Re: Looking for Secure Architectures with OpenBSD pdf.

2009-12-10 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
I'm almost certain this one turned up as a relevant title in one of my safaribooks.com searches recently, so it's conceivable you could download or piece together a PDF from there. Other than that, well, even though the paper version has been out a while I don't think any freely redistributable

DRI not loading on ATI Radeon Mobility 7500/M7 (4.6-RELEASE)

2009-12-10 Thread Anders Langworthy
According to radeon(4), my ATI Radeon Mobility 7500/M7 is supported by the driver but as far as I can tell DRI is not loading properly when I start X. X seems to work well enough besides 3D performance, which is dreadful. An incriminating bit seems to be here: ... (II) RADEON(0): initializing

pf and fragmented IPv6 packets

2009-12-10 Thread Jonas Thambert
Like a month ago we got a complain from a user that our website was unreachable over IPv6. We have 2x Native Ipv6 transits. The user had bought IPv6 from an ISP thay uses tunneling to deliver it to the organization. After some packet traces we found out that the problem was in PF and that it

Re: DRI not loading on ATI Radeon Mobility 7500/M7 (4.6-RELEASE)

2009-12-10 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 03:36:09AM -0500, Anders Langworthy wrote: According to radeon(4), my ATI Radeon Mobility 7500/M7 is supported by the driver but as far as I can tell DRI is not loading properly when I start X. X seems to work well enough besides 3D performance, which is dreadful. An

Re: ComixWall terminated

2009-12-10 Thread Artur Grabowski
Soner Tari so...@comixwall.org writes: Due to unexpected reaction from the leader of the OpenBSD project (please read below), I am terminating the ComixWall project. Do you cut yourself when somebody yells at you just to show them? I will feel stupid continuing with this project while I am

Re: pf and fragmented IPv6 packets

2009-12-10 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:39:33 +0100, Jonas Thambert wrote: Like a month ago we got a complain from a user that our website was unreachable over IPv6. We have 2x Native Ipv6 transits. The user had bought IPv6 from an ISP thay uses tunneling to deliver it to the organization. After some packet

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Re: pf and fragmented IPv6 packets

2009-12-10 Thread Jonas Thambert
Thanks Rod for your input. We use pf as a firewall, and when we get the users IPv6 packets they are already fragmented. Native IPv6 and Terredo tunnels does not get fragmented on the way to us. I will read up on your links ;) // Jonas I have an IPv6 over IPv4 connection. I once had two, one

Re: [OT] linker holes (was: SMP)

2009-12-10 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 07:18:33PM -0500, nixlists wrote: On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: We have all this multicore hardware that doesn't get taken advantage of by [OpenBSD], (...) but the security and simplicity trade-offs may be worth it

Re: PF: Help with a very simple bandwidth capping using hfsc

2009-12-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-12-09, Bryan S. Leaman lea...@bitbytes.com wrote: Andres Salazar wrote: Thank you for your suggestions.. however in this particular case I still can download at 615Kbytes/sec .. at least now I can download at a lesser rate with the following: altq on $t_externa bandwidth 200Kb hfsc

Re: pf and fragmented IPv6 packets

2009-12-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2009-12-10, Jonas Thambert jonas.thamb...@sitic.se wrote: Like a month ago we got a complain from a user that our website was unreachable over IPv6. We have 2x Native Ipv6 transits. The user had bought IPv6 from an ISP thay uses tunneling to deliver it to the organization. After some packet

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Re: ComixWall terminated

2009-12-10 Thread Michal
So what...someone was wrong, someone's train of thought was wrong...so what? Someone posts something and it's the wrong place...ok, say this isn't the place and move on. If this person though they where helping and people think they are not...well they have a different opinion but really they

Re: Looking for Secure Architectures with OpenBSD pdf.

2009-12-10 Thread jackwssp q
2 Tomas Bodzar: Why you so ugly? I don't looking for pf manual. As you can see above, i'm not alone. When i got it, will share it for all on misc@, and you may furiously try to stop me.

Re: Looking for Secure Architectures with OpenBSD pdf.

2009-12-10 Thread Bret Lambert
Awesome; another aggravating, whiny, entitled jackass. You'll fit right in on the internet; the kool-aid's to the left. On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:47 PM, jackwssp q jackw...@gmail.com wrote: 2 Tomas Bodzar: Why you so ugly? I don't looking for pf manual. As you can see above, i'm not alone.

Re: Looking for Secure Architectures with OpenBSD pdf.

2009-12-10 Thread Nick Guenther
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:47 AM, jackwssp q jackw...@gmail.com wrote: 2 Tomas Bodzar: Why you so ugly? I don't looking for pf manual. As you can see above, i'm not alone. When i got it, will share it for all on misc@, and you may furiously try to stop me. Truly we have the markings of a

Re: Looking for Secure Architectures with OpenBSD pdf.

2009-12-10 Thread Tomas Bodzar
http://www.openbsd.org/books.html#book3 http://catalog.ebay.com/Secure-Architectures-OpenBSD-Brandon-Palmer-Jose-Nazario-2004-Paperback-/30245400?_fifpts=1_pcatid=4_refkw=Secure+Architectures+with+OpenBSD_trksid=p3286.c0.m505 This is not Linux. If you want to steal something then do it by your

Re: Looking for Secure Architectures with OpenBSD pdf.

2009-12-10 Thread Gilles Chehade
Nick Guenther a icrit : On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:47 AM, jackwssp q jackw...@gmail.com wrote: 2 Tomas Bodzar: Why you so ugly? I don't looking for pf manual. As you can see above, i'm not alone. When i got it, will share it for all on misc@, and you may furiously try to stop me.

Re: DRI not loading on ATI Radeon Mobility 7500/M7 (4.6-RELEASE)

2009-12-10 Thread Anders Langworthy
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Tobias Ulmer tobi...@tmux.org wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 03:36:09AM -0500, Anders Langworthy wrote: According to radeon(4), my ATI Radeon Mobility 7500/M7 is supported by the driver but as far as I can tell DRI is not loading properly when I start X. B X

Re: DRI not loading on ATI Radeon Mobility 7500/M7 (4.6-RELEASE)

2009-12-10 Thread Owain Ainsworth
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 09:47:03AM -0500, Anders Langworthy wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Tobias Ulmer tobi...@tmux.org wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 03:36:09AM -0500, Anders Langworthy wrote: According to radeon(4), my ATI Radeon Mobility 7500/M7 is supported by the driver but

Re: softraid not building on boot

2009-12-10 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:39:29AM -0500, nixlists wrote: On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: What happens if the written data is not the same for some reason (and what's the likelihood of this happening)? How does the OS and fsck behave in this case?

Re: ComixWall terminated

2009-12-10 Thread spamtester spamtester
Seriously, theo wtf ? Here is a packaged version of openbsd which doesn't ask for donations providing something which users clearly want. if you can't see that users come in many shapes and forms you are seriously *wrong*. I for one would suggest that comixwall moves to freebsd, due to hypocrisy

Re: ComixWall terminated

2009-12-10 Thread FRLinux
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:19 PM, spamtester spamtester spamtesterspamtes...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously, theo wtf ? Openbsd slow masterbating monkies, Always late to the security party (how many years late for PIE ? etc.) nice troll

Re: DRI not loading on ATI Radeon Mobility 7500/M7 (4.6-RELEASE)

2009-12-10 Thread Anders Langworthy
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Owain Ainsworth zer...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 09:47:03AM -0500, Anders Langworthy wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Tobias Ulmer tobi...@tmux.org wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 03:36:09AM -0500, Anders Langworthy wrote: (II)

Re: ComixWall terminated

2009-12-10 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:21:34PM +, Michal wrote: So what...someone was wrong what was wrong here was Soner Tari posting private emails to a public mailing lists. -- jake...@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org

Re: pf and fragmented IPv6 packets

2009-12-10 Thread Todd T. Fries
Penned by Jonas Thambert on 20091210 9:39.33, we have: | Like a month ago we got a complain from a user that our website | was unreachable over IPv6. We have 2x Native Ipv6 transits. The user | had bought IPv6 from an ISP thay uses tunneling to deliver it | to the organization. After some packet

Re: DRI not loading on ATI Radeon Mobility 7500/M7 (4.6-RELEASE)

2009-12-10 Thread Owain Ainsworth
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:20:44AM -0500, Anders Langworthy wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Owain Ainsworth zer...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 09:47:03AM -0500, Anders Langworthy wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Tobias Ulmer tobi...@tmux.org wrote: On

Re: ComixWall terminated

2009-12-10 Thread Brad Tilley
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:19 AM, spamtester spamtester spamtesterspamtes...@gmail.com wrote: if you can't see that users come in many shapes and forms you are seriously *wrong*. --- I think the point is that while users are very different, we should learn how things happen here and respect

Re: Looking for Secure Architectures with OpenBSD pdf.

2009-12-10 Thread FRLinux
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.openbsd.org/books.html#book3 Thanks for that, was unaware of that book. Just ordered my copy now :) Steph

Re: Looking for Secure Architectures with OpenBSD pdf.

2009-12-10 Thread Henry Sieff
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:44 AM, FRLinux frli...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.openbsd.org/books.html#book3 Thanks for that, was unaware of that book. Just ordered my copy now :) Not sure about the other authors, but I

Re: Looking for Secure Architectures with OpenBSD pdf.

2009-12-10 Thread Todd T. Fries
Penned by Henry Sieff on 20091210 12:24.37, we have: | On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:44 AM, FRLinux frli...@gmail.com wrote: | On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote: | http://www.openbsd.org/books.html#book3 | | Thanks for that, was unaware of that book. Just

Re: Installation freeze after rd0 fixed 3800 blocks

2009-12-10 Thread Jimmi
Citando Jimmi ji...@libero.it: Hi everybody, Ok, the workaround I found was, at boot: boot -c ukc disable acpi ukc quit Thanks :) -- Jimmi

ioctl error

2009-12-10 Thread Ismail OZATAY
Hi all , Today my openbsd server started to send some errors to syslog that i could not find anything about this error. symon: if(mtd0) failed (ioctl error) what does it mean ? Regards ismail

Re: Looking for Secure Architectures with OpenBSD pdf.

2009-12-10 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
jackwssp q jackw...@gmail.com writes: As you can see above, i'm not alone. When i got it, will share it for all on misc@, and you may furiously try to stop me. I take it your ccing me on that message means you think I was looking for a copy too. In fact I bought one when the book was

Re: softraid not building on boot

2009-12-10 Thread nixlists
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: So softraid can't detect if the data is written differently to the drives? In what sort of cases would one expect the mirror to become corrupt? Kernel crash? Hardware crash? Does softraid detect this? What failures

Re: TiVo + ATT/squid + web caching issue.

2009-12-10 Thread Christopher Hilton
On Dec 1, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Joachim Schipper wrote: On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 12:07:02PM -0500, Christopher Hilton wrote: I'm having a problem running a TiVo for my mother-in-law. To save some money she changed her ISP to ATT. The issue is that ATT is running some sort of transparent web cache

Re: ioctl error

2009-12-10 Thread Fred Crowson
On 12/10/09, Ismail OZATAY ism...@ismailozatay.net wrote: Hi all , Today my openbsd server started to send some errors to syslog that i could not find anything about this error. symon: if(mtd0) failed (ioctl error) what does it mean ? Regards ismail

Re: softraid not building on boot

2009-12-10 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 03:21:46PM -0500, nixlists wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: So softraid can't detect if the data is written differently to the drives? In what sort of cases would one expect the mirror to become corrupt? Kernel crash?

Re: Looking for Secure Architectures with OpenBSD pdf.

2009-12-10 Thread FRLinux
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Todd T. Fries t...@fries.net wrote: I'd say at least 90% of the book is still relevent, but thats an arguably biased guess.. Yes, did notice the book was a few years back but the content seems unlikely to be deprecated that fast. I do own books about PF listed

Re: SMP

2009-12-10 Thread nixlists
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Daniel Gracia Garallar danie...@electronicagracia.com wrote: It is true, and AFAIK, todays it's a topper nice task... almost 20. Regards, Dani Donald Allen escribis: IMHO I hope OpenBSD doesn't use locks at all in the future taking FreeBSD's lesson, but

Re: asynchronous I/O

2009-12-10 Thread Geoff
Long ago I worked in the kernel of a BSD which supported async (disk) I/O. The internals did use a kernel thread for queueing and reporting. There was one per process using AIO because it made life simpler: each page which was mentioned in AIO had to be pinned, and blaming that on the AIO

Re: softraid not building on boot

2009-12-10 Thread nixlists
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: So in what cases does softraid degrade the mirror then, other than pulling the disk out? When an I/O fails. How is hardware mirror raid different? It isn't. Thanks. Does this mean there's little advantage of

Re: power button suspends netbook instead of shutdown

2009-12-10 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 04:23:20AM +0100, Robert said that Closing the lid on a running notebook is a bad idea, because a lot of heat will be capture under the closed screen that would be otherwise transfered through the keyboard. yes, that is true. but, 1) my notebook so far didn't

Re: power button suspends netbook instead of shutdown

2009-12-10 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 04:23:20AM +0100, Robert said that Btw, to shutdown just type: 'sudo halt -p' that will even work with generic. i wish i could agree with this, but my netbook's proper shutdown and reboot ratio is more like 50%. (and that includes -stable as well) ctrl+alt+esc boot

Re: softraid not building on boot

2009-12-10 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 05:00:34PM -0500, nixlists wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: So in what cases does softraid degrade the mirror then, other than pulling the disk out? When an I/O fails. How is hardware mirror raid different?

Re: softraid not building on boot

2009-12-10 Thread nixlists
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: Does this mean there's little advantage of hardware mirror raid over software? So software mirror raid increases chances of data corruption while decreasing the chances of downtime. True for hardware as well? There are

Re: softraid not building on boot

2009-12-10 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 06:17:24PM -0500, nixlists wrote: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: Does this mean there's little advantage of hardware mirror raid over software? So software mirror raid increases chances of data corruption while decreasing

Re: softraid not building on boot

2009-12-10 Thread nixlists
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: probably a crappy card or disks. 3ware Escalade 8006-2LP :(. I know - not well supported because 3ware are the M$ of RAID.

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Used of dd for mirroring of quick disk replacement across servers, and second question for bigger drives?

2009-12-10 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Hi, I am pretty sure this is not possible at all, but again, may be something else is available that I haven't found/think yet. Two questions I have. 1. use of dd across servers. 2. use dd or the like to increase disk size with same content in the end. == 1. I am trying to

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Favorite 2 or 4-port GigE NIC for i386/AMD64 OpenBSD 4.6?

2009-12-10 Thread Ryan Russell
I was recently bit by some reliability problems with a late-model Quad GigE Intel NIC, and I'm looking for a replacement. (Details below if you're interested in the problems.) So I'm looking for a gigabit Ethernet NIC that has good OpenBSD compatibility and model stability. Do you have a

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Re: ATI Radeon Xpress 200 USB

2009-12-10 Thread Tom Hayko
Just FYI, I worked around this problem by purchasing an NEC based PCI USB card. Everything worked fine once I plugged everything into the card instead of the motherboard USB ports. Unfortunately, I don't have the time or ability to try to fix whatever is wrong myself, but I do volunteer to

Re: Used of dd for mirroring of quick disk replacement across servers, and second question for bigger drives?

2009-12-10 Thread nixlists
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Daniel Ouellet dan...@presscom.net wrote: Hi, I am pretty sure this is not possible at all, but again, may be something else is available that I haven't found/think yet. Two questions I have. 1. use of dd across servers.

Re: No RTF_UP after route change to an interface that is up

2009-12-10 Thread Doran Mori
I finished the patch dealing with both RTF_UP and RTP_DOWN. I've tested as best as I could. I'm not currently using ECMP but I don't think anything I've touched would have changed how that works. Forgive me if I'm not going about things the right way. This is my first attempt at hacking on the

Re: Looking for Secure Architectures with OpenBSD pdf.

2009-12-10 Thread SJP Lists
2009/12/11 jackwssp q jackw...@gmail.com: 2 Tomas Bodzar: Why you so ugly? I don't looking for pf manual. As you can see above, i'm not alone. When i got it, will share it for all on misc@, and you may furiously try to stop me. Funny. When you need help beyond the books and come here for it,

Re: Used of dd for mirroring of quick disk replacement across servers, and second question for bigger disks

2009-12-10 Thread Ed Ahlsen-Girard
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Daniel Ouellet dan...@presscom.net wrote: Hi, I am pretty sure this is not possible at all, but again, may be something else is available that I haven't found/think yet. Two questions I have. (snip) 2. The second question again relate to this is I also

Re: ioctl error

2009-12-10 Thread Ismail OZATAY
Fred Crowson yazmış: On 12/10/09, Ismail OZATAY ism...@ismailozatay.net wrote: Hi all , Today my openbsd server started to send some errors to syslog that i could not find anything about this error. symon: if(mtd0) failed (ioctl error) what does it

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