Re: OpenBSD for a desktop environment ?

2006-02-14 Thread Thomas Riboulet
On 2/14/06, Bruno Carnazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'd like to know if someone tried to build a desktop environment on OpenBSD/i386. I think to rich desktop like Gnome or KDE. Is it hard ? What's your feedback ? Best regards, Bruno. hi all, Same here. OpenBSD stable on a

NIC's with 3DES

2006-02-14 Thread edgarz
Hello community! I want to ask about NIC's with built in 3DES support, in my situation Intel Pro 100 (Intel 82557). Is that 3DES support usable with OpenBSD + isakmpd? Thanks

Re: NIC's with 3DES

2006-02-14 Thread Dries Schellekens
edgarz wrote: I want to ask about NIC's with built in 3DES support, in my situation Intel Pro 100 (Intel 82557). Is that 3DES support usable with OpenBSD + isakmpd? No. See http://www.openbsd.org/crypto.html#hardware Idem for 3com NIC. Cheers, Dries

slow network performance

2006-02-14 Thread Joachim Mathes
Hi OpenBSD community! I built a small ethernet network with Windows and Linux boxes and an OpenBSD router which is connected to the www via dsl. The problem is that the upload speed from an intranet box to the BSD server (over scp for example) is quite ok (about 13 MBit/s) but the download

Re: xargs PF or BPF

2006-02-14 Thread Michael Schmidt
Matthias Kilian wrote: And watch out for silly file names containing whitespace. BTW: if this is a contest on creative use of find(1) and other standard tools: $ find . -type f | sed '[EMAIL PROTECTED]@grep -l -- foo @' | sh Yes, this isn't robust against whitespace, either PLUS it's

Re: xargs PF or BPF

2006-02-14 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Michael Schmidt wrote: Matthias Kilian wrote: And watch out for silly file names containing whitespace. BTW: if this is a contest on creative use of find(1) and other standard tools: $ find . -type f | sed '[EMAIL PROTECTED]@grep -l -- foo @' | sh Yes,

State of Rthreads in OpenBSD 3.9

2006-02-14 Thread unixgeek
Is the new Rthreads library functional enought 3.9 that it can be used for 'experimental' purposes? Has there been anything documented yet as to it's used? Thanks! Glenn

OT: OpenBSD on IBM/lenovo T42 or T43, Z series?

2006-02-14 Thread Subcommander l0r3zz
If anyone out there is running OpenBSD 3.8 or current with X-windows on any of the above could you let me know? I've searched the archives and the laptop pages and don't see any mention of these particular models. I'd like to make sure I can run OpenBSD before I buy.

Re: State of Rthreads in OpenBSD 3.9

2006-02-14 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the new Rthreads library functional enought 3.9 that it can be used for 'experimental' purposes? Has there been anything documented yet as to it's used? The moment it was committed it has been allright for experimenting, just do not expect all

Re: Wireless Problems (DWL-122)

2006-02-14 Thread Nick Guenther
On 2/13/06, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: then i use wicontrol to configure my wlan: Why not make it simpler? ifconfig does all this and is portable to other cards. cat /etc/hostname.wi0 EOF up nwid MyWifiName nwkey 0x0 dhcp EOF Because wi(4) is finicky. At

Re: OT: OpenBSD on IBM/lenovo T42 or T43, Z series?

2006-02-14 Thread Jan Johansson
Subcommander l0r3zz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone out there is running OpenBSD 3.8 or current with X-windows on any of the above could you let me know? I've searched the archives and the laptop pages and don't see any mention of these particular models. I'd like to make sure I can run

Re: OT: OpenBSD on IBM/lenovo T42 or T43, Z series?

2006-02-14 Thread Jan Johansson
Jan Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My findings regarding the Lenovo Z60m is on http://openbsd.org/i386-laptop.html Make that http://www.openbsd.org/i386-laptop.html (seems updates are a bit slow). Can you specify you question? If it is something special you are woundering about I am sure

Re: OT: OpenBSD on IBM/lenovo T42 or T43, Z series?

2006-02-14 Thread unixadmin99
On 14/02/06, Subcommander l0r3zz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone out there is running OpenBSD 3.8 or current with X-windows on any of the above could you let me know? I've searched the archives and the laptop pages and don't see any mention of these particular models. I'd like to make sure

Re: xargs PF or BPF

2006-02-14 Thread Ray Lai
On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 11:39:45AM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Michael Schmidt wrote: Matthias Kilian wrote: And watch out for silly file names containing whitespace. BTW: if this is a contest on creative use of find(1) and other standard tools: $

dmesg output Sun Fire 4200

2006-02-14 Thread Paul de Weerd
Hi all, For those interested here's a copy of the dmesg output on a Sun Fire 4200 system. More info (`sysctl hw; openssl speed; sysctl hw` output for the temperature difference is also included for example ;) is available at http://www.weirdnet.nl/openbsd/hardware/sunfire4200/ NB: The SAS

Re: xargs PF or BPF

2006-02-14 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Ray Lai wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 11:39:45AM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Michael Schmidt wrote: Matthias Kilian wrote: And watch out for silly file names containing whitespace. BTW: if this is a contest on creative use of

Re: Wireless Ethernet cards ?

2006-02-14 Thread uv negativa
Hi and thanks I need pci card becuase i need install antena 7dbi o more, if anybody has tried pci card (d-link, linsys, qcomp or trendnet: support antenna), could you please tell us? thanks On 2/13/06, Bruno Carnazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've just built my home Wifi AP with

Re: slow network performance

2006-02-14 Thread Sebastian Schmitzdorff
Hi, if I understand you correctly your testing consists of up and downloads on your openbsd router. This is not the proper way to test network performance on a router. I recommend using tools that dont involve any i/o operations such as netperf etc. According to your dmesg I wouldn't be

Re: OpenBSD for a desktop environment ?

2006-02-14 Thread Ramiro Aceves
On 2/14/06, Bruno Carnazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'd like to know if someone tried to build a desktop environment on OpenBSD/i386. I think to rich desktop like Gnome or KDE. Is it hard ? What's your feedback ? Bruno. I think that the best thing you can do is to try and see

Re: Interface ranges in pf.conf (i.e. tun[0-10])

2006-02-14 Thread Henning Brauer
* Tobias Ulmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-02-14 04:37]: I don't know if this works with regular rules, but there is a recent post from Ray Lai where he points out that it's possible to use just interface instead of interface[0-n] [1]. I didn't find this documented in pf.conf(5), but maybe I

Re: OpenBSD for a desktop environment ?

2006-02-14 Thread Obi Okeke
Hi Bruno, I use OpenBSD 3.8 as my work desktop and it is extremely smooth and a terrific experience. I'd used Linux and then FreeBSD for years, but setting up X was the easiest ever and I have not had a single glitch of any sort yet (that wasn't due to my own ignorance). I run Fluxbox on my 3 yr

Re: OpenBSD 3.9-beta : pf_test: pf_get_mtag returned NULL

2006-02-14 Thread Henning Brauer
* Bruno Carnazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-02-14 06:13]: Hi all, I've tried an OpenBSD/i386 3.9-beta snapshots 2 weeks ago. It worked perfectly until now that I have build an AP with it, with an Nintendo USB connector. 2 times, pf died and vomit continuously things like : Feb 11 21:31:30

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-14 Thread Diana Eichert
I was thinking there should have been something in the commit message about Dave contributing to this fix. The entire xargs discussion wouldn't have occurred if I hadn't used find in my reply to Dave regarding PF or BPF. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-cvsm=113991945111836w=2 Log

Re: OpenBSD for a desktop environment ?

2006-02-14 Thread Dennis Davis
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Andreas Bihlmaier wrote: From: Andreas Bihlmaier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: misc@openbsd.org Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 07:14:10 +0100 Subject: Re: OpenBSD for a desktop environment ? ... Only think to remember is the lack of OpenOffice in (native) OpenBSD. Sure there is

Re: OpenBSD for a desktop environment ?

2006-02-14 Thread Michael Erdely
On 2/14/06, Bruno Carnazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to know if someone tried to build a desktop environment on OpenBSD/i386. I think to rich desktop like Gnome or KDE. Is it hard ? What's your feedback ? I'm using amd64 on a Compaq Presario SR1720NX. X -configure worked great to set

Re: OpenBSD for a desktop environment ?

2006-02-14 Thread Bruno Costa
Hello Bruno, my old intel-466 machine is running OBSD for a while. Before I tried the first time, I was afraid about the complexities involved in the task of making OBSD a desktop environment. but when you have time to learn, everything becomes easier. it's now working smoothly for me with

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-14 Thread Miod Vallat
I was thinking there should have been something in the commit message about Dave contributing to this fix. The entire xargs discussion wouldn't have occurred if I hadn't used find in my reply to Dave regarding PF or BPF. Something like ``please do not feed the Feustel again''? Miod

Re: Could someone, running latest snapshots confirm this problem

2006-02-14 Thread Didier Wiroth
Hi, I'm running current (built yesterday) on another i386 laptop with an Xorg 6.9 build (from 19 January) where the maps fr_CH, de_CH etc all work without problem. There must have been some related keyboard map file changes since that day in the x sources. Are there any X gurus around that have

Re: OpenBSD for a desktop environment ?

2006-02-14 Thread Ramiro Aceves
There was some discussion about this on the list some time ago. Apparently the Linux version works OK in compatability mode. I installed this version on my i386 OpenBSD machine. I haven't used it -- other than to verify soffice fires up -- so I can't say how well it works. Yes, that was

Re: OpenBGPD : Lost child: route decision engine exited

2006-02-14 Thread Henning Brauer
that smells like a bad bug. I'll look into that asap. * Xavier Beaudouin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-02-14 11:26]: Hi there, I have in the two last snapshot (9/02 and 12/02) are exiting very frequently with this error messages : Feb 14 06:36:17 core-vel-1 bgpd[9573]: nexthop 85.xxx.xxx.1

Re: Could someone, running latest snapshots confirm this problem

2006-02-14 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Didier Wiroth wrote: Hi, I'm running current (built yesterday) on another i386 laptop with an Xorg 6.9 build (from 19 January) where the maps fr_CH, de_CH etc all work without problem. There must have been some related keyboard map file changes since that day in the

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-14 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Diana Eichert wrote: I was thinking there should have been something in the commit message about Dave contributing to this fix. The entire xargs discussion wouldn't have occurred if I hadn't used find in my reply to Dave regarding PF or BPF.

Crash after halt -p (i386, current of feb. 5th)

2006-02-14 Thread Oliver J. Morais
Little @home-server, Mainboard is a Gigabyte GA-5AX F3, Bios is AWARD Version 4.51PG (Everything set to default.) Perfect box until you try to do a halt -p ;-) Below see ps and trace from ddb and dmesg. # halt -p /etc/rc.shutdown in progress... /etc/rc.shutdown complete. syncing disks... done

New dell server

2006-02-14 Thread Gaby vanhegan
Hi, I'm considering getting a Dell PowerEdge SC1420 SATA. We need a small, cheap server for hosting some websites and email. A dual PIII-733 generic server isn't cutting the mustard any more so it looks like it's time to spend money. Has anybody managed to get the CERC SATA raid

Re: OpenBSD for a desktop environment ?

2006-02-14 Thread dreamwvr
On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 07:13:47PM +0100, Ramiro Aceves wrote: There was some discussion about this on the list some time ago. Apparently the Linux version works OK in compatability mode. I installed this version on my i386 OpenBSD machine. I haven't used it -- other than to verify

Re: New dell server

2006-02-14 Thread Brandon Mercer
Gaby vanhegan wrote: Hi, I'm considering getting a Dell PowerEdge SC1420 SATA. We need a small, cheap server for hosting some websites and email. A dual PIII-733 generic server isn't cutting the mustard any more so it looks like it's time to spend money. Has anybody managed to get the

Re: New dell server

2006-02-14 Thread Gaby vanhegan
On 14 Feb 2006, at 20:18, Brandon Mercer wrote: Has anybody managed to get the CERC SATA raid controller running on 3.8 or 3.9-stable? Alternatively, where's the cheapest source of LSI SATA cards? Can I boot from a system installed on an LSI card? LSI cards, as has been talked to

Re: New dell server

2006-02-14 Thread Wade, Daniel
We just got a few of those at work, unfortunately they are now Windows servers. The CERC RAID card is an Adaptec and not supported. Here is a dmesg booted from the on board sata. OpenBSD 3.9-beta (GENERIC.MP) #578: Mon Jan 30 12:24:35 MST 2006 [EMAIL

Re: Best Dual AMD Opteron Motherboard for OpenBSD Found??

2006-02-14 Thread Levi Patrick II
Hello, What does anyone think about this M/B or recommendations for others? I have found one recommendation on BSDForums.org for this dual AMD Opteron M/B: tomek11-16-2004, 05:17 PM I newer use this motherboard but it looks reasonably. TYAN Thunder K8SR (S2881G2NR) AMD-8131 Chipset Server

SIZE vs. RES in top(1) output

2006-02-14 Thread Paul de Weerd
All, I'm a bit confused on the difference between SIZE and RES in the output of top(1) (the same goes for VSZ vs RSS in ps(1) output). The manpage says : SIZEThe total size of the process (the text, data, and stack segments). RES The current amount of resident memory. Reading

Re: PCI-X not seen by 3.8 on HP DL-145 G2

2006-02-14 Thread Bill Marquette
On 1/13/06, Bill Marquette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/11/06, Bill Marquette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/9/05, Srebrenko Sehic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ciss driver works fine (no idea about speeds at this time, more on that in a second). The onboard broadcom nics do show up, but

CARP+pf+pfsync redundant firewalls running active/active doable?

2006-02-14 Thread Jason Stubbs
Hi, I'm looking to set up redundant firewalls in pretty much the same way as is detailed in the PF FAQ. For discussion purposes, I've reproduced the basic network layout below. +| WAN/Internet |+ || em2||em2

Feb 13 X snapshot

2006-02-14 Thread Emilio Perea
Installing the latest (Feb 13) i386 x*tgz on two different computers caused the keyboard to lock up. Mouse continued to work, but I was not able to type anything or switch consoles. The systems involved were a Dell Precision 330 workstation (upgrade) and a Toshiba 3480CT laptop (new install to

OpenSparc T1

2006-02-14 Thread Daniel Ouellet
No punch intended to anyone at all, but I was just curious about the new Sun T1 processor and initiative. They release today their spec and documentations on the Internet: http://opensparc.sunsource.net/nonav/opensparct1.html Is this is the type of documentations that OpenBSD is requesting

Re: Feb 13 X snapshot

2006-02-14 Thread Michael Erdely
On 2/14/06, Emilio Perea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Installing the latest (Feb 13) i386 x*tgz on two different computers caused the keyboard to lock up. Mouse continued to work, but I was not Going back to the Feb 4 snapshot restored full functionality. It seems extremely unlikely that this

Re: OpenSparc T1

2006-02-14 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 12:04:12AM -0500, Daniel Ouellet wrote: No punch intended to anyone at all, but I was just curious about the new Sun T1 processor and initiative. They release today their spec and documentations on the Internet: http://opensparc.sunsource.net/nonav/opensparct1.html

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-14 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Tony Sterrett wrote: I'm not sure I'd do it in that way. I'm thinking if BPF provided stateful inspection is would be more useful. Asking for stateful inspection in bpf(4) is like wanting a carburettor for a pushbike. You might be able to shoehorn it in there,

Re: SIZE vs. RES in top(1) output

2006-02-14 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006, Paul de Weerd wrote: All, I'm a bit confused on the difference between SIZE and RES in the output of top(1) (the same goes for VSZ vs RSS in ps(1) output). The manpage says : SIZE The total size of the process (the text, data, and stack segments). RES

Re: Interface ranges in pf.conf (i.e. tun[0-10])

2006-02-14 Thread Travers Buda
I did it a way that is not directly documented, and not shown in any examples. Kinda had to guess. =( Anyways, here it is: inone = fxp0 intwo = fxp1 inthree = fxp2 infour = xl0 infive = xl1 insix = xl2 all_ifs = { $inone $intwo $inthree $infour $infive $insix } On Monday 13 February 2006