunke:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 06:41:08 PM Michel Dänzer wrote:
On 20.08.2014 00:04, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Michel Dänzer
mic...@daenzer.net wrote:
On 19.08.2014 01:28, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Roland Scheidegger srol...@vmware.com wrote:
Am 20.08.2014 20:13, schrieb Kenneth Graunke:
For example, Debian was stuck on Mesa 9.2.2 for 4 months (2013-12-08
to 2014-03-22), and I was told this was because of LLVM versioning
changes in the other drivers
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Kenneth Graunke kenn...@whitecape.org wrote:
Gentoo has also had trouble updating for similar reasons; Matt (the Gentoo
Mesa package mantainer) can probably comment more.
Yes, at one point we were stuck two releases behind current Mesa (and
this is Gentoo!)
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:13:13AM -0700, Kenneth Graunke wrote:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 06:41:08 PM Michel Dänzer wrote:
On 20.08.2014 00:04, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote:
On 19.08.2014 01:28, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 05:19:15PM -0700, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Tom Stellard t...@stellard.net wrote:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 01:37:56PM -0700, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Francisco Jerez curroje...@riseup.net
wrote:
Tom
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Matt Turner matts...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Kenneth Graunke kenn...@whitecape.org
wrote:
Gentoo has also had trouble updating for similar reasons; Matt (the Gentoo
Mesa package mantainer) can probably comment more.
Yes, at one
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Tom Stellard t...@stellard.net wrote:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 05:19:15PM -0700, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Tom Stellard t...@stellard.net wrote:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 01:37:56PM -0700, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at
On 20 August 2014 20:13, Kenneth Graunke kenn...@whitecape.org wrote:
I've also heard stories from friends of mine who use radeonsi that they
couldn't get new GL features or compiler fixes unless they upgrade both Mesa
/and/ LLVM, and that LLVM was usually either not released or not available
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Stéphane Marchesin
stephane.marche...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Matt Turner matts...@gmail.com wrote:
Having multiple versions installed in parallel breaks down pretty
easily. Where do the headers go? Where do all the executables go? Do
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:56:32AM -0700, Matt Turner wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Kenneth Graunke kenn...@whitecape.org
wrote:
Gentoo has also had trouble updating for similar reasons; Matt (the Gentoo
Mesa package mantainer) can probably comment more.
Yes, at one point we
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:26:15PM -0700, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Tom Stellard t...@stellard.net wrote:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 05:19:15PM -0700, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Tom Stellard t...@stellard.net wrote:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014
Am 20.08.2014 20:45, schrieb Matt Turner:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Roland Scheidegger srol...@vmware.com
wrote:
Am 20.08.2014 20:13, schrieb Kenneth Graunke:
For example, Debian was stuck on Mesa 9.2.2 for 4 months (2013-12-08
to 2014-03-22), and I was told this was because of LLVM
On 21.08.2014 04:29, Henri Verbeet wrote:
On 20 August 2014 20:13, Kenneth Graunke kenn...@whitecape.org wrote:
I've also heard stories from friends of mine who use radeonsi that they
couldn't get new GL features or compiler fixes unless they upgrade both Mesa
/and/ LLVM, and that LLVM was
On 21.08.2014 03:13, Kenneth Graunke wrote:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 06:41:08 PM Michel Dänzer wrote:
On 20.08.2014 00:04, Connor Abbott wrote:
we've already had problems where distros refused to ship newer
Mesa releases because radeon depended on a version of LLVM newer
than the one
On 21.08.2014 03:56, Matt Turner wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Kenneth Graunke kenn...@whitecape.org
wrote:
Gentoo has also had trouble updating for similar reasons; Matt (the Gentoo
Mesa package mantainer) can probably comment more.
Yes, at one point we were stuck two releases
Connor Abbott cwabbo...@gmail.com writes:
I know what you might be thinking right now. Wait, *another* IR? Don't
we already have like 5 of those, not counting all the driver-specific
ones? Isn't this stuff complicated enough already? Well, there are some
pretty good reasons to start afresh
On 18/08/14 17:25, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Jose Fonseca jfons...@vmware.com wrote:
On 18/08/14 14:21, Marek Olšák wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Roland Scheidegger srol...@vmware.com
wrote:
Am 16.08.2014 02:12, schrieb Connor Abbott:
I know what you
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote:
On 19.08.2014 01:28, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote:
On 16.08.2014 09:12, Connor Abbott wrote:
I know what you might be thinking right now. Wait, *another* IR?
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Roland Scheidegger srol...@vmware.com wrote:
Am 18.08.2014 19:05, schrieb Connor Abbott:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Ilia Mirkin imir...@alum.mit.edu wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Connor Abbott cwabbo...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:04:59AM -0400, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote:
On 19.08.2014 01:28, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote:
On 16.08.2014 09:12, Connor Abbott
Tom Stellard t...@stellard.net writes:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:04:59AM -0400, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote:
On 19.08.2014 01:28, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Francisco Jerez curroje...@riseup.net wrote:
Tom Stellard t...@stellard.net writes:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:04:59AM -0400, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote:
On 19.08.2014 01:28, Connor Abbott
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 01:37:56PM -0700, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Francisco Jerez curroje...@riseup.net
wrote:
Tom Stellard t...@stellard.net writes:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:04:59AM -0400, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Michel
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Tom Stellard t...@stellard.net wrote:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 01:37:56PM -0700, Connor Abbott wrote:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Francisco Jerez curroje...@riseup.net
wrote:
Tom Stellard t...@stellard.net writes:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:04:59AM
On 16.08.2014 09:12, Connor Abbott wrote:
I know what you might be thinking right now. Wait, *another* IR? Don't
we already have like 5 of those, not counting all the driver-specific
ones? Isn't this stuff complicated enough already? Well, there are some
pretty good reasons to start afresh
Am 16.08.2014 02:12, schrieb Connor Abbott:
I know what you might be thinking right now. Wait, *another* IR? Don't
we already have like 5 of those, not counting all the driver-specific
ones? Isn't this stuff complicated enough already? Well, there are some
pretty good reasons to start afresh
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Roland Scheidegger srol...@vmware.com wrote:
Am 16.08.2014 02:12, schrieb Connor Abbott:
I know what you might be thinking right now. Wait, *another* IR? Don't
we already have like 5 of those, not counting all the driver-specific
ones? Isn't this stuff
On 18/08/14 14:21, Marek Olšák wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Roland Scheidegger srol...@vmware.com wrote:
Am 16.08.2014 02:12, schrieb Connor Abbott:
I know what you might be thinking right now. Wait, *another* IR? Don't
we already have like 5 of those, not counting all the
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Roland Scheidegger srol...@vmware.com wrote:
Am 16.08.2014 02:12, schrieb Connor Abbott:
I know what you might be thinking right now. Wait, *another* IR? Don't
we already have like 5 of those, not counting all the driver-specific
ones? Isn't this stuff
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Jose Fonseca jfons...@vmware.com wrote:
On 18/08/14 14:21, Marek Olšák wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Roland Scheidegger srol...@vmware.com
wrote:
Am 16.08.2014 02:12, schrieb Connor Abbott:
I know what you might be thinking right now. Wait,
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote:
On 16.08.2014 09:12, Connor Abbott wrote:
I know what you might be thinking right now. Wait, *another* IR? Don't
we already have like 5 of those, not counting all the driver-specific
ones? Isn't this stuff complicated
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